low production production cues from custom shops/makers???

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carolina cues? heard they are in coordination with Tascarella?? guy showed up with a few last nite to take a peek at... <that's what he was peddling them as anyhow.....>
http://www.carolinacues.com/

Arctic star cues from Bender's shop
http://www.indyq.com/custom/bender/index.html

is this a new trend? we were kinda discussing why they don't put their names on them ? To not kill their high end 'real custom' stuff was my opinion?

any info, input, comments welcomed.... curious who else will follow suit? will this increase the wait for one of their real customs?
Murf
 
CueJunkiee said:
carolina cues? heard they are in coordination with Tascarella?? guy showed up with a few last nite to take a peek at... <that's what he was peddling them as anyhow.....>
http://www.carolinacues.com/

Arctic star cues from Bender's shop
http://www.indyq.com/custom/bender/index.html

is this a new trend? we were kinda discussing why they don't put their names on them ? To not kill their high end 'real custom' stuff was my opinion?

any info, input, comments welcomed.... curious who else will follow suit? will this increase the wait for one of their real customs?
Murf
Yeah....Carolina cues is in with Mr. Tascarella. I believe Pete's son is the head cuemaker there.

I saw a couple of these Carolina cues on E-bay this past weekend. They looked like REALLY nice cues...but a production cue for 850-900 bucks is a stretch. Not even sure if they're actual "production cues" per se....but that's what the E-bay add had them listed as.

To their credit, though...the don't name drop Mr. Tascarella's name....looks as though they're making a go of it on their own merits.

I'd like to hear from somebody that has one....and to see how they play and match up to some of the higher end sticks out there.
 
if carolina cues is the name of the production co. that pete was helping setup, it has something to do with his son.. i think his son runs it or owns it.. or something...

as for the bender artic star cues, spanky had one on here awhile ago.. said it was a lower end model bender made for the player.. it seems to be a really nice cue and got a great price.. i will see if i can find that thread...

chris
 
Yes, I have a few of these cues available. If the butt cap was left plain without the name....you will probably think it's a tascarella.. that's how good these cues are. Not to mention, it hit great. These guys are constantly working to make the cue right as they are constantly getting feedback to improve the cues.

I believe they are toying around with different component, joint type etc for the cue until it's acceptable. From what I can tell they are getting very close. I believe pete provided guidance and specification on how they should be making these cues. @ $800...is a very good price for a cue that look like a custom cues and in fact it's a custom production cue. Heck, just look at my cues on ebay right now or at my site. If I didn't tell you it production made and said it was custom...would you even know the difference?

All the cues that I've seen from their shop are short splice blanks that are made with traditional buska design. They are a classic design that's much better the Adam copy of buska cues IMO.

Hope this helps.
 
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Ok Fellas. Let's See If I Can Try To Get The Info Correct, So You Know What Is Actually Going On.

Neither (pete Sr Or Jr) Tascarella Works In The Shop At Carolina Cues. They Helped Set Up The Shop, And Helped Them Get They're Tooling And Construction Right. The Tascarellas Have Nothing To Do With Building, Marketing Or Selling Those Carolina Cues. Anyone That Says Otherwise Is Wrong. The Tascarellas Are In Ny Making Cues. I Hope This Clears Up This Situation.

Now, Onto The Cues. I Had The Sales Manager At My Pool Hall, So I Could Take A Look At Them. I Bought Two Cues, To Give Them A Workout. I Was Pleased With Both, And The Two Customers I Sold Them To Are Also Pleased. The Cues With Points Are Built The Old School Way. Very Nice Spliced Points, With Sharp Tips, No Cnc'd Crap On The Tips Of The Points. Firm Solid Hit. The Taper Was A Bit Stiff, But I Like That So It Didn't Bother Me.

THE CUES ARE NICE, BUT NO ONE IN THEIR RIGHT MIND, THAT KNOWS ANYTHING ABOUT CUES, WOULD MISTAKE A CAROLINA FOR A TASCARELLA. IF I STILL HAD THE CAROLINA I WOULD TAKE PICTURES OF THE TWO CUES SIDE BY SIDE TO SHOW THAT TO EVERYONE.
 
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FAST_N_LOOSE said:
Ok Fellas. Let's See If I Can Try To Get The Info Correct, So You Know What Is Actually Going On.

Neither (pete Sr Or Jr) Tascarella Works In The Shop At Carolina Cues. They Helped Set Up The Shop, And Helped Them Get They're Tooling And Construction Right. The Tascarellas Have Nothing To Do With Building, Marketing Or Selling Those Carolina Cues. Anyone That Says Otherwise Is Wrong. The Tascarellas Are In Ny Making Cues. I Hope This Clears Up This Situation.

Now, Onto The Cues. I Had The Sales Manager At My Pool Hall, So I Could Take A Look At Them. I Bought Two Cues, To Give Them A Workout. I Was Pleased With Both, And The Two Customers I Sold Them To Are Also Pleased. The Cues With Points Are Built The Old School Way. Very Nice Spliced Points, With Sharp Tips, No Cnc'd Crap On The Tips Of The Points. Firm Solid Hit. The Taper Was A Bit Stiff, But I Like That So It Didn't Bother Me.

THE CUES ARE NICE, BUT NO ONE IN THEIR RIGHT MIND, THAT KNOWS ANYTHING ABOUT CUES, WOULD MISTAKE A CAROLINA FOR A TASCARELLA. IF I STILL HAD THE CAROLINA I WOULD TAKE PICTURES OF THE TWO CUES SIDE BY SIDE TO SHOW THAT TO EVERYONE.
Well.....the Master has spoken!! :)

If ANYBODY would know the deal about these cues...and their ties to the Tascarella shop...it would be Marcus.

I stand corrected. I thought I had heard that Pete and Jr. went down to set them up in their new shop, and that Jr. was heading it up. I obviously heard wrong. My apologies.

I'd be interested in trying one out....probably on the secondary market, after the price comes down a few hundred. Since they're production cues by construction, I'm hoping that the secondary market will allow for getting into one for less than 900.

Thanks for setting the record straight, Marcus. Good to hear that the cues are of good quality, regardless of what ties they do (or don't) have with Mr. T.
 
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CueJunkiee said:
carolina cues? heard they are in coordination with Tascarella?? guy showed up with a few last nite to take a peek at... <that's what he was peddling them as anyhow.....>
http://www.carolinacues.com/

Arctic star cues from Bender's shop
http://www.indyq.com/custom/bender/index.html

is this a new trend? we were kinda discussing why they don't put their names on them ? To not kill their high end 'real custom' stuff was my opinion?

any info, input, comments welcomed.... curious who else will follow suit? will this increase the wait for one of their real customs?
Murf
If it is low production,for a production cue,anybody got info on numbers?
 
good info thanks
i did not hit with the 4 carolina's my buddy had... i did inspect them closely though.....
the glue lines were not of the caliber that a master maker would do. Where the joint meets the forearm the lower workmanship showed through too. the area where the wrap meets the forearm and butt looked like a 'quick' job. The ones he had were steel sleeved joints with wood to wood contact. He said they hit real good <he's aa A++ player> Another issue i had was stupid BUT the labels had most of the cues 19oz, only one was real close- one even weighed almost 21!!
for a 'production cue' not bad, and hopefully get better. If i was going to shell 800 for one of these i think i'd rather have a Schon...
Murf
 
To answer your questions, we are a small production shop.
Our goal is to produce the highest quality production cues, with emphasis on the traditional styles.
There are currently 3 hall of fame players using our cues, and they are all very pleased.

We have been making cues for only a few months and we are improving our methods every day. To any that are not satisfied with the
fit and finish of their cues, we have recently changed finishing products and improved our wraps. Please feel free to ship
any cue you are not pleased with back to us and we will refinish and rewrap it at no charge.

Thank you for everyones interest and you can get our cues from us or online at www.competitionsports.com and www.customcuesandtips.com
We will send you pics if you ask our webiste is not up with pics but does give you the back ground of us.

Trevor Donahue
Carolina Cues
Shop Manager
704-489-8360
 
Fast N Loose... .did you see the carolina cues that I have? here are pics of some of the production Carolina Cues. I believe these are one of their best cues yet!!

Check it out:
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Hmmmm.....

Well, I have only 2 things to say.

1. I don't own a Tascarella anymore (and the one I DID own was a hustler cue)...but I can tell the difference. I've drooled over enough Tasc. cue pics to see differences between the two cuemakers.

2. I STILL would like to try one out. They are sharp looking cues, and it sounds like the cuemakers are doing their best to do it right.

I'll be interested to see how things progress with them in this endeavor.

If anybody gets one, post up how it compares to the other higher end production cues (like Schon cues and the like)....and then sell it to me for CHEAP so I can test drive it!!! :) :)
 
Cuemaster98 said:
Fast N Loose... .did you see the carolina cues that I have? here are pics of some of the production Carolina Cues. I believe these are one of their best cues yet!!

I HAVE NOT SEEN YOUR CAROLINAS IN PERSON, I'M SURE THEY ARE GREAT. I HAVE RESPECT FOR THE GUYS AT CAROLINA CUES, AND THEY MAKE A HECK OF A CUE, BUT THERE ARE MANY DIFFERENCES COMPARED TO A TASCARELLA, OR ANOTHER HIGH END CUSTOM CUE MAKER. IT WOULD BE LIKE COMPARING A SCHON TO A SEARING, OR A MOTTEY. JUST THE FIT AND FEEL OF THE TWO CUES ARE LEAPS AND BOUNDS APART.

I KNOW YOU ARE TRYING TO SELL CUES, AND I APPRECIATE THAT, BUT DON'T TRY TO MAKE THEM APPEAR TO BE THE SAME AS A TASCARELLA. THAT'S JUST MISLEADING. GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR SALES, THE CAROLINA CUES ARE VERY NICE.
 
Hi Marcus,

I not trying to compare a carolina cue to a custom cue like tascarella, mottey, or searing. Like the saying goes..you get what pay for. When you pay $3000 a custom cues from one of these guys you expect everything to be perfect.... points perfect, balance perfect...everything.

So when you pay for a production cue like schon or carolina, you can and will expect that it will lack some of the quality of a high end custom cues. In my earlier post, I'm just trying point out the quality of these cues for the money at first glance that coming out of Carolina's shop.

I hope I didn't mislead anyone in thinking that a Carolina cue is of same quality as a searing/tascarella... just thought IMO that it looks similar to those high end cues.
 
A lot of our cues are similiar to Tascarella's in that they are splices with 4 veneers, but that makes them also similiar to about just about everybody. We are trying to make some bushka style cues, who hasn't? We were not in any way trying to mimic Pete's work. We even make our own blanks. Just wanted to clear that up from our end.

Michael
Mhancock@Carolinacues.com
 
CarolinaCues said:
To answer your questions, we are a small production shop.
Our goal is to produce the highest quality production cues, with emphasis on the traditional styles.
There are currently 3 hall of fame players using our cues, and they are all very pleased.

We have been making cues for only a few months and we are improving our methods every day. To any that are not satisfied with the
fit and finish of their cues, we have recently changed finishing products and improved our wraps. Please feel free to ship
any cue you are not pleased with back to us and we will refinish and rewrap it at no charge.

Thank you for everyones interest and you can get our cues from us or online at www.competitionsports.com and www.customcuesandtips.com
We will send you pics if you ask our webiste is not up with pics but does give you the back ground of us.

Trevor Donahue
Carolina Cues
Shop Manager
704-489-8360

Do U pruduce your forearms? Beside cost what are some of the other differances between custom and production cues? Based on pics your Q,s look almost identical to some VERY high end cues. Have you thought about going to an 18 thread count pin or some other way way to make forgery more difficult? It would be very easy to switch butt caps, forge sigs, etc. for those so inclined:(

Based on pics the Q's look nice:)
 
ribdoner said:
Do U pruduce your forearms? Beside cost what are some of the other differances between custom and production cues? Based on pics your Q,s look almost identical to some VERY high end cues. Have you thought about going to an 18 thread count pin or some other way way to make forgery more difficult? It would be very easy to switch butt caps, forge sigs, etc. for those so inclined:(

Based on pics the Q's look nice:)


I CAN ANSWER SOME OF YOUR QUESTIONS.

YES THEY MAKE THEIR OWN FOREARM(THEY ARE VERY WELL EXECUTED BY THE WAY)
THE 3/8 10 PIN THAT THEY USE IS SOMEWHAT UNIQUE. IT ISN'T A STANDARD 3/8 10.
THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THEM BEING PRODUCTION COMPARED TO CUSTOM, I WOULD SAY JUST THE VOLUME OF CUES THAT THEY PLAN ON PRODUCING. OTHER THAN THAT THE CUES ARE CONSTRUCTED JUST LIKE CUSTOMS. NO METAL BOLTS AT THE HANDLE JOINT, EVERYTHING IS THREADED AND GLUED. IT'S CUSTOM WORK AT PRODUCTION SHOP PRICES.

I'M SURE ONE OF THE CAROLINA GUYS MAY GIVE US MORE INSIGHT.
 
FAST_N_LOOSE said:
I CAN ANSWER SOME OF YOUR QUESTIONS.

YES THEY MAKE THEIR OWN FOREARM(THEY ARE VERY WELL EXECUTED BY THE WAY)
THE 3/8 10 PIN THAT THEY USE IS SOMEWHAT UNIQUE. IT ISN'T A STANDARD 3/8 10.
THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THEM BEING PRODUCTION COMPARED TO CUSTOM, I WOULD SAY JUST THE VOLUME OF CUES THAT THEY PLAN ON PRODUCING. OTHER THAN THAT THE CUES ARE CONSTRUCTED JUST LIKE CUSTOMS. NO METAL BOLTS AT THE HANDLE JOINT, EVERYTHING IS THREADED AND GLUED. IT'S CUSTOM WORK AT PRODUCTION SHOP PRICES.

I'M SURE ONE OF THE CAROLINA GUYS MAY GIVE US MORE INSIGHT.


Tks for the reply. I ASSUMED (I still do that stupid chit) the pin was a 14 count thread. My reason for concern is obvious.... Adam
 
FAST_N_LOOSE said:
I CAN ANSWER SOME OF YOUR QUESTIONS.

YES THEY MAKE THEIR OWN FOREARM(THEY ARE VERY WELL EXECUTED BY THE WAY)
THE 3/8 10 PIN THAT THEY USE IS SOMEWHAT UNIQUE. IT ISN'T A STANDARD 3/8 10.
THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THEM BEING PRODUCTION COMPARED TO CUSTOM, I WOULD SAY JUST THE VOLUME OF CUES THAT THEY PLAN ON PRODUCING. OTHER THAN THAT THE CUES ARE CONSTRUCTED JUST LIKE CUSTOMS. NO METAL BOLTS AT THE HANDLE JOINT, EVERYTHING IS THREADED AND GLUED. IT'S CUSTOM WORK AT PRODUCTION SHOP PRICES.

I'M SURE ONE OF THE CAROLINA GUYS MAY GIVE US MORE INSIGHT.


Actually, Marcus pretty much summed it up. Thanks for the compliment about the blanks, we are proud of them. The only thing we can add is that we are going to be making some cues with 5/16 14 soon, as an alternative. Thanks again for all the interest.

Trevor Donahue
 
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