Making your opponents shoot every shot or concede out of respect?

Exactly. At worst case it could become a mind game but only if your mind is weak enough to let it happen. And if your mind is that fragile you should not be gambling anyways. This is one of the strangest threads I've ever seen.

It seems many here would never concede a shot and consider it sharking. So why is it that you frequently see professionals concede shots to each other yet I've never seen an argument break out where the shooter accuses their opponent of sharking or unsportsmanlike conduct. They always seem to accept the concession in the spirit it was offered - gentlemanly. And you know darn well pros will make an issue of it if they think they are being sharked.
 
It's not sharking unless you fall into this trap of a thread...

The concept of sharking has me thinking. I NEVER want to do that to a player, but is that in fact what I'm doing???

I never would concede a match, but I will sometimes concede a game during a match, especially if it's early on. Now I would never step up, wipe the balls or anything like that. Just simply say 'That's good.'

My reasoning as I've been taught is to not give your opponent the confidence of making that final ball. Is that sharking? If so, I'll stop, no questions.
 
You made such a stink in earlier posts and now this? Step off

See there you go quoting me again, let me try to explain it to you one more time, it is a question of intent. When I am playing around with my buddies I am not playing mind games with them, mild or otherwise. I am giving them a compliment, trying to speed things along and socializing with them in a "good times" atmosphere.

I have no intention and would not not concede at later time in the night or match. I do not, have not and will not ever use concession as a tactic to affect the outcome of a game or match, I don't know how to be more clear.
 
Oh, I got you. You are a superior carbon based life formand you stay wound up pretty tight about certain things.
and like to look down your nose at the rest of us lesser humans. You also like to use very large fonts because you think people will finally listen to what you are typing.

See there you go quoting me again, let me try to explain it to you one more time, it is a question of intent. When I am playing around with my buddies I am not playing mind games with them, mild or otherwise. I am giving them a compliment, trying to speed things along and socializing with them in a "good times" atmosphere.

I have no intention and would not not concede at later time in the night or match. I do not, have not and will not ever use concession as a tactic to affect the outcome of a game or match, I don't know how to be more clear.
 
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Can you guys just hug it out?

Yeah, I don't mind hugging PGH. He's from PA and so am I .

FYI, just watched Brandon Shuff concede 3 balls at the Emerald Billiards event where his amateur opponent has ball in hand. And both players have conceded each 9 ball. It happens all the time. No one really seems to care except a few people. Best if we all just agree to disagree that it's an act of moral turpitude.
 
With all due respect that's not what you said, you said BIH on the 9 not scratch on the 9 and you didn't specify in what situation it was in, for me there is a difference. What if you scratch on the 8 and your opponent is on the 9 with BIH and the 9 is frozen to the long rail 3 1/2 diamonds up the long rail? Do you make him shoot it in a tournament? This is the kind of situation that comes to mind for me, not making my buddy shoot the 9 if I scratch; that to me is a different universe.



My initial response was to a poster that said he would make his opponent shoot the 9 in, if he made it and scratched. Or, at least that is what i believe he was talking about. Don't want to get into a tit for tat over when to make your opponent shoot off the 9 or not. To each his own.

My answer is based on what I would do if I were gambling. I don't play in tournaments and I don't play fun pool. Sometimes I concede the 9, sometimes I don't. But, I think making him shoot it in when he has ball-in-hand is pointless (unless it's frozen on the side pocket tittie). Thats just my opinion after playing for many years.
 
Conceding the last ball should not be a disrespectul action. I like people to concede when they play against me cause it makes me feel like they are KO and counted. If they are enjoying this feeling, let them come...
On the other side conceding a game to a weak player will give him more confidence and if next time he needs to shoot he'll probably miss 70%. The last shot is the most important in the whole game, if you don't have the chance to shoot you'll become loose and relaxed. That's exactly what the opponent needs to beat you.

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The Rules should be clear

In a tournament setting there is no difference at all, he has to sink the 9ball to win, no ifs ands or buts. This is not true of social situations when I am playing around with my buddies.



I am as I said not going to make him shoot it in either case always, it is situational; the biggest difference is the position of the 9 ball; if it is a scratch on the 9 it is returned to the spot,a scratch on the 8 and the 9 reamins in place. There are places that the 9ball can be resting that are of lower % than the foot spot. The worst place I can think of is frozen to the long rail not close enough to push through the point and make it in the side.

As I said this is a judgement/situational call with the exception of within a tournament setting in that case my policy is to have him shoot, my policy is in social situations exactly the other way around, in that situation my policy is to concede with few exceptions.

The rules were clear on the Pro Tour, "if you concede a ball in a game you will lose that game and one additional game".....I like that rule and think it's fair across the board....Each player MUST shoot every ball unless it's the last game and then you can concede that match (which you can do at any time), however, I still think, depending on the circumstances the player should have the opportunity to make the last ball....jmho ;)
 
With all due respect that's not what you said, you said BIH on the 9 not scratch on the 9 and you didn't specify in what situation it was in, for me there is a difference. What if you scratch on the 8 and your opponent is on the 9 with BIH and the 9 is frozen to the long rail 3 1/2 diamonds up the long rail? Do you make him shoot it in a tournament? This is the kind of situation that comes to mind for me, not making my buddy shoot the 9 if I scratch; that to me is a different universe.



My initial response was to a poster that said he would make his opponent shoot the 9 in, if he made it and scratched. Or, at least that is what i believe he was talking about. Don't want to get into a tit for tat over when to make your opponent shoot off the 9 or not. To each his own.

My answer is based on what I would do if I were gambling. I don't play in tournaments and I don't play fun pool. Sometimes I concede the 9, sometimes I don't. But, I think making him shoot it in when he has ball-in-hand is pointless (unless it's frozen on the side pocket tittie). Thats just my opinion after playing for many years.

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