Making milkdud tips

Mole Eye said:
Just out of curiosity, having never used an Elkmaster or a milk dud, what does the soaking and pressing do for the tip to make it better?
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Elk masters are very soft tips, the end result is a tip that is harder, but still has the good qualities of the original tip. They don't tend to mushroom, hold their shape, take chalk well, and play very well.

I think the ones from pooldawg8 play as good as any tip I've tried.
 
Milk has a natural bonding agent in it called casein.

When you compress it, the bonding agent (casein) bonds the fibres to the new shape (much harder) but creates a lot more action from the tip.

You can compress it to different levels for various results (hardness and grip).
 
Mole Eye said:
Just out of curiosity, having never used an Elkmaster or a milk dud, what does the soaking and pressing do for the tip to make it better?
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makes it harder and prevents it from mushrooming

plays a little more like a layered tip and only costs 50¢ + time and materials that you probably already have
 
Mole Eye said:
Just out of curiosity, having never used an Elkmaster or a milk dud, what does the soaking and pressing do for the tip to make it better?
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It seems to be a little known fact that all it really does is save time... about 18 months.

Back when this was still America, and every champion would only play with Champion Tips,
I happened on a used cue with what I thought to be a Champion tip, based on how it hit,
turns out it was a humble Elk Master that had been played with for a few hundred hours.
Over the course of that time it had pounded down, mushroomed, been re-trimmed and re-shaped
3 or 4 times, and emerged as a slow grow Milk Dud.

FWIW - George Rood, legendary 9 Ball world beater, preferred Elk Masters,
I guess he knew something we all didn't.

Dale
 
Shockerz said:
Half Milk / Half Water?
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no, like the "half and half" that you get at the supermarket—half milk half cream

basically I use whatever milk product is in my fridge at the time hahaha, though I did thin out the half/half with a little water because I was worried the viscosity would prevent it from soaking into the tip (no idea if this fear is well founded or not).
 
pdcue said:
It seems to be a little known fact that all it really does is save time... about 18 months.

Back when this was still America, and every champion would only play with Champion Tips,
I happened on a used cue with what I thought to be a Champion tip, based on how it hit,
turns out it was a humble Elk Master that had been played with for a few hundred hours.
Over the course of that time it had pounded down, mushroomed, been re-trimmed and re-shaped
3 or 4 times, and emerged as a slow grow Milk Dud.

FWIW - George Rood, legendary 9 Ball world beater, preferred Elk Masters,
I guess he knew something we all didn't.

Dale
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Which gives me an idea.
Glue on some drill blank.
Hammer drill the fkk out of it.
Then remove the tip.
Presto!

Efren and Busti grew up on Elk Master. Efren used to bring his own elk masters. He had one installed on his cue one time.
He told me he suspects the installer stole his tip and replaced with another one.
Efren's infamous $15 cue had an Elk Master tip.
Efren did not even buy that cue. He won it on a money match down in the islands. He used it as a break cue b/c the monster was some 21 oz.
The elk master hardened up and he liked to play with it.
It then became his playing cue. That ugly monster ( complete with painted on checks and crooked inlayed points, painted on snake skin..etc. .We called it the nail polished checkered rings as a joke ) went on to win the US Open, World 8-ball and World 9-Ball.
 
Over The Years......

I have experimented with cat piss, human piss, wine and beer but found that yes, mild does work but you need a special built press......really
 
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