@ Marboys.... 33:39 Chua's shot to Get back Up Table

Yes and no, if he hit above the ball he caromed off of, he'd of cleared it and gone two more rails, having a shot at his next ball.
It's a two way shape shot.
 
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ok thanks i see 3:33:39
you’re right great shot, he does some
amazing things as a top tier player

to me, this is the kind of thing that efren
was talking about when he said he learned
from watching beginners playing poorly-

the caroms and bounces can make
some miraculous things happen
 
ok thanks i see 3:33:39
you’re right great shot, he does some
amazing things as a top tier player

to me, this is the kind of thing that efren
was talking about when he said he learned
from watching beginners playing poorly-

the caroms and bounces can make
some miraculous things happen
Yep, that's what I was getting at.... the subtilties that occur within their game are important.
 
Yep, that's what I was getting at.... the subtilties that occur within their game are important.
If you ever listen to classic instructions, be it in a book or old school player/instructor, they always say to never run into another ball. I find it annoying when this advice is given. Students take it as gospel but in reality it's situational, but they often don't say this. This might be true in many situations, but running into another ball is an overlooked skill. You can use it to stop the CB/send it a different direction off the carom, push problem balls into better spots, cause a 9 ball to "slop" in, re-direct a ball to a safe spot, etc.

Obviously don't want to run into a ball carelessly because it can cause problems, but a lot of times it's very useful. And if there's a good chance you will run into a ball "accidentally," then purposely run into it in the right spot with the correct speed to clear the problem.

I'm not the best player by any means, but I really like looking for little opportunities like this. Often in 9B you will come to the table with little opportunity. Careful observation and some creativity can get you out of the weeds. If you can keep the CB safe should you miss, you can often find little 2 way shots that involve caroms/billiards/tickies etc that have a decent chance to make something. It's percentages, but if you give 3 balls a 25% chance and keep the CB safe you might get another inning. All situational of course, but by defaulting to never run into balls you can miss out on some opportunities.
 
But, if he'd of just missed it, which was in his wheel house thinking, cue ball woulda gone two rails for shape, long rail to long rail.

My generation always called it a ''two way shot''.
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But, if he'd of just missed it, which was in his wheel house thinking, cue ball woulda gone two rails for shape, long rail to long rail.

My generation always called it a ''two way shot''.

Maybe tongue in cheek - I consider that one too random; not at all like grazing the long rail to leave the ball on the short.
 
What he did make sure of, that he'd come up short, not allowing the side pocket scratch.
 
I watched the match live, and when he hit this shot, I thought, "What the hell just happened?" I replayed it a few times.

I don't think Chua was trying to do a Z shot. He was sizing up a carom off the 8 ball to get the cue ball on the right side of the table. The 6-ball blocked the top right pocket and he wanted to shoot the 5 into the top left.

Instead he got position on the 5 to the left side. The cue ball ran a bit too far and did not come off the short rail enough.

So yeah, some luck involved.

When Chua is in great form, he attempts and makes shots most other players either don't see or would not attempt.

Chua has been in the best form of his life since the WPC ...
 
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I watched the match live, and when he hit this shot, I thought, "What the hell just happened?" I replayed it a few times.

Chua was not trying to do a Z shot. He was clearly sizing up a carom off the 8 ball to get the cue ball on the right side of the table. The 6-ball blocked the top right pocket and he wanted to shoot the 5 into the top left.

Instead he got position on the 5 to the left side. The cue ball ran a bit too far and did not come off the short rail enough.

So yeah, some luck involved.

When Chua is in great form, he attempts and makes shots most other players either don't see or would not attempt.

Chua has been in the best form of his life since the WPC ...
Those shots are common when play 15 ball rotation. I agree that he played position from carom. Nothing special for rotation player. There are so many paths blocked that playing position from carom is common.
 
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