Making a Runde cue a little heavier

greyghost said:
by the way is the red stuff in the buttcap the epoxy? or is that just felt fuzz lol?

how have you tried taking it off? and are you sure its epoxy? it is possible that its a wood glue or elmers?

have you tried lightly hitting it with a cordless impact or hammer on a lower setting? with a bit that fits the screw (to prevent stripping it)?

ive had to to this before on cues....if your careful it wont hurt it.....i mean dont hook up the fastenall you change your tires with lmfao.....cordless is great with adj settings.
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That red stuff is hard as glass.
Yes I tried with a regular screwdriver and tried hard and it wouldn't budge.
Won't even make little cracking sounds.

If I can do the washers or fish line sinker that might help.

Although as the above poster said, that's just going to add more weight at the very back.
NOT ideal but I guess it's better than playing with an 18 oz cue.......for me.
 
With my base come with my extension, you can add 3/4 oz as you want. I mean, I can make base bumper with your request weight.
Thanks.
 
9Ballr said:
Are you talking about one of these?

https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_...h=i:sports-and-fitness,k:1+oz+fishing+weights
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yes....the 1oz are actually 13/16ths wide by 5/16 thick....snip the little brass end off.

drill hole for your screw.....and if you put the buttcap in the freezer it can be turned down better.....

also keep a can of feather duster around for that so while i'm turning I can get the wah wahs lol...just kidding, ill turn it upside down and freeze shot the rubber so it machines better as my freezers not sub zero or nothing.


so a fella could say get an extra bumper do this and not ever have to piss around with screwing up a cue he has no buisiness trying to work on.....

shit i should make some like this and sell them on here? but someone else will probably beat me to it lol.
 
greyghost said:
why dont you like the lighter cue by the way?
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I like the way a 19-20 oz cue goes through the ball much more effortlessly. Again, for me!
Just don't like the way an 18 oz cue feels it seems to stop more at impact and there's more
'smack' than a smooth flowing follow through.
Kinda like the old "truck vs. car" sample from your physics class hitting a wall.
I'm good with 19, or slightly less up to about 20.
18 is too light for me.
 
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Runde

I can be pretty sure Bob didnt do that. Iknow he might have put somthing on a bolt ,but would never of poured epoxy under a bumper like that. I have cues he made before he and Terry started Schon.
 
9Ballr said:
I like the way a 19-20 oz cue goes through the ball much more effortlessly. Again, for me!
Just don't like the way an 18 oz cue feels it seems to stop more at impact and there's more
'smack' than a smooth flowing follow through.
Kinda like the old "truck vs. car" sample from your physics class hitting a wall.
I'm good with 19, or slightly less up to about 20.
18 is too light for me.
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Changing the weight can be tricky and keeping good balance ,, ,, what shaft and what collar and pin do you have now ,, I would be more inclined to add weight forward than backward ,,

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9Ballr said:
Super suggestions.

I was also thinking about going to the Home Depot and get a few
washers and a longer bumper bolt, the bumper is screwed into
the middle of this weight bolt. You can see the hole in it.
But this would only add weight at the very back.
Might be worth the try though.
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9Baller.

I did exactly that to my cue 5 yrs ago, it worked great. My cue had a flat butt and a plastic cap that screwed into the middle like yours. The diameter is 1 1/4" and there are heavy duty washers exactly that dia. The ones wit the gold finish on them work well. You could also use coins if they fit. A better idea though is the Balance Rite extension you can get in 4" and 2" and adds one to two ounces to the middle of your cue.
I bought one and use it every time I play, also know several players that love them. Look it up, about $35.
 
one stroke said:
Changing the weight can be tricky and keeping good balance ,, ,, what shaft and what collar and pin do you have now ,, I would be more inclined to add weight forward than backward ,,

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Considering I prefer a forward weighted cue anyway I like that idea.
The shaft I'm using on this cue is a Runde shaft, regular solid maple. I'm not an LD guy in the least.

The shaft weight is 3.5 oz.
If I could get a shaft that's 3/4 of an ounce or a full ounce heavier that would be great.......I suppose
 
darmoose said:
9Baller.

I did exactly that to my cue 5 yrs ago, it worked great. My cue had a flat butt and a plastic cap that screwed into the middle like yours. The diameter is 1 1/4" and there are heavy duty washers exactly that dia. The ones wit the gold finish on them work well. You could also use coins if they fit. A better idea though is the Balance Rite extension you can get in 4" and 2" and adds one to two ounces to the middle of your cue.
I bought one and use it every time I play, also know several players that love them. Look it up, about $35.
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That's an excellent idea, AND gives me reason to spend more money on pool stuff and buy new things....lol.
Worst part, I'm NOT being sarcastic.....haha

I've read somewhere that the balance rite can cause things go get crooked and the cue to not roll straight but I suppose it's worth the try.
Others have told me the cue feels much more numb and most of the cue's feeling is gone after using the balance rite.

The joint is 3/8x10.
I'll get this.
Might be an easy solution and it'll get the weight more in the front as opposed to the very back.

Thanks
 
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9Ballr said:
That's an excellent idea, AND gives me reason to spend more money on pool stuff and buy new things....lol.
Worst part, I'm NOT being sarcastic.....haha

I've read somewhere that the balance rite can cause things go get crooked and the cue to not roll straight but I suppose it's worth the try.
Others have told me the cue feels much more numb and most of the cue's feeling is gone after using the balance rite.

The joint is 3/8x10.
I'll get this.
Might be an easy solution and it'll get the weight more in the front as opposed to the very back.

Thanks
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Although adding weight in the middle of the cue does add the weight, you should know that it should not change the way the cue feels in your stroking hand because no weight would be added there. It will add length and create a more forward balance, but if I read you post correctly, you are looking to add weight to the butt of the cue - not sure if this will accomplish that alone. You may want to add 1/4-1/2 oz to the butt of the cue as well using the methods others have suggested.

Personally, I have always found that if you want to add 3/4 - 1 oz to the butt, it gets too heavy felly if I add all that weight in the buttcap area, what has worked is get multiple smaller weights and gradually add the weight until it feels good to you. If it feels a little heavy, it's easy to remove a little weight.

Good luck.

Dave.
 
12squared said:
what has worked is get multiple smaller weights and gradually add the weight until it feels good to you. If it feels a little heavy, it's easy to remove a little weight.
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What are those "multiple smaller weights"?
Are you talking about the washers?
The fish line sinkers?
 
I asked this same question a few years ago and it was suggested to heat up the bolt with a large soldering iron applied with direct contact onto the bolt, specifically by sticking the tip of the iron into the hole on the bolt and holding it there until the bolt heats up slightly. As it slowly heats up you try to loosen up the bolt. I never tried it because I ended up selling the cue, but I bet it would work..
 
9Ballr said:
What are those "multiple smaller weights"?
Are you talking about the washers?
The fish line sinkers?
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Yes, any of the above that you find would work. I have used washers to allow the set screw for the bumper like yours (weighing them each) not worrying how it looks, just an inexpensive, versatile way to find that "right feel". For cues where the push in bumpers where there is no weight bolt available (Murrell; Southwest; Jensen to name a few), I used fishing weights that I could simply wrap in paper towel so there's no movement or noise. The beauty of all these methods is that none are permanent so as conditions change or the feel changes because of a different shaft you can easily make adjustments. cheap and very flexible options all.

Once you know what feels right, you can think of a way to make a more permanent adjustment keeping so the bumper would not stick out too much if it bothers you. (maybe using lead tape leaving the hole for the set screw that would be a much thinner solution, but it's a pain to do this step first because it's not as flexible.

Again, good luck. You have gotten plenty of good ideas to work with from many of the posters.

Dave
 
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