mcworter gold ring deco

iconcue said:
mcworter gold ring deco

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mcworter gold ring deco
VERY NICE, i might get the 1516 or 1250, nice cue, artistic. ;)
 
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jerrys work is flawless!and design is always fresh! you need to post the wrapless venetian that one blows my mind!! ;)
 
Jeff,

Would you be interested in doing a thread about giving us lessons in cue photography?

I have a pretty good camera - it's a Canon G6 7.1 megapixel with Speedlite flash and diffuser, and I have light stands, a tripod, etc. I get nowhere near the quality of photos you get.

If Interested, lets do a separate thread right here in cue gallery.

Interested?

Chris
 
cornerstone said:
jerrys work is flawless!and design is always fresh! you need to post the wrapless venetian that one blows my mind!! ;)

Hi Bill,

It was really nice talking with you the other day. I ended up with the Palmer "M" you told me the story about. We all paid a little more than you did!

Chris
 
Two thoughts come to mind . . . . .

1. Will you stop FRIGGIN' showing off with the pics already?!?!?!? j/k, 'cuz I love your pics! I second Chris' suggestion about a taking pictures thread.

2. For CNC work, I think Jerry knocks them out of the ball park. Jeez, his designs are just super. And, like conerstone said, his execution is flawless.

Gorgeous cue. :cool:
 
TATE said:
Jeff,

Would you be interested in doing a thread about giving us lessons in cue photography?

I have a pretty good camera - it's a Canon G6 7.1 megapixel with Speedlite flash and diffuser, and I have light stands, a tripod, etc. I get nowhere near the quality of photos you get.

If Interested, lets do a separate thread right here in cue gallery.

Interested?

Chris


chris........diffusers are useless. because of the nature of cues,,,their cylindrical shape, their length, their shiny surface, they will always catch source light from diffusers. diffusers SOFTEN light, which is great in general and especially for portrait work,,,but the source light remains strong, whether you use an umbrella or light box, you still have a strong SOURCE. that source will always reflect on a long, shiny, cylinder.

what you have to do is position the light TO THE SIDE of your cue. now you can shoot your cue straight on. i'm sure you've noticed that you can eliminate reflection(with your setup) by angling the cue away from you. you are shifting the light source away from the camera.

http://azbilliards.com/vbulletin/upload/showthread.php?t=15136&page=3&pp=15
 
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bruin70 said:
chris........diffusers are useless. because of the nature of cues,,,their cylindrical shape, their length, their shiny surface, they will always catch source light from diffusers. diffusers SOFTEN light, which is great in general and especially for portrait work,,,but the source light remains strong, whether you use an umbrella or light box, you still have a strong SOURCE. that source will always reflect on a long, shiny, cylinder.

what you have to do is position the light TO THE SIDE of your cue. now you can shoot your cue straight on. i'm sure you've noticed that you can eliminate reflection(with your setup) by angling the cue away from you. you are shifting the light source away from the camera.

http://azbilliards.com/vbulletin/upload/showthread.php?t=15136&page=3&pp=15

Hi Bruin - OK, I'll try that, thanks for the tip. Here I have all this nice equipment and I still take bad pictures.

Chris
 
bruin70 said:
chris........diffusers are useless. because of the nature of cues,,,their cylindrical shape, their length, their shiny surface, they will always catch source light from diffusers. diffusers SOFTEN light, which is great in general and especially for portrait work,,,but the source light remains strong, whether you use an umbrella or light box, you still have a strong SOURCE. that source will always reflect on a long, shiny, cylinder.

what you have to do is position the light TO THE SIDE of your cue. now you can shoot your cue straight on. i'm sure you've noticed that you can eliminate reflection(with your setup) by angling the cue away from you. you are shifting the light source away from the camera.

http://azbilliards.com/vbulletin/upload/showthread.php?t=15136&page=3&pp=15

What do you think of these pics? I tried setting up as you suggested, cues on a pool table, 2 lights about 7' high at angle, no flash, auto exposure, tripod.

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TATE said:
What do you think of these pics? I tried setting up as you suggested, cues on a pool table, 2 lights about 7' high at angle, no flash, auto exposure, tripod.

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you've eliminated the glare from the source light, but i see reflection in the ebony areas. it's probably you, or you have light walls or there are an array of shapes behind you. one thing you might try is to put a huge dark cloth behind the camera to eliminate these reflections. i use a black silk-type cloth on a rod. it is very light in weight so i can hold it up behind the camera with one hand.

also,,,,you can get better detail than that. i use a canon g3(4 megapixel). http://azbilliards.com/vbulletin/upload/showthread.php?t=16544
you should be getting twice the size magnification that i get. set your f-stop to its smallest. mine can only go to f8. the smaller the f-stop the sharper the detailing.

i use 300W halogens, but the brighter you use, the better clarity. if you can float your cue, the better. i didn't. so you can see the cloth reflection as the cue curves away.
 
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iconcue said:
thanks for pic compliments. i would make the worst teacher in the world though! i go more by instincts than technical knowledge. and i am extremely impatient so you wouldnt learn much from me.
bruin has much more knowledge on setup and lighting.
bru i think you ought to do one of those adobe diagrams you do showing placement of cue and lighting for optimum photo set up. :cool:
*added butt of mcworter photo above

your setup is like,,,,perfect. to the point where your cue looks absolutely flat with no sign or curvature. btw,,,,,i like the second pic with the double imagery. excellent! it's the best one you've done!!!!
 
Fantastic Cue... and great information here. WOW. Now I'm a definitely a Mcworter fan!
 
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ScottR said:
Two thoughts come to mind . . . . .

1. Will you stop FRIGGIN' showing off with the pics already?!?!?!? j/k, 'cuz I love your pics! I second Chris' suggestion about a taking pictures thread.

2. For CNC work, I think Jerry knocks them out of the ball park. Jeez, his designs are just super. And, like conerstone said, his execution is flawless.

Gorgeous cue. :cool:
you make cnc sound like a bad thing. 95% of all cumakers have cnc , but it is how they execute it look at jerrys point work no round edges look at his victorian cue and (besides thomas wayne ) I dont think there is anyone in the industry that can come close to that!jerry mcworter thomas wayne and rick chudy have taken cuemaking to a new limit, with design and execuion and its a wonderful change. It has opened up doors for new collectors that have not been interested in the common cue !I like where the cue industry is going also richard Black has broken into the art industry with the muesuem show!as for cnc if its rounded I dont want it! thank you Bill
 
bruin70 said:
you've eliminated the glare from the source light, but i see reflection in the ebony areas. it's probably you, or you have light walls or there are an array of shapes behind you. one thing you might try is to put a huge dark cloth behind the camera to eliminate these reflections. i use a black silk-type cloth on a rod. it is very light in weight so i can hold it up behind the camera with one hand.

also,,,,you can get better detail than that. i use a canon g3(4 megapixel). http://azbilliards.com/vbulletin/upload/showthread.php?t=16544
you should be getting twice the size magnification that i get. set your f-stop to its smallest. mine can only go to f8. the smaller the f-stop the sharper the detailing.

i use 300W halogens, but the brighter you use, the better clarity. if you can float your cue, the better. i didn't. so you can see the cloth reflection as the cue curves away.

Thanks for the tips. I'll try moving to an area with less reflection. The wall behind me is white, plus the pool table cloth has a sheen to it - which reflects as well. I might go to the camera shop to se if they have a background I can use.

Chris
 
TATE said:
Thanks for the tips. I'll try moving to an area with less reflection. The wall behind me is white, plus the pool table cloth has a sheen to it - which reflects as well. I might go to the camera shop to se if they have a background I can use.

Chris

get something cheap. camera shops cost. someplace that sells clothes material? i got mine at pottery barn,,,,a black silken window drape.. btw,,,makes sure your canon is set to "L" for your file size format.
 
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cornerstone said:
you make cnc sound like a bad thing. 95% of all cumakers have cnc , but it is how they execute it look at jerrys point work no round edges look at his victorian cue and (besides thomas wayne ) I dont think there is anyone in the industry that can come close to that!jerry mcworter thomas wayne and rick chudy have taken cuemaking to a new limit, with design and execuion and its a wonderful change. It has opened up doors for new collectors that have not been interested in the common cue !I like where the cue industry is going also richard Black has broken into the art industry with the muesuem show!as for cnc if its rounded I dont want it! thank you Bill
You hit it on the head,,these guys blow the rest of them away,,its like a 3 horse race,,,the others wonder when will their imagination kick in
 
the race is on!

SmoothStroke said:
You hit it on the head,,these guys blow the rest of them away,,its like a 3 horse race,,,the others wonder when will their imagination kick in
I have been telling people that for a while!!!
 
cornerstone said:
ScottR said:
For CNC work, I think Jerry knocks them out of the ball park. Jeez, his designs are just super. And, like conerstone said, his execution is flawless.

you make cnc sound like a bad thing. 95% of all cumakers have cnc , but it is how they execute it look at jerrys point work no round edges look at his victorian cue and (besides thomas wayne )

I believe you are both saying exactly the same thing.

Fred
 
apology

Fred Agnir said:
I believe you are both saying exactly the same thing.

Fred
Iam truly sorry if i came across wrong , my intentions were to inform!! hope my apology is accepted if i offended any one! Bill :)
 
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