Measles cue ball harder to draw???!!!!????

Hit some around with the measels ball last night I really liked the way it moved around the table. Did NOT have a problem drawing it back, I was actually drawing it to far. After reading this post I thought i'd have to really juice it and was actually over drawing shots. Really like it though very fun to play with. It's a very cool product

Just my .02
 
drivermaker said:
Where can the information be found about the manufacturing process of this ball? I'm trying to figure out how they'd do that without an inner core. As far as I know, it's solid and one piece.
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Being the injection molding guru that I am, I'll see if I can find some information on the manufacture of said product.
 
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Hal said:
After browsing through our extensive directory of billiards equipment vendors, we noticed the same strange phrase popping up -- thermoset resin. A few Google web searches and online dictionary consultations later, we discovered the secret of pool balls.
"Thermoset" is an adjective used to describe synthetic substances that set permanently when heated. And resin, in addition to being the sticky stuff that comes out of trees, is a "solid or liquid synthetic organic polymer used as the basis of plastics, adhesives, varnishes, etc."

As it turns out, billiard balls have played a vital role in the creation of polymers, or synthetic plastics. An interesting tidbit from the Polymer Selection Database explains:

One of the first developments of plastics was as a replacement to ivory billard balls, due to the dwindling supply of ivory. As far back as 1866, elephants were being slaughtered at an alarming rate to keep up with the demand for ivory billiard balls, billards having become America's favorite pastime.
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The question still remains...how would the outer portion of a CB be heavier than any other ball on the table or any other CB unless it had a core or was done in a two part process with different materials being used for the outer and inner half of the ball?
 
drivermaker said:
The question still remains...how would the outer portion of a CB be heavier than any other ball on the table or any other CB unless it had a core or was done in a two part process with different materials being used for the outer and inner half of the ball?
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If..., and it is a stretch, the dot inlays were made of a denser material, is the only way it could happen. I doubt, that the balls are more dense on the outer part.

Tracy
 
RSB-Refugee said:
If..., and it is a stretch, the dot inlays were made of a denser material, is the only way it could happen. I doubt, that the balls are more dense on the outer part.

Tracy
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I would think it's only a small amount of dye. Wouldn't the colored dye and numbers on a regular ball be worse?
 
drivermaker said:
I would think it's only a small amount of dye. Wouldn't the colored dye and numbers on a regular ball be worse?
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I didn't say the dots were heavier. You asked, 'how could it be heavier?' I said, how it could be, but not that it is. I was basically saying, that I feel the weight is evenly distributed.

Tracy
 
RSB-Refugee said:
I was basically saying, that I feel the weight is evenly distributed.

Tracy
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Me too. I was very surprised to see so many people agree that it's harder to draw. I still don't believe it. I also agree that the weight is probably evenly distributed.
 
When the "measle" ball first came out, I purchased one from Mueller's.
It came in it's own plastic packaging and cost $13.99 + shipping.

I believe there was a thread on the weight of this ball awhile back but, reading all of this post, I must add my opinion.
My "measle" ball has an ever so slightly yellow tint to it, just like my red circle ball. Both balls are light weight and draw to the cow's come home.

Recently a kid came into the pool room, showing me his new $34.99 "measle" ball that he had just purchased.

His ball was significantly different from my ball. It was very white and slightly more heavy. It had a nasty bright white color to it and held more chalk after each shot, and the ball played different because of the weight.

I was then extremely happy to have purchased the first version of this ball, because this new, heavy more white ball, really sucks.

This has to be the ball you guys are talking about.

I saw Johnny Archer asking the referee to pick-up the ball and wipe off a chalk mark in the middle of a match on T.V. (repeatedly)

Anyway, I've seen with my own eyes....they made 2 versions.


Karate-
 
I was then extremely happy to have purchased the first version of this ball, because this new, heavy more white ball, really sucks.
Ouch!
I'm gonna cut up mine and make ferrules out of them. :D
 
JoeyInCali said:
I was then extremely happy to have purchased the first version of this ball, because this new, heavy more white ball, really sucks.
Ouch!
I'm gonna cut up mine and make ferrules out of them. :D
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Yea, then you can market the red dot on the ferrule, like moochie on the shaft. :D

Rod
 
masonh said:
the measles cue ball has more weight towards the outside of the ball than the other cueballs.it may weigh the same but the weight is distibuted throughout the ball differently(more to the outside) that is why it is a little harder to draw and rolls out a little longer.personally i find it distracting.the dots that is.
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First, I don't think the weight is unevenly distributed. Why do you believe that it is?

Second, if there is more weight on the surface, you would get better draw, not worse. Have you ever played with a hula hoop? All the weight on the rim gets more effect from the spin.
 
Measle vs Blue circle vs Red circle

drivermaker said:
That's because the logo CB is also a hair lighter, than the playing balls.
(1 gram) The red circle is 3-4 grams lighter than the playing balls.

If you're losing your focus due to a measles ball, I don't think you're focused strongly enough for starters. I now use the measles exclusively and don't even notice the markings when lining up the shot or elsewhere.
I just like it because it's weighted exactly the same as the playing balls.
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Thank you for this post,
I have a set Super Aramith Pro with Measle CB, Brunswick Centennial with Blue circle CB and a off-white Red circle CB....all have approx. same playing time.
For comparison I have just measured diameter and weighed all....results below.
Aramith Measle CB and OB's: 2.250" dia., 165 grams
Cetennial Blue circle CB and OB's: 2.250" dia., 165 grams
off-white Red circle CB: 2.230-2.235" dia. 160 grams
Of course a smaller and lighter CB may in fact draw easier.
For example.... try using a ping-pong ball as a CB....you may even be able to draw and curve on same shoot.
 
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lamar25 said:
Thank you for this post,
I have a set Super Aramith Pro with Measle CB, Brunswick Centennial with Blue circle CB and a off-white Red circle CB....all have approx. same playing time.
For comparison I have just measured diameter and weighed all....results below.
Aramith Measle CB and OB's: 2.250" dia., 165 grams
Cetennial Blue circle CB and OB's: 2.250" dia., 165 grams
off-white Red circle CB: 2.300-2.350" dia. 160 grams
Of course a smaller and lighter CB may in fact draw easier.
For example.... try using a ping-pong ball as a CB....you may even be able to draw and curve on same shoot.
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Red Circle larger than Blue Circle?
 
Sorry about that I goofed

JoeyInCali said:
Red Circle larger than Blue Circle?
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Thank you Joey for catching my mistake, I mis-typed the size of the red circle CB. IT is smaller.
Change to read 2.230 - 2.235" dia. ( .015 - .020" dia. smaller ).
Will try to revise my post.

Thanks again, Lamar
 
1st time I played w/"spottys" was @ a local 9-ball tournament and they were Brand New right out of the box!!!

Call me crazy, but while practicing with it a bit the hit on "spotty" felt real light like hitting a Red Circle but then it reacted and played heavy (like a Centennial Blue Circle). I don't know any other way to explain it or why... that's how it felt truly. I use a stainless steel jointed cue too. NE1 have the same experience or impression, or am I totally nuts?!!! :confused:

A fine player did tell me - @ the same tourney - the reason those q balls were hard to draw was because they were still "slick", tended to slide and didn't grab like a broken in/worn q ball. I didn't say it... he did.. I thought it made sense.
 
JAM said:
It was then explained that this was a "new" cue-ball for TV use, in hopes that on TV it will display spin and the like for the spectators. So the red-dotted cue-ball made its debut at the 2003 Open, at least here in the States, and this was the first time either of them hit one. And here they were fighting for their very survival at the Open in the TV pit. After the match, they both agreed that it moved and reacted the same as the other non-spotted cue-ball.

JAM
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Hey Jam,

I actually have that match on DVD. In the post match interview, Buddy said the ball "was a good idea but not up to the standard of other top quality balls" He went on to say that the ball deflected a lot more. Also, at one point during the match didn't Keith pretend that he wanted to throw the ball away?
 
Several things to conseder

F8it said:
1st time I played w/"spottys" was @ a local 9-ball tournament and they were Brand New right out of the box!!!

Call me crazy, but while practicing with it a bit the hit on "spotty" felt real light like hitting a Red Circle but then it reacted and played heavy (like a Centennial Blue Circle). I don't know any other way to explain it or why... that's how it felt truly. I use a stainless steel jointed cue too. NE1 have the same experience or impression, or am I totally nuts?!!! :confused:

A fine player did tell me - @ the same tourney - the reason those q balls were hard to draw was because they were still "slick", tended to slide and didn't grab like a broken in/worn q ball. I didn't say it... he did.. I thought it made sense.
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Thank you for your comments.... he made a valid point.
Old felt plays different from new felt....clean/polished balls plays different from dirty/sticky balls....the humidity in the poolroom (damp felt plays different from dry felt)....different makes of tables play different....very confusing....but; if you notice, all the better players have learned to adjust to all conditions....and the one that adjusts the best wins the tourney....good luck is also a factor.
Thanks, Lamar
 
All pool players blaim something

Fleece3 said:
Hey Jam,

I actually have that match on DVD. In the post match interview, Buddy said the ball "was a good idea but not up to the standard of other top quality balls" He went on to say that the ball deflected a lot more. Also, at one point during the match didn't Keith pretend that he wanted to throw the ball away?
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Buddy complains about everthing.
Lamar
 
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