Louisiana's best pool player.

John:

I'm not overreacting, but I do want your "distillation" to be correct. Nobody likes their message being massaged into something else, because of e.g. some agenda. Why do you keep bringing "ghost ball" into this? Geno's product is a head/eye alignment system, not an aiming system. It can be used with whatever aiming system you prefer -- whether that be pivot-based aiming systems (CTE, Pro-1, et al.), CP-to-CP, back-of-ball, ghost ball, or whatever.

Phrases such as "aiming system," "ghost ball," etc. have nothing to do with this thread, and, IMHO, shouldn't be "distilled" into your summary.

I know you are very adamant about people understanding your message. May you please return the favor?
-Sean

Sean,
Gene Albrechts PERFECT AIM may be able to be used in conjunction with other aiming systems. I hadn't given that much thought.

But I have to think that PERFECT AIM is all that Gene uses to aim and while you can call it a method, a technique, or anything else, the bottom line remains that this is a systematic method that Gene uses for aiming and I'm sure he calls it an aiming system and I'm sure that Jamie Farrell calls it an aiming system.

I think for the vast majority of pool players, call the manner in which they aim, their aiming system. Are you saying the term "aiming system" as most people know it should be broken down further into other categories?

Thanks,
 
You may not be interested in knowing how professional players aim but there's a very large group of people on this forum who are interested in knowing how top pool players aim. The link is there for those who are interested in knowing more about Perfect Aim.

This thread uses testimonial marketing to present information about how wonderful a product is, which is fine by itself. But the minute the OP adds a link on where to buy it, it immediately becomes advertising a product for sale.

The following definition of "shill" could also be applied here: "A person engaged in covert advertising. The shill attempts to spread buzz by personally endorsing the product in public forums with the pretense of sincerity...."

Just my opinion, of course.
 
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Why do you find it necessary to sow discontent wherever you go??? What thrill do you get out of it??? Joey is not being paid anything for what he said, and Gene is giving it away for free, or just the cost of a phone call. So, what you say is total B.S.

Just when are YOU going to add anything of value to this forum?? All you do on here is complain about those you don't like. Get over it, or please quit posting. Your type isn't wanted on here. Many of us go here to learn something or teach something about pool. We don't need or want those that never add anything but complaints that are founded in nothing more than your insecurities.

PoolSharkAllen is a troll and nothing more.

PoolSharkAllen does not add anything of value to this forum. He reminds me of another worthless poster that was banned for very similar posting style.

I'm glad that others see the nuisance that he is becoming.
 
Gene was doing nothing more than earnestly trying to help others play better pool. He is giving away his info for the price of a phone call. Here we have someone that truly wants to help others, goes out of his way to do so, and then we get people like you that can't stand the fact that someone else is so willing to help others, and you feel you have to complain about him helping because you won't do a thing to help others.

Neil,
I modified my earlier post as I did not mean to imply that Joey is being paid for his services. There's no question that the OP is engaging in shilling, advertising, marketing. Call it whatever you want -- it's certainly exploiting a gray area in the forum rules.

In post #1, Joey wrote the following piece of BS:
"I was thinking about all of the naysayers and how they deserve to eat crow for the next seven years, considering they gave the originator of this aiming system s**t and almost drove this great pool player from our midst.
Sometimes a few people can have a debilitating effect on this forum because they are bold enough and brash enough and cold-hearted enough to try and censor what they don't agree with. Well the naysayers were WRONG about Gene Albrecht and Perfect Aim. The best pool player in Louisiana says Perfect Aim is AWESOME and one of the best pool players in the world (Rodney Morris) says Gene Albrecht's Perfect Aim is something that has been missing from his game and that Perfect Aim has cut his practice time in half. This is a lesson in humility for the naysayers and they should be ashamed of themselves. In fact, I think they owe Gene an apology and will look forward to hearing their "genuine" apology."

If Joey truly wants to improve the discussion of aiming systems, a good start would be to remove this BS from his original posting. Stop making these inflammatory comments and the discussion will become much more civil.
 
Sean,
Gene Albrechts PERFECT AIM may be able to be used in conjunction with other aiming systems. I hadn't given that much thought.

But I have to think that PERFECT AIM is all that Gene uses to aim and while you can call it a method, a technique, or anything else, the bottom line remains that this is a systematic method that Gene uses for aiming and I'm sure he calls it an aiming system and I'm sure that Jamie Farrell calls it an aiming system.

I think for the vast majority of pool players, call the manner in which they aim, their aiming system. Are you saying the term "aiming system" as most people know it should be broken down further into other categories?

Thanks,

Hi Joey!

Thank you for the respectful and civil response. I'm onsite at a customer site at the moment, on a quick break, but let me see if I can quickly answer your question before I have to go back into the freezing data center.

I have the first version/incarnation of Gene's Perfect Aim DVD -- in fact, it just a former blank DVD that has his handwriting with a Sharpie marker on it saying "Perfect Aim" and his full name.

From the beginning in the DVD, it's obvious that what he's proposing (and he even states this in the DVD), the product is more about aligning your head and your eyes so that you can see the edges of the balls better, how those edges align with each other, and thus (and finally) the shot line. He doesn't go into how to get your *cue* onto that shot line, and that's left up to your "aiming system" of choice. I seem to recall that Gene even mentioned on the DVD that, after that point, it's up to you how you resolve the relationship of the balls for aiming purposes. It's been a while since I viewed the DVD (the topics he covered were already familiar to me, via my snooker background), but it was obviously just a technique to get proper sighting alignment, not actually how to get your cue on the shot line.

Do I think the name "Perfect Aim" may be a misnomer? Possibly. Is Geno's technique essential for sighting the shot line correctly, no matter what "aiming system" you use to get your cue on, and delivered over, the shot line? Absolutely.

Do I think "aiming system" should be broken down into further categories? No, I think that's pedantic. IMHO, Geno's product falls more in line with fundamentals (body, head, and eye alignment *are* part of fundamentals, after all), than it does into the "aiming system" category -- the latter of which only resolves the relationships of the balls to each other to determine how you deliver your cue.

I hope that helps!
-Sean
 
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Hi Joey!

Thank you for the respectful and civil response. I'm onsite at a customer site at the moment, on a quick break, but let me see if I can quickly answer your question before I have to go back into the freezing data center.

I have the first version/incarnation of Gene's Perfect Aim DVD -- in fact, it just a former blank DVD that has his handwriting with a Sharpie marker on it saying "Perfect Aim" and his full name.

From the beginning in the DVD, it's obvious that what he's proposing (and he even states this in the DVD), the product is more about aligning your head and your eyes so that you can see the edges of the balls better, how those edges align with each other, and thus (and finally) the shot line. He doesn't go into how to get your *cue* onto that shot line, and that's left up to your "aiming system" of choice. I seem to recall that Gene even mentioned on the DVD that, after that point, it's up to you how you resolve the relationship of the balls for aiming purposes. It's been a while since I viewed the DVD (the topics he covered were already familiar to me, via my snooker background), but it was obviously just a technique to get proper sighting alignment, not actually how to get your cue on the shot line.

Do I think the name "Perfect Aim" may be a misnomer? Possibly. Is Geno's technique essential for sighting the shot line correctly, no matter what "aiming system" you use to get your cue on, and delivered over, the shot line? Absolutely.

Do I think "aiming system" should be broken down into further categories? No, I think that's pedantic. IMHO, Geno's product falls more in line with fundamentals (body, head, and eye alignment *are* part of fundamentals, after all), than it does into the "aiming system" category -- the latter of which only resolves the relationships of the balls to each other to determine how you deliver your cue.

I hope that helps!
-Sean

OK, I see where you are coming from. In the future, please don't take any time away from your job to answer any of my posts. I can wait for your lunch break. :D

Thanks!
 
OK, I see where you are coming from. In the future, please don't take any time away from your job to answer any of my posts. I can wait for your lunch break. :D

Thanks!

Thanks Joey! It's now lunch time! :D

-Sean
 
Gene was doing nothing more than earnestly trying to help others play better pool. He is giving away his info for the price of a phone call. Here we have someone that truly wants to help others, goes out of his way to do so, and then we get people like you that can't stand the fact that someone else is so willing to help others, and you feel you have to complain about him helping because you won't do a thing to help others. Get over yourself, and leave it alone. I'll take 100 Gene's over one of you or PoolSharkAllen anyday.

Get over myself?? Leave it alone? JoeyA invited this discussion by making this topic. If he makes an attack, it shouldn't go undefended.

Also, my reference about Gene was referring to before he toned down the advertising, which, nearly everyone in this thread admits was quite shameless and over the top. He has since gotten better and indeed is a productive poster on this forum. I actually think he is a good guy, just was not accustomed to online forum etiquette when he first arrived here and thought he could just exploit it freely without recourse. I think he has learned his lesson.

Also, where did you see me complaining about Gene helping people? I certainly don't remember posting anything of the sort. I think you need to get over yourself and realize that not everyone is out to persecute aiming systems. I, in fact, like aiming systems and use several depending on the shot, but when people are out of line, be it in life or on internet forums, I will not hesitate to point it out to them.

PS. thanks for the red rep, I'll consider it a spiteful concession due to the inability to actually refute anything I said.
 
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Get over myself?? Leave it alone? JoeyA invited this discussion by making this topic. If he makes an attack, it shouldn't go undefended.

Also, my reference about Gene was referring to before he toned down the advertising, which, nearly everyone in this thread admits was quite shameless and over the top. He has since gotten better and indeed is a productive poster on this forum. I actually think he is a good guy, just was not accustomed to online forum etiquette when he first arrived here and thought he could just exploit it freely without recourse. I think he has learned his lesson.

Also, where did you see me complaining about Gene helping people? I certainly don't remember posting anything of the sort. I think you need to get over yourself and realize that not everyone is out to persecute aiming systems. I, in fact, like aiming systems and use several depending on the shot, but when people are out of line, be it in life or on internet forums, I will not hesitate to point it out to them.

PS. thanks for the red rep, I'll consider it a spiteful concession due to the inability to actually refute anything I said.

Neil's right about you too. "If he makes an attack, it shouldn't go undefended". :D:D:D You and PoolSharkAllen are quite the duo. I guess there will always be people like you and PSA on this forum.

P.S. Worry about your own house cleaning. :wink:
 
If Dr. Dave's Video Encyclopedia of Pool Practice (VEPPS) thread can be moved to the For Sale forum, then it appears to me that this Perfect Aim thread should also be moved to the For Sale forum for the exact same reasons.

Post #1 combined with post #8 is clearly a covert attempt to advertise a product for sale, i.e., shilling.
 
If Dr. Dave's Video Encyclopedia of Pool Practice (VEPPS) thread can be moved to the For Sale forum, then it appears to me that this Perfect Aim thread should also be moved to the For Sale forum for the exact same reasons.

Post #1 combined with post #8 is clearly a covert attempt to advertise a product for sale, i.e., shilling.

And you continue to be a thorn in this forum's side.

What pray tell, do you add of value to this forum?
 
If Dr. Dave's Video Encyclopedia of Pool Practice (VEPPS) thread can be moved to the For Sale forum, then it appears to me that this Perfect Aim thread should also be moved to the For Sale forum for the exact same reasons.

Post #1 combined with post #8 is clearly a covert attempt to advertise a product for sale, i.e., shilling.


this what you worry about ? :confused:? lol
 
I see nothing inflammatory at all. For years those against aiming systems and the like have been flaunting "name one top player that uses an aiming system". Well, here is just some more proof that some of the top players DO use aiming systems, and what they think of them. This is what you and others have ASKED for, so quit complaining when you have been proved wrong. Either man up and admit that you were wrong, or just leave it be. No need for you to start complaining about yet something else.


Nice try, but *no one* has ever asked "name one player that uses an aiming system."

Some players use aiming systems, some don't. (Some of the "systems" are so loopy they are only used by their proponents and a few fanatics.) So you might want to revisit that whole "admit that you were wrong" thing, or even better, follow your own advice and "just leave it be."

Lou Figueroa
 
You are wrong Lou, and you know it. A number of people have asked to name top players that use aiming systems. If you think that the systems are so loopy, why don't you challenge them to a game and show them just how loopy they are?


Great. Another mind reader who knows what I'm thinking, lol. As I said, some players use an aiming system, some don't.

And my playing anyone else -- or you, system advocate that you are, playing anyone else for that matter -- has nothing to do with the merits of *any* system. And while I might have expected something like that from some of the other boys in the tree house, I'm surprised to hear you, Neil, suggest something so intellectually bankrupt.

Lou Figueroa
 
Joey you just forced me to put the DVD back in. Now I have questions. Guess I gotta make the call.

Thanks for the push.
 
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