Measuring Break Speed

macguy said:
The problem is, you don't know that the cue ball is not still accelerating when it pass were the 1 ball would be and you get want would be a faster speed measurement then if you only shot to where the balls are racked.

This is not a problem as the CB does not accelerate after leaving the tip it only slows down.
 
Colin Colenso said:
You can take the end rail off the table and measure where the CB hits the ground or how high it hits the wall. You could also do it off a bench of similar height to a pool table outside.

Take the approrpriate measurements accurately and some physics nerd here can likely do the appropriate calculations.

btw: I doubt a video recorder will be much good unless you have a camera that shoots over 100 frames per second.


While you have the end rail off try this. Hit the cue ball and wait for 1 hour. Measure how many miles it travels. Piece of cake.
 
I am doing some research & development on a LASER BEAM break shot speed measuring device. It will be on the market in September. It will also be affordable.
 
9 ball said:
Can anyone on this forum tell me what is the best way to measure your break speed if you canno't get a hold of a speed gun cos I would really like to find out what my max break is in MPH.
If a ball park estimate is good enough, you can use the following guideline on a nine foot table with a cloth speed of approximately 100 and "normal" cushions.

Starting with a centerball hit, and with the cueball at the foot or head spot and shooting straight toward the far cushion, then given an initial speed of 16 mph the ball should travel four table lengths, moving about a half-diamond away from the last cushion before coming to rest. For every two mph greater than 16, the ball should travel an additional two diamonds from the fourth cushion. So at 20 mph it would reach the cushion closest to you and then move about 4 1/2 diamonds downtable.

Of course, there are a number of assumptions involved in the above (cloth speed, cushion efficiency...), which is why it's crude.

As far as removing an end-rail, perhaps you could construct a ramp instead. If you know the angle in which the ball takes off, its initial speed can be obtained in the same way. Or, who says you have to use a pool table in the first place. Just about anything at a reasonable height will do.

Another method is to collide it with three balls nearly frozen to each other so that you get a severe speed reduction from three half-ball hits, and then measure how far it travels after that. Some assumptions about the ball and cloth properties are involved here too.

Jim
 
Simple, just record the sound of the break, get some free sample editing software and measure the time between two hits, one being the cue striking the cue ball, and the other, cue ball striking the rack. You can easily get the time in milliseconds.

Then measure or calculate the distance from where you shot to the rack.

Then just divide.
 
NotYou said:
Please note that the best break may not be the break that gives you maximum power. If you can always make a ball, see the one ball, and proceed to run out, the break was good enough.

The first sentence here is absolute truth, and the most practical application, for controlling the CB after the break, with the POSSIBILITY of pocketing a ball. However...nobody, not even the top pros, always make a ball on the break. It is statistically impossible, and well represented in every t.v. match, let alone any poolplaying anywhere. There are always dry breaks, and always will be. It is the random nature of the games we play. You can practice breaking correctly, to give yourself better odds, but making a ball on every break will never happen. Some players will even go in streaks, of making a ball several games in a row...but it cannot be sustained.

BTW...I use a radar gun to measure my student's break speed, when they desire, and it is rare to see many amateur players top 20 mph...regardless of how hard they try. Almost invariably, people believe they are breaking at a faster speed than they actually are. Like bsmutz said, the harder you try to hit the CB, the more control and accuracy you lose...which is why a controlled break will alway have an advantage over the 'hail mary' approach!

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
 
mestar said:
Simple, just record the sound of the break, get some free sample editing software and measure the time between two hits, one being the cue striking the cue ball, and the other, cue ball striking the rack. You can easily get the time in milliseconds.

Then measure or calculate the distance from where you shot to the rack.

Then just divide.
So simple I love. Put your laptop on record or record to tape for sampling later. Measure time between thumps...simply elegant and VERY accurate. I bet you get better results than cheap gun.
 
Cabelas has several chronographs designed for measuring arrow speed. I'm sure one of them could be rigged up to measure cue ball speed. Other than that I like Tennesseejoe's idea best.
 
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