Men vs. women
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No, it doesn't. But what I wanted to point out is, that we're writing on a discussion board which accommodates comments as the following:
Yes, I chose the worst example, and that may well have been intended as a joke, but still this forum is full of this type of attitude. Not that that was a particular problem of this forum, but the man macho no homo sport world in general.
I think he was joking, but yeah sometimes the attitude can suck toward women in the pool world. When I play a woman in league or a tournament etc...I treat them no differently than playing a guy. Why should I? They are my opponent, nothing more, nothing less.
My feeling is that if the best women players competed regularly against the men, they would learn how to win. It's a learning curve that every good young male player must go through as well.
For me the reality is that the top men players are still at least two speeds above the best women players. I've had to revisit my earlier assumptions that the top women were ready to compete against the top men. Although, I firmly believe such tournaments (men and women playing together) would be a boon to our sport on many levels.
For me the reality is that the top men players are still at least two speeds above the best women players. I've had to revisit my earlier assumptions that the top women were ready to compete against the top men. Although, I firmly believe such tournaments (men and women playing together) would be a boon to our sport on many levels.
I agree with this 100%. And I would like to point out for some of the posters above, that there have been reasons beyond the physical or mental differences between the sexes, which have effectively prevented the female competitors doing this (competing regularly against the top competition), until very recent times.
So we'll see. I would be happy to make a bet that we'll have a female world champion in 100 years. Unfortunately, the timeframe needs to be rather large, as the human race is quite slow in carrying out social evolution... so I guess I would never live to see that bet go through.
I used to tell people that at the time,I honestly believed if Allison had Bustamante's or now Shane's break,she might be the best player in the world,regardless of gender. At her best,she didn't beat herself a whole lot by missing randomly,played safe and kicked well,had great composure,and heart.
Now imagine her making 3 balls on the break consistently.
I think there was an article or something where CJ said she stayed right with him for hours on the tightest table in his place,with her normal break. Tommy D.
Now imagine her making 3 balls on the break consistently.
I think there was an article or something where CJ said she stayed right with him for hours on the tightest table in his place,with her normal break. Tommy D.
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I bet in a million years, we'll all be aliens.
All I'm hearing are excuses. When people that reach the top give their reasons for being able to do so, one thing you don't typically hear are excuses.
If it weren't for the global societies, the Jasmine's, Allison's, etc, would've already been world champions? Sorry, you're still falling short.
Agreed, but for a different reason. The reason is a very basic function of human behavior: conservation of resources. Don't use up more energy than you get in return.
In pool match terms: don't spend time and money in a men's tournament where you won't win any cash, when there's women's tournament in which you will win cash. Take the road that has the highest probability of return.
I'm the first one to agree that women have historically gotten the raw end of the deal. But come on, we're talking about world-class competitors here. Their competitive drive is 500% of the average Joe/Sally. If they weren't mentally tough enough to play against men, they'd never had made it this far.
Yes.
Assuming I am allowed to change the expression ''global societies'' to "patriarchal societies".
I'm sorry to say, but I don't really understand what you are saying here.
In any case, I'm not very willing to continue this argument, as it has been done quite a few times on this discussion board and on others, and there never have been any results.
You may regard my last posts in this thread as failed provocative attempts... since this is a war I am going to lose no matter what.
Waiting for the better times.
Regards,
Rasputin
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That would, indeed, make her special. In his 9-Ball match with Efren two days ago, Shane made more than 2 balls on the break just twice out of 24 breaks. He averaged 1.6 balls per break, and that was using the Magic Rack -- where the wing ball, and often the 1-ball, go in at a fairly high frequency. Over a pretty large sample of breaks tracked by Pool-Trax, Shane is averaging about 1.4 balls per break.
But I do appreciate your sentiment about how well Allison played at her peak.