Magic Chalk & ChicagoRJ Review

ExilePreacher

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Before I begin this review let me make some disclaimers. I've not done this before so it'll probably suck. I don't write well so it'll probably suck. My tests weren't scientific like Dr. Dave's so it'll probably suck. I don't own any Kamui chalk to compare with so it'll probably suck. You get the idea: as a review this will probably suck.

All that being said, I can tell you that Magic Chalk doesn't suck. This stuff is awesome. I bought 6 boxes from ChicagoRJ a month ago and have been using the same single cube exclusively since then. During that time I've had a lot of gambling matches and been hitting the ball better than I can remember doing for the last year. Allow me to describe my experiences with this great product.

First off, the seller has been a terrific guy to deal with. I used PayPal to order my 6 boxes from ChicagoRJ and within a few hours he sent me a confirmation email letting me know when to expect delivery. The chalk arrived within the specified time range and was packaged well. The product itself was in perfect condition with no problems. The customer service has been all I could ask for and I recommend ChicagoRJ as a very reputable dealer. Try him out, you can't go wrong.

Now for the chalk. The day it came in I couldn't wait to get to the pool room. I put the chalk in my Chalk Shark magnetic holder and started shooting extreme draw shots. For me this is a consistent test. If I can keep my stroke pure and control draw I know I'm on the right track. It's all subjective I admit, but if something is amiss, I can just "feel it" hitting extreme draw. The first thing I noticed was that I didn't experience any kind of slippage on the draw stroke using Magic Chalk. The tip (an elkmaster milk dud I made) grabbed the Measles ball and I could both feel and see the back spin take perfectly, the cue ball spinning effortlessly back into the corner pocket from center table. The Magic Chalk grips so well that stroking the ball truly feels effortless. That's the only word I know to describe it: effortless.

After the draw test I decided to throw out racks of nine ball and just run them out, freewheeling. I virtually could not miss. Due to the controlled grab of the tip I was able to draw perfectly with a medium stroke and have at least three times the draw I would with Masters. I could use various combinations of side spin with follow and draw with confidence that I would not miscue, even if I was at the very edge of the maximum allowable spin point on the cue ball. I compared it with Blue Diamond (which is a very good performer itself and was my previous choice of chalk) and my control with Magic was still a great deal better. The first night I used Magic I decided to show off with it to a good friend on a very fast Diamond table doing extreme inside English draw shots. I was able, with one application of magic chalk to easily draw the ball all the way around the table and spin it back to where I started from a great number of times. Mike Massey would have been proud of the spin. But here's the thing, I chalked once and then placed the chalk away from the table so as not to use it again. I did this extreme English draw 37 times and never miscued!! Not once! I didn't always get a perfect hit I admit (my stroke being the culprit, not the chalk!!), but my friend was dumbfounded at the amount of juice on the ball every time. Finally we got bored waiting for a miscue and gave up!!

A couple days later I made the long trip down to the metro Atlanta area to visit Ozone Billiards. I frequently go there to buy stuff and play a little free pool on their Diamond tables. Their instructor, J.P., was there and I showed him the chalk, doing the same kind of extreme English/draw/follow shots while using one of their demo model Predator cues. The cue had a terribly glazed over, flattened Tiger Everest tip, yet with one application of the Magic Chalk I juiced the ball 40 (we gave up at forty!!) times without a miscue. J.P. witnessed it and could only shake his head and say he wanted some. We looked at the tip after the fortieth shot and it didn't even look like it had chalk left, just a light covering (almost an embedded cake) of crushed blue dust. Yet this awful glazed tip still didn't cause a miscue with extreme English.

For the last month I've used the same cube, as I mentioned before. I've been playing long hours about 4-5 nights a week on average and have had a number of gambling matches almost every time. In all that time I've counted 4 miscues!! Four!! I hate to admit it but all four were my fault, not the chalk. One was while using the mechanical bridge at an awkward angle. I shanked it. Another was being jacked up over a ball frozen to the cue ball at an extreme stretch and I shanked it. The third was a drag draw shot and I nipped it. On the fourth, I was frozen to the rail after a horrible positional error. I was on the hill and two balls away from running an entire $100 set and just plain choked (thankfully I won the set anyway). The shot was very tedious and I damn near missed the entire cue ball and it lodged between my ferrule and the cloth.

The bottom line with Magic Chalk for me is that it gives me the confidence that if I dress my tip properly and do my part in stroking the ball, the cue ball will react the way I expect and won't be slipping off the tip. I can honestly say that it has improved my game a great deal as of late and I am more consistent now than I have been in a year. That's enough for me to use it exclusively when a shot is important.

This stuff is either angelic or maybe brimstone from hell. Or it may be nuclear rock from Chernobyl and end up making me glow in the dark one day. Either way, I don't care. I'll never use anything else if cash is on the line.
 
I agree with you 100%.

I bought a couple of pieces of it off a guy here who got it from RJ, I think.

It is way better than Masters. It seems to be a bit more "gritty" to me, but I think it may be "finer". Maybe I'm not using the right terms, but it seems that it stays on the tip better and gives you more "traction" than Masters.

I've miscued WAY less with this chalk than Masters when I'm putting extreme spin on the cue ball.

I'm down to a little nub left and hoping to get some more.

Aloha.
 
Earlier this month I purchased 3 boxes of MC via ebay from seller xxgearxx......I kept one box and gave out 4 cubes to 4 diffrenet players to try. I'm having surgery in a week and I have no need for the extra chalk for the next 3-4 mths.......if I like it, I'll just order more. Meanwhile, I'll await and see how it rates with my pals.......right now, I don't see any real plus to it.........I still have the tendency to chalk every other shot.....it's just my shooting routine......when I don't stick to this, my bio goes off key and it's like something is missing.....like I forgot something I'm supposed to do.......resisting the urge to chalk is a lot more bothersome than being able to go a dozen or 2 dozen shots without chalking......you still need to reapply chalk at some point and so when you do it as a routine, all the time, not doing it is more disruptive to your play than actually doing it......does that make sense to anyone.......applying chalk is part of my shot routine........I do it as I walk to see the object ball from the pocket side before I shoot and disrupting what's become a habit over the past few decades......well, screw that........I'll just stick to chalking every other shot.

So far my own review is the formulation is a little more consistent than the chalk I've used the past 3 - 4 years.....BD.......but I don't see MC grabbing the cue ball any differently or improving my draw stroke or applying extreme vertical or horizontal English or even Masse shots for that matter. Maybe if I had poor chalk application habits I might notice something different or better with MC but so far, I could leave or take it.......it doesn't impress as being a superior chalk but when the price is the same as BD, I'll buy either......I paid $3.58 per cube of MC and BD chalk costs about a $1.30 less per cube.......so it's not the economics.....MC just didn't seem to differentiate itself in any way from the BD so far from my own play with MC. Oh well, I'm glad I tried the chalk and while I'm recuperating from surgery, I'm going to follow the way the chalk performs and rates with the 4 players I gave the extra chalk to test play.
 
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After the draw test I decided to throw out racks of nine ball and just run them out, freewheeling. I virtually could not miss.

Sorry, as much as I like Magic Chalk, I could not take this review seriously after this comment. If you think that the chalk is so magical that you can't miss when using it, you are delusional. Chalk does not help with shot mechanics, aim, understanding position play, etc... Implying that the chalk you used made it so that "you could not miss" is insane.
 
Sorry, as much as I like Magic Chalk, I could not take this review seriously after this comment. If you think that the chalk is so magical that you can't miss when using it, you are delusional. Chalk does not help with shot mechanics, aim, understanding position play, etc... Implying that the chalk you used made it so that "you could not miss" is insane.

I don't miss much anyway. Fact of life. If you'd like to find out in person some time bring you're pompous Yankee @$$ south sometime and we can let you put your money where your keyboard currently is. What I tried to imply (I suppose I failed miserably) is that the chalk, after some use, gave me confidence and my application of spin was very consistent. I do attribute some of that consistency to the chalk, and the confidence (whether subjective nonsense on my part or not) certainly was due to it. I never said "I can't miss when using it". That part you read into my review so I think you are the one with delusions here. As for mechanics, knowledge, etc. I don't think anything in my review implies that chalk improves them at all.
 
Sorry, as much as I like Magic Chalk, I could not take this review seriously after this comment. If you think that the chalk is so magical that you can't miss when using it, you are delusional. Chalk does not help with shot mechanics, aim, understanding position play, etc... Implying that the chalk you used made it so that "you could not miss" is insane.


He never said he didn't miss. But from what I heard, his mechanics are just fine. He plays pool and gambles for a living from what I hear from other folks. Not too many folks have poor mechanics that gamble to pay the rent, well, maybe a few homeless pool players, but Preacher is not homeless ;)

I like the review, and this is from a guy that I gave Red Rep to only a few months ago. So, yeah, I'm surprised as anyone I'd get a flowing review. When he wanted to buy some chalk, I had reservations, but I figured, if he wanted to get me this bad, he was just going say he got some from somewhere else, so I'd might as well profit from the expected bad review.

Class Act Preacher. You could have taken this shot to get "even" with me about the Red Rep I sent your way, but chose to tell the truth. I respect that a LOT.
 
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.....MC just didn't seem to differentiate itself in any way from the BD so far from my own play with MC. Oh well, I'm glad I tried the chalk and while I'm recuperating from surgery, I'm going to follow the way the chalk performs and rates with the 4 players I gave the extra chalk to test play.

Hey, it's not for everyone. But, Dr. Dave has shown which chalk performs better and BD is just a notch or two about Silver Cup and Masters, that's it. While BD was way behind Kamui and MC. But if it works for you, hey, stay with it.
 
I got my magic chalk from RJ just in time for a tournament the end of March.
I'm still on the 1st cube and I believe it has reduced my miscues by at least a 1/3.
Most of my miscues are my fault.
 
JP is gonna trade me a Renfro soft tip for a cube anyway but send him a box, he's a great guy. RJ, the red rep was earned by my hyperbole so don't sweat it. The chalk is great, the service was great, so the review had to be positive. In these days of Fox News I hear we are supposed to give a fair and balanced commentary. So I guess I should think of something negative to say about the chalk but I can't. I thought about mentioning that it clings to the cue ball but from my experience Blue Diamond does this more so I'd have to say Magic is still better.

As for my mechanics I'll just be a total @$$hole and mention the fact that for over a year I've actually made my living gambling shooting with my off hand about 80 percent of the time.

And thanks to Swanson Thaiger for bumping a review with mindless drivel that only someone with a typical British stunted sense of humor would find even mildly humorous.
 
Lol.

I don't think ive been in so much awe of a poster's obvious ability since the colonel clucked into view.

Both tremendous talkers.
 
Earlier this month I purchased 3 boxes of MC via ebay from seller xxgearxx......I kept one box and gave out 4 cubes to 4 diffrenet players to try. I'm having surgery in a week and I have no need for the extra chalk for the next 3-4 mths.......if I like it, I'll just order more. Meanwhile, I'll await and see how it rates with my pals.......right now, I don't see any real plus to it.........I still have the tendency to chalk every other shot.....it's just my shooting routine......when I don't stick to this, my bio goes off key and it's like something is missing.....like I forgot something I'm supposed to do.......resisting the urge to chalk is a lot more bothersome than being able to go a dozen or 2 dozen shots without chalking......you still need to reapply chalk at some point and so when you do it as a routine, all the time, not doing it is more disruptive to your play than actually doing it......does that make sense to anyone.......applying chalk is part of my shot routine........I do it as I walk to see the object ball from the pocket side before I shoot and disrupting what's become a habit over the past few decades......well, screw that........I'll just stick to chalking every other shot.

So far my own review is the formulation is a little more consistent than the chalk I've used the past 3 - 4 years.....BD.......but I don't see MC grabbing the cue ball any differently or improving my draw stroke or applying extreme vertical or horizontal English or even Masse shots for that matter. Maybe if I had poor chalk application habits I might notice something different or better with MC but so far, I could leave or take it.......it doesn't impress as being a superior chalk but when the price is the same as BD, I'll buy either......I paid $3.58 per cube of MC and BD chalk costs about a $1.30 less per cube.......so it's not the economics.....MC just didn't seem to differentiate itself in any way from the BD so far from my own play with MC. Oh well, I'm glad I tried the chalk and while I'm recuperating from surgery, I'm going to follow the way the chalk performs and rates with the 4 players I gave the extra chalk to test play.

I'm pretty much the same as this.....no surgery though. :grin-square:
 
The only benefit I can see is a reduced amount of castoff.

Shooting multiple shots without re applying is merely courting disaster. I'd have to use my beads to count my shots, and not balls made.
 
The only benefit I can see is a reduced amount of castoff.

Shooting multiple shots without re applying is merely courting disaster. I'd have to use my beads to count my shots, and not balls made.

Personally I just have more confidence in the chalk versus Masters. I still chalk virtually every shot. In fact I'm one of those nervous types who often chalks, thinks over the shot, gets down, says no no can't do that; better do it differently, chalks, gets down, whoops did I chalk? Chalk again. Finally shoot. And while playing I do that. So I still try to chalk every shot. I just did some tests with one application to see how good the stuff really is. But the grip on the cue ball with Magic Chalk just excels IMO. Masters is hit or miss IMO. I chalk well. Always have. I'm meticulous about it. And yet I've had terrible experiences with Masters. I changed to Blue Diamond about 9 months ago and as long as I keep up the chalk routine I've had no problems. Blue Diamond is a good product. But the Magic Chalk seems to me to perform even better. It's a "feel" issue and the feedback I get is very nice.
 
Lol.

I don't think ive been in so much awe of a poster's obvious ability since the colonel clucked into view.

Both tremendous talkers.

Sorry Limey it's an American thing, you wouldn't get it. See, over here when someone can back it up we consider bragging as acceptable behavior. Especially if that bragging is backed up with a sizable chunk of change. As Dizzy Dean supposedly said, "It ain't braggin' if you done it." And there are a few forum members here who can attest to the fact that "I done it."

I do wonder though. I play about 70 to 80 percent of my usual ability with the off hand. With my dominant side I'm an A player with occasional A+ days. You Brits seem to worship O'Sullivan and call his ability to shoot with the off hand genius. Why am I such a braggart for being proud of the fact that I can play a solid B to B+ player game doing the same? Oh I know, I'm an American who believes in a product that Swanson likes to ridicule because British blowhard knows there can't be better chalk than green Triangle because the "snewka playas" use it.
 
So would Willie have run 600 balls if he had used Master Chalk back at that time.......and how many have come even approached that run even with the emergence of LD shafts, MC et al????? Truth is that chalk is chalk when regularly & properly applied ........and 526 would probably still be the number regardless of the chalk Willie used.....and his miscues wouldn't have improved using MC becuz he just didn't miscue.......zero is zero. I suspect MC helps the player that exhibits poor application of chalk but that's about it.
 
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