Mainting a Dime shaped tip

it's your chalking technique, period, end of story.

if you chalk straight across the top like Mike Dechaine, you will flatten your tip *rapidly*. if you drill like many other players, you'll flatten it slower, but it will happen and you'll need to correct it with a tool frequently.

if you chalk the edges of your tip, as many snooker players do, you can maintain a dime radius easily without Ever using a tip tool, on any tip.

i've used several of the tips you mention, and also Moori mediums, and have kept tips at a dime radius for their entire lifetime without them ever seeing a tip tool. the bonus is the tips actually last for years, even with heavy daily use. i just replaced an Everest medium that was 4 years on and still had maybe a month left with a Precision medium (thanks for the recommendation, Chris Melling!) which is considerably harder; doesn't matter, it's easy to keep the tip where i want it. (that's playing ~3hrs per day, or 20 hrs per week)

think about it for a second: do you actually even need chalk on the apex of the tip at all? no, in fact you could wipe it completely off, and you will never miscue there. if you look at one of the tips on my cues, you'll see a semi-bald spot in the center, maybe 1/8-3/16" across. if i miscue, which is extremely rare, it's not from that; as you know, every time you miscue you see exactly where it happened, and the damage is to the edge, never anywhere else.

tip tools are unnecessary if you chalk to fit the style of tip you want.
 
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My theory is dime shape is better fit on 12mm.
Where as nickle shape fits 13mm better.

I hope you see the logic ! :yeah:

Sometimes I don't mind the nickelodeon shape....

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...but it might not be logical.
 
If you are trying to maintain a dime, and it keeps flattening out, leave it alone and play with it as is.

Your style of play ie how much center ball you use, how close to center you stay in general, how hard you hit etc etc etc all have a bearing on your tips final shape. Youre trying to keep it something it doesnt want to be. Its not only futile, it wastes tip leather.

This is very interesting. I never worried about the shape of my tip. The only thing I do not like is it the tip is too flat. I always loved using a lot of English on my shots (that has always been my style of shooting). Hard to get a lot of English on the cue ball if the tip is very flat, right? I do not know though. It seems to me that a nickel shape would not be bad. I never understood the difference between like a nickel and a dime shape, or any other terms there are out there. What is the best shape for a person who likes to use a lot of English on their shots? Just curious, and sorry to the OP for going off topic.
 
This is very interesting. I never worried about the shape of my tip. The only thing I do not like is it the tip is too flat. I always loved using a lot of English on my shots (that has always been my style of shooting). Hard to get a lot of English on the cue ball if the tip is very flat, right? I do not know though. It seems to me that a nickel shape would not be bad. I never understood the difference between like a nickel and a dime shape, or any other terms there are out there. What is the best shape for a person who likes to use a lot of English on their shots? Just curious, and sorry to the OP for going off topic.

If you want power with your spin, I recommend a dime shape....
...on a flat tip, the stress on the shaft is too much towards the side of the shaft....
...therefore a weaker hit.
Dime shape, the stress is closer to the center.
 
why would you use a lot of english. the idea is to use as little as needed.
if you run hundreds of balls dont pay attention to me.
 
it's your chalking technique, period, end of story.

if you chalk straight across the top like Mike Dechaine, you will flatten your tip *rapidly*. if you drill like many other players, you'll flatten it slower, but it will happen and you'll need to correct it with a tool frequently.

if you chalk the edges of your tip, as many snooker players do, you can maintain a dime radius easily without Ever using a tip tool, on any tip.

i've used several of the tips you mention, and also Moori mediums, and have kept tips at a dime radius for their entire lifetime without them ever seeing a tip tool. the bonus is the tips actually last for years, even with heavy daily use. i just replaced an Everest medium that was 4 years on and still had maybe a month left with a Precision medium (thanks for the recommendation, Chris Melling!) which is considerably harder; doesn't matter, it's easy to keep the tip where i want it. (that's playing ~3hrs per day, or 20 hrs per week)

think about it for a second: do you actually even need chalk on the apex of the tip at all? no, in fact you could wipe it completely off, and you will never miscue there. if you look at one of the tips on my cues, you'll see a semi-bald spot in the center, maybe 1/8-3/16" across. if i miscue, which is extremely rare, it's not from that; as you know, every time you miscue you see exactly where it happened, and the damage is to the edge, never anywhere else.

tip tools are unnecessary if you chalk to fit the style of tip you want.


Thats some knowledge you dropped sir
Thank you, much to ponder and put to trial


From what ive noticied from the recent world snooker event
Carom players and snooker players chalk similarly
 
Achieving a perfect Dime Tip is an elusive feat.

Maintaining it has to be easier but regardless, the Last 4 Ever tip tool is the bomb!

I've destroyed so much of so many tips using other tools that promise a Dime Tip, but never (seem to) deliver.

Buy the the Last 4 Ever tip tool. You'll thank me for recommending it. -Z-
 
I agree with a couple of the earlier posts...

Is it just me or is this the impossible dream?

I have tried several tips, kamui, everest, talisman buffalo, ultraskin, talisman pro, and a few others I can't remember.

No matter the tip, in very short order, my dime shaped tip becomes nickel shaped. Out comes the Last4ever and I reshape.

Is that just the price of keeping it at that profile or am I doing something wrong?

I agree that your style of play is a dominant factor. As a 'spinner' for better or worse,
My tip ALWAYS stays in the dime shape...........

SO..... just spin it more!!! ;-)

Td
 
I don't think the tip has much to do with your style of *play*, but everything to do with your style of chalking. I wipe chalk on the edges at an angle, and I keep a dime shape forever really. Also, this all assumes a quality install. I have a technique that more or less eliminates or greatly reduces mushrooming. After that, it's really about chalking and nothing else.

KMRUNOUT


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it's your chalking technique, period, end of story.

if you chalk straight across the top like Mike Dechaine, you will flatten your tip *rapidly*. if you drill like many other players, you'll flatten it slower, but it will happen and you'll need to correct it with a tool frequently.

Oops, didn't think of that. Are people still doing that?
You ALWAYS chalk down from top to the side(s) of your tip!
 
I was looking all over the forum for a guide on how to maintain a tip. I have always just sanded a small layer off before a bi match or once it started to get too smooth. No system. When should you take a layer off? When do you tamp with spikes? Is there a right way to regularly maintain a tip?

Thank you.


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Wasn't happy with the tip tools on the market today so I made my own. The shaping material is too abrasive for my liking.

Got some schedule 40 1/2" pvc and cut off a 3" piece. Then cut the 3" piece in half (lengthwise), lined 1 half with 200 grit self adhesive sandpaper and the other half with 120 grit self adhesive sandpaper. This resulted in the inside halves being the exact shape of a dime.

The 120 grit is used only once to get the tip to a dime shape, then the 200 grit is used when needed to maintain the dime shape and to remove glazing.

I use a 12.75mm Kamui clear black medium tip and have had no issues with the tip flattening out to the shape of a nickel.

John :)
 
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I was looking all over the forum for a guide on how to maintain a tip. I have always just sanded a small layer off before a bi match or once it started to get too smooth. No system. When should you take a layer off? When do you tamp with spikes? Is there a right way to regularly maintain a tip?

Thank you.


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Take a thousand guys and they will maintain a tip a thousand different ways. I do find it is infinitely easier to maintain a tip that is not layered.
 
I have tried several tips, kamui, everest, talisman buffalo, ultraskin, talisman pro, and a few others I can't remember.

No matter the tip, in very short order, my dime shaped tip becomes nickel shaped. Out comes the Last4ever and I reshape.

Is that just the price of keeping it at that profile or am I doing something wrong?

Use a harder tip.
 
As others have mentioned it's how you chalk.

After the tip settles down and gets compressed by enough hours of play, the "sanding" of the tip you do by chalking will determine its shape. I have a tendency to twirl or rotate my stick when chalking and can easily end up with a bullet shaped tip if I'm not careful. Makes shooting a CB frozen to the rail extremely hazardous.

Lou Figueroa
 
Yes this. Tried all sorts of tips over time and like many ended up with hard pressed triangle. Very little maintenance.

Triangle?
Is that the name of the tip, or the shape? :scratchhead:








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