Magic Rack at Joss event

Magic racks are great. Anyone who doesn't think so probably hasn't used them much. Use them exclusively for a month and you'll never use anything else.
Alternate break is a must, as is the nine on the spot and the three point rule.

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WTF!!! Some of you guys make it sound like it's soooo easy to put together 5 packs. I don't care if you use a MR and pattern rack.

I would challenge anybody to an even money bet, trying to break and run 5 racks. You can use the MR and pattern rack all you want. I will sit back and collect my money and drink a few beers. :rolleyes:
 
tucson9ball said:
WTF!!! Some of you guys make it sound like it's soooo easy to put together 5 packs. I don't care if you use a MR and pattern rack.

I would challenge anybody to an even money bet, trying to break and run 5 racks. You can use the MR and pattern rack all you want. I will sit back and collect my money and drink a few beers. :rolleyes:
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Well, I suck at pool, compared to the guys that win medium/ large tournies and I can whip the ghost's ass on my table with one.
I think you would be one sad in an afternoon of that bet. Not that I think the chances are good for 5 on 5 attempts, but in a few hours and by a pro player...
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tucson9ball said:
WTF!!! ...
I would challenge anybody to an even money bet, trying to break and run 5 racks. You can use the MR and pattern rack all you want. I will sit back and collect my money and drink a few beers. :rolleyes:
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And they missed you here too...;)
racefornine said:
If anyone was there this weekend please give your opinion . I saw more packages of 5 or more than I could count . The finals true double elimination saw Phil B from across the pond winning 9-1 , 9-0 vs Shorty . I believe the owner of the room insisted on using them to help speed the pace of play .
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Black-Balled said:
Well, I suck at pool, compared to the guys that win medium/ large tournies and I can whip the ghost's ass on my table with one.
I think you would be one sad in an afternoon of that bet. Not that I think the chances are good for 5 on 5 attempts, but in a few hours and by a pro player...
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I didn't say anything about playing the ghost. The cue ball must be played from where it stops after the break. My offer stands, even bet for any 5 packs.

I saw that other post that mentions "many 5 packs", I think that's a lil exageration. I've played in and watched many tournies, 5 packs are pretty rare.

Let's see how many takers I get. *crickets*
 
tucson9ball said:
I didn't say anything about playing the ghost. The cue ball must be played from where it stops after the break. My offer stands, even bet for any 5 packs.

I saw that other post that mentions "many 5 packs", I think that's a lil exageration. I've played in and watched many tournies, 5 packs are pretty rare.

Let's see how many takers I get. *crickets*
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My ghost comment was more to convey that even though my skill level is far below that of a pro, I can run more than not...therefore one with far greater skills than I should be able to do a 5, given hours.
 
tucson9ball said:
I didn't say anything about playing the ghost. The cue ball must be played from where it stops after the break. My offer stands, even bet for any 5 packs.

I saw that other post that mentions "many 5 packs", I think that's a lil exageration. I've played in and watched many tournies, 5 packs are pretty rare.

Let's see how many takers I get. *crickets*
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The only reason why you don't see many 5 pack it's only because there is a lot of luck on obtaining a shot after the break. The proof is a lot of people are running packages with ball in hand after the break.
 
I would put any of the top six finishers in the Joss event at Snookers to play the ghost without ball in hand using the magic rack . Any Takers
 
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Slh said:
The only reason why you don't see many 5 pack it's only because there is a lot of luck on obtaining a shot after the break. The proof is a lot of people are running packages with ball in hand after the break.
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I would say the real reason it that in tournies the object is to win, not run racks.

A player would likely choose to shoot a safe that makes his opponent kick 99.9%, rather than shoot a shot that is only a 60% chance of success...surrendering the table in the short term for a better shot next time.

Now, put up an ad for $20000 challence to run a 5 pack...http://forums.azbilliards.com/showpost.php?p=3636227&postcount=23
 
Black-Balled said:
Would you bet even money any would put down a 5pk that way, given 12 hrs to complete?
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Ill take the bet, and will stream it. Over a 12 hr session, playin 9 ball, I will at some point run a 5 pack.
anyone can bet, just must post.
So ill basically be playin the ghost with no ball in hand
 
Black-Balled said:
My ghost comment was more to convey that even though my skill level is far below that of a pro, I can run more than not...therefore one with far greater skills than I should be able to do a 5, given hours.
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How many hours makes no difference. The shooter bets they can run 5 in a row. If they miss any shot in their attempt, they lose and pay up. They can attempt it again as much as the want. If they don't get to 5 in a row, I win and they pay again.

Any time they run 5 in a row, they win.

I'm not trying to bust your balls, but, I doubt any player would take this bet. There are way too many variables to screw things up. The 1 ball caould get goofy right out of the gate, or 2 balls might get tied up making things really tough.

I know Pros could do a 5 pack any day, given a couple hours. They would surely have a 5 pack in there someplace.
 
tucson9ball said:
How many hours makes no difference. The shooter bets they can run 5 in a row. If they miss any shot in their attempt, they lose and pay up. They can attempt it again as much as the want. If they don't get to 5 in a row, I win and they pay again.

Any time they run 5 in a row, they win.

I'm not trying to bust your balls, but, I doubt any player would take this bet. There are way too many variables to screw things up. The 1 ball caould get goofy right out of the gate, or 2 balls might get tied up making things really tough.

I know Pros could do a 5 pack any day, given a couple hours. They would surely have a 5 pack in there someplace.
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Of course noone will do that. NOONE on the planet could win at that.
 
JumpinJoe said:
Ill take the bet, and will stream it. Over a 12 hr session, playin 9 ball, I will at some point run a 5 pack.
anyone can bet, just must post.
So ill basically be playin the ghost with no ball in hand
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Joe ... That is how the ghost was originally played, with no ball in hand, so when you beat the ghost it was really an accomplishment. With ball in hand after the break, not so much.
 
The time allowed makes no difference? Would you prefer to bet you could break and run a rack, given 1 attempt or 3 hours?

See Jumpin Joe's post. You won't even have to leave your house to book this winner or loser.
tucson9ball said:
How many hours makes no difference. The shooter bets they can run 5 in a row. If they miss any shot in their attempt, they lose and pay up. They can attempt it again as much as the want. If they don't get to 5 in a row, I win and they pay again.

Any time they run 5 in a row, they win.

I'm not trying to bust your balls, but, I doubt any player would take this bet. There are way too many variables to screw things up. The 1 ball caould get goofy right out of the gate, or 2 balls might get tied up making things really tough.

I know Pros could do a 5 pack any day, given a couple hours. They would surely have a 5 pack in there someplace.
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Black-Balled said:
I would say the real reason it that in tournies the object is to win, not run racks.

A player would likely choose to shoot a safe that makes his opponent kick 99.9%, rather than shoot a shot that is only a 60% chance of success...surrendering the table in the short term for a better shot next time.

Now, put up an ad for $20000 challence to run a 5 pack...http://forums.azbilliards.com/showpost.php?p=3636227&postcount=23
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the point is the game is too easy for the pros.

If a banger ( like me) can run a 3 pack playing the ghost there is really something wrong. Not saying a 3 pack is amazing result but it is decent.
The pros can run 6-7 packs easily playing the ghost with bih this
means the matches are decided on who get more lucky on obtaining a shot on lowest numbered ball or who gets more rolls and this is sad to me.
When I hear "x run a 6 pack" I'm not that surpised because I know a lot of players around the world could do that but with so tough breaking tables is hard to make a ball and obtaining a shot on the lowest ball. The only reason you don't hear of a lot of 5 packs is because the luck on the break is huge. I bet if a tournament with bih after the break take place we would see a lot of big packages.
 
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