Meucci Red Dot Shaft

shoutout33

shoutout33

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Hi again. :) Just wanted to know if there are still some people out there using the Red Dot shafts. I mean, I know everyone has said, tested, and rumored that the Predator shafts are the best out their. Well, I went to that Platinum website that is advertised on these forums, and they have the Red Dot shaft listed in 6th place for the least deflection.

Now, the only reason I am thinking about this is because I want to save some money, and the person I spoke to even recommended going with Red Dot after I explained to him about my situation. Now this shaft will be to fit a custom cue so I'd like to get a blank (which they said that they still make...) and send it to whoever's going to make my cue. My only concern is Muecci's track record as of late. I mean, are the ferrules still know for cracking every now and then? Sure, I can probably get it replaced free of charge, but then you have to facture in waiting to get another one.

Now, if you all think it'd just be best to get a regular shaft first so I can get my pool legs back, then I have no problems with that at all. I was just thinking that if I started back with a laminated type of shaft, the learning curve wouldn't be that bad. Also, is it true that a lot of pros and good players don't like Predator shafts? I mean, I heard people say that some pros have returned them because they couldn't work with them! :confused:

Anyway, I patiently await your replies and thanks.
 
shoutout33 said:
Hi again. :) Just wanted to know if there are still some people out there using the Red Dot shafts. I mean, I know everyone has said, tested, and rumored that the Predator shafts are the best out their. Well, I went to that Platinum website that is advertised on these forums, and they have the Red Dot shaft listed in 6th place for the least deflection.

Now, the only reason I am thinking about this is because I want to save some money, and the person I spoke to even recommended going with Red Dot after I explained to him about my situation. Now this shaft will be to fit a custom cue so I'd like to get a blank (which they said that they still make...) and send it to whoever's going to make my cue. My only concern is Muecci's track record as of late. I mean, are the ferrules still know for cracking every now and then? Sure, I can probably get it replaced free of charge, but then you have to facture in waiting to get another one.

Now, if you all think it'd just be best to get a regular shaft first so I can get my pool legs back, then I have no problems with that at all. I was just thinking that if I started back with a laminated type of shaft, the learning curve wouldn't be that bad. Also, is it true that a lot of pros and good players don't like Predator shafts? I mean, I heard people say that some pros have returned them because they couldn't work with them! :confused:

Anyway, I patiently await your replies and thanks.
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That site, is a predator site, that is the old predator sales mgr, they push that product. If you tie the guy down, he will tell you the red dot is one hell of a fine shaft and he thinks it is superior to the black dot, that is what he has said in the past. Their stats are slanted to show predator as the best, go into meucci and you see the same thing, so dont take their figures as totally accurate, take them as coming from predator, take them with a grain of salt, just as you do same with what meucci says about their product.

I have a pp1, pp2, pp3, and I now play with a pp4, I have 4 shafts with each cue, each one is red dot. I prefer it over the black dot. I use an X Talisman tip and I am very pleased with its performance. They keep sending me black dots to use, I won't switch over. I am a pro, I make a living with them, been using them since early 2000. In the 5 years I have been using them, and being an artistic player, nobody punishes a cue worse than I do, I have had no failures, none. I even break with it a lot, it breaks really good because it imparts a lot of english on the cue ball.

The cracking ferrule problem was solved several years ago, that is no longer an issue. Yes, they did have a quality issue, but they have set up a brand new factory, new equipment, new people running it, they are in a huge quality rebound now, those issues are in the past as well. It always amazes me how violently people attack this cue on here and on ccb, you have a bunch of elitists who have paid $800 for some plain jane cue called custom which in reality is their high priced production cue and they look down their noses at any cue selling for $300 dollars, its a snob thing. Go with the cue, you will have no problems selling it if you don't like it. They are very popular with the players, they are just not popular here because this board is loaded with cue makers who compete with it. Running it down is good for their business. The cue gets an unfair bad rap here, so consider that when 9 people come in behind this saying what a piece of crap it is, OK...

Fast Larry Guninger The Power source pool school...
 
shoutout33 said:
Hi again. :) I was just thinking that if I started back with a laminated type of shaft, the learning curve wouldn't be that bad.
Anyway, I patiently await your replies and thanks.
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The red dot shaft is NOT a laminated shaft. The Black dot is.
 
drivermaker said:
The red dot shaft is NOT a laminated shaft. The Black dot is.
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Yes Jr, you are right as usual, you are always right, it must be in the genes I passed on to you. The red dot is hard rock maple from the upper IP, where the very best wood comes from. On my pp=4, the wood is very white which I like and find very pleasing. I prefer it over a yellow brown you see in most shafts.
The black dot is like a predator me to, they say its better, predator says theirs is better, who knows, it is a siffer hit than the red dot. I have 10 predator shafts laying around, I don't use them any more. If I want a stiff hit, I pull out and use my custome Schuler, I have 15 custome shafts Ray made for me, I have some that are stiffer than my pecker. It don't get no stiffer than that. Many of them are billiard tapers and shafts.

The red dot is one thing, a different product.

The black dot, the predator, compare with each other in performance and hit. One is pie shape, the other is stack on layers, like you build a cruise ship.

Thank you for chiming in on my post, Jr, yo daddy, call yo mama, she gets out in 5 years and has not heard from you in a while. tee hee hee....just kidding, love to mess with that boy, see the vein pop out on the side of his neck, he's just like his pappy. Chip off the old blubber.
Fast Larry Guninger The power source pool school.
 
shoutout33 said:
Also, is it true that a lot of pros and good players don't like Predator shafts? I mean, I heard people say that some pros have returned them because they couldn't work with them! :confused:

Anyway, I patiently await your replies and thanks.
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Meucci Red Dot shafts are just a regular shaft with a red dot on it.

It's just a matter of personal taste really. They play way different than a Predator shaft. The Meucci shaft is soft hitting, pretty flexible, and I think have a good feel to them.

Predators are stiffer and have a different, kind of funny feel because they're hollow at the end.

I play with a Predator shaft because of the way it performs. They are very consistent. Predator shafts are by far the most popular single make of shaft among top players - look at the pro's who use them.

Will a Predator help someone who's out of stroke play better? No. You have to be in stroke to realize the benefits of a Predator.

Chris
 
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Meucci Red Dot shafts are just a regular shaft with a red dot on it.

It's just a matter of personal taste really. They play way different than a Predator shaft. The Meucci shaft is soft hitting, pretty flexible, and I think have a good feel to them.

Predators are stiffer and have a different, kind of funny feel because they're hollow at the end.

I play with a Predator shaft because of the way it performs. They are very consistent. Predator shafts are by far the most popular single make of shaft among top players - look at the pro's who use them.

Will a Predator help someone who's out of stroke play better? No. You have to be in stroke to realize the benefits of a Predator.

Chris
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How many months have you spent playing with a red dot, if you have not put in the time, how can you then comment? Are just repeating, what you have been told before perhaps?

Fast Larry Guninger the power source pool school.
 
It's been my understanding that the only difference between pre-red dot shafts and red dots shafts was two things... A dot, and bleach. (Which makes them really white, and really flexible.)

Not fighting with you Larry, just my understanding of the situation...

Thanks,

Jon
 
BiG_JoN said:
It's been my understanding that the only difference between pre-red dot shafts and red dots shafts was two things... A dot, and bleach. (Which makes them really white, and really flexible.)

Not fighting with you Larry, just my understanding of the situation...

Thanks,

Jon
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Of course my friend, why can't we have differing opinions and still stay friends and civil. I can tell you this, I know how they get white shafts and they are not bleached, that's not it. The change in color has nothing to do with their flexibility, sorry Jon, wrong on both issues, where do I get my data from, direct from my grand master, bob himself. When I have a question on cues, I call his cell phone, the genius then educates me, I pass this on to you all. :cool: :cool: :cool:

Fast Larry Guninger
 
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Of course my friend, why can't we have differing opinions and still stay friends and civil. I can tell you this, I know how they get white shafts and they are not bleached, that's not it. The change in color has nothing to do with their flexibility, sorry Jon, wrong on both issues, where do I get my data from, direct from my grand master, bob himself. When I have a question on cues, I call his cell phone, the genius then educates me, I pass this on to you all. :cool: :cool: :cool:

Fast Larry Guninger
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I know how to get maple white too. As soon as it's cut from the log (into planks) it is rushed into the kiln (vacuum kiln is supposed to be best for white maple.) Instead of it sitting out and air drying.

I mean no offense by this statement to you or Bob M. How can you call someone who has (probably) the worst reputation in the cue business, your grand master?

Thanks,

Jon
 
BiG_JoN said:
It's been my understanding that the only difference between pre-red dot shafts and red dots shafts was two things... A dot, and bleach. (Which makes them really white, and really flexible.)

Not fighting with you Larry, just my understanding of the situation...

Thanks,

Jon
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Besides the Mary Kay Infierno Red lipstick dot, these CAPPED ( the two with the white bottom removed a few weeks back) Meucci ferrules perhaps?
 
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BiG_JoN said:
I know how to get maple white too. As soon as it's cut from the log (into planks) it is rushed into the kiln (vacuum kiln is supposed to be best for white maple.) Instead of it sitting out and air drying.

I mean no offense by this statement to you or Bob M. How can you call someone who has (probably) the worst reputation in the cue business, your grand master?

Thanks,

Jon
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Simple Jon, other than Jim McDermott, who else has sold more cues or made more money as a usa cue maker? You say he has a bad reputation, I sir say that is not so, that he is a genius, he makes a wonderful cue that plays circles around most of what is out there. I must always have a grand master cue builder around me, it was Rambo, then Schuler, when he passed I went to Bob. He has taught me a ton of things, about the game, about cues, he is truly one of the great genius's in the game I have ever met, the man is simply amazing. He just over powers most, and they do not under stand him, I do.
He was out there among the first, those who have came up behind him, well lets say there is a lot of jealousy involved here, which is a lot of the bad press that goes down. His knowledge is so vast, I may never fully tap into it as I have with others.
I go to his ranch, his factory, his home, know his family, know the man, I call him friend. Ray Schuler suffered from the same problem Bob does, when you are too far out front of every one else, they hate you.
Best Wishes,
Fast Larry Guninger The power source pool school
 
ramdadingdong said:
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How many months have you spent playing with a red dot, if you have not put in the time, how can you then comment? Are just repeating, what you have been told before perhaps?

Fast Larry Guninger the power source pool school.
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Larry,

Please carefully read my post before getting upset. You know, take some advice from a fellow old timer ... relax, my friend! Life's too short. Put those teeth in and give us a :D!

I didn't say they were bad shafts. I correctly pointed out that with the taper they use and the soft ferrule, the Meucci shaft is flexible with a soft hit. I said the Meucci shaft is just a regular shaft - is that wrong? It's just solid canadian maple - no secrets.

As far as my credentials with Meucci, I have a collection of about 20 rare old Meucci Originals, and I had a number of Red Dot shafts made up that came with replacement shafts. I have them made up by Mark at the Meucci factory to replace old worn shafts from collectible old cues, copying the old style. I just have them leave off the dot and ask for them to be made "old style". Same shaft, no dot.

When Meucci introduced the red dot with the 95 series cues, the idea was for the player to be able to position the shaft the same way on each shot - to keep the spine in the same position. Because they're made from solid wood, the position of the grain affects the flexibility of the shaft on side impact (english shots). This is not a new concept - other makers had come up with the concept before - the "pro mark" was one.

I also pointed out theat the Meucci shaft is all about feel. Far too much has been made of deflection. Meucci's feel good, and if you like the feel - get one!

Predator shafts, because of the construction technique, do not need to be aligned in any certain way. They are totally consistent from shot to shot. I don't really like the feel of a Predator shaft - I like their performance. I am willing to sacrifice feel for accuracy. I think Predators are the most consistent, accurate shafts made. I also think they feel like crap, but I live with it.

So, take your pick.

Chris
 
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sorry Jon, wrong on both issues,
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Jon is not wrong, Why are you so cocky about your game? You are so Boring, and you were banished! If you are so good, enter the U.S.Open . We will see how far the pro goes. I would guess the bag of bones goes 2 and out. As a matter of fact I would BET on it. Also Larry, Why do you have to HIJACK every post, claim to have the only answer to every question, and post 25 times a day on every thread?

Do you have to run the show? Y
Do you have to be the star every second? Y
You seem to have a little kids mentality, and a attention problem. Y

I bet no one likes you really. I also have a hunch you dont like yourself much either Lar.

I would like to take this time to say, in all respect to other members,

....I have your cell phone number right here old man. I really dont like to say things like this but, I bet you have had some real good ass whoopins, from your ego problem and your big mouth. There are probably a few out there who would like to. How does it feel to know someone might just knock you down out of nowhere just for being you? Think about it .

You can all tear me up, with your little smirking comebacks, I can take it fools, but my posts will always contain a serious dose of reality, and thats a fact bubs.

All else,Sorry for the attitude from me.Slow Larry is looking for the fight I just opted to bite. I expect his boyfriends to get all teared up:( , but I wont post again on this thread.
 
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TATE said:
Larry,

Please carefully read my post before getting upset. You know, take some advice from a fellow old timer ... relax, my friend! Life's too short. Put those teeth in and give us a :D!

I didn't say they were bad shafts. I correctly pointed out that with the taper they use and the soft ferrule, the Meucci shaft is flexible with a soft hit. I said the Meucci shaft is just a regular shaft - is that wrong? It's just solid canadian maple - no secrets.

As far as my credentials with Meucci, I have a collection of about 20 rare old Meucci Originals, and I had a number of Red Dot shafts made up that came with replacement shafts. I have them made up by Mark at the Meucci factory to replace old worn shafts from collectible old cues, copying the old style. I just have them leave off the dot and ask for them to be made "old style". Same shaft, no dot.

When Meucci introduced the red dot with the 95 series cues, the idea was for the player to be able to position the shaft the same way on each shot - to keep the spine in the same position. Because they're made from solid wood, the position of the grain affects the flexibility of the shaft on side impact (english shots). This is not a new concept - other makers had come up with the concept before - the "pro mark" was one.

I also pointed out theat the Meucci shaft is all about feel. Far too much has been made of deflection. Meucci's feel good, and if you like the feel - get one!

Predator shafts, because of the construction technique, do not need to be aligned in any certain way. They are totally consistent from shot to shot. I don't really like the feel of a Predator shaft - I like their performance. I am willing to sacrifice feel for accuracy. I think Predators are the most consistent, accurate shafts made. I also think they feel like crap, but I live with it.

So, take your pick.

Chris
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It's nice to know you are an expert on the product, then well qualified, to talk for it, or against it. I too sir, only want accuracy, not feel, that is what I seek also. The secret is not so much in the wood, or the taper, it is in the ferrule, and the tip, that is where I feel it all is. IMHO. You can copy the wood, copy the taper, you can't copy their ferrule.
 
bethesilentone said:
Ok here goes.


Jon is not wrong, Why are you so cocky about your game? You are so Boring and you were banished!Duh! Idiot old man. If you are so good, enter the U.S.Open . We will see how far the pro goes. I would guess the bag of bones goes 2 and out. As a matter of fact I would BET on it. Also Larry, Why do you have to HIJACK every post, claim to have the only answer to every question, and post 25 times a day on every thread?

Do you have to run the show? Y
Do you have to be the star every second? Y
You seem to have a little kids mentality, and a attention problem. Y

I bet no one likes you really. I also have a hunch you dont like yourself much either Lar.

I would like to take this time to say, in all respect to other members,

....I have your cell phone number right here old man. I really dont like to say things like this but, I bet you have had some real good ass whoopins, from your ego problem and your big mouth. There are probably a few out there who would like to. How does it feel to know someone might just knock you down out of nowhere just for being you? Think about it .

You can all tear me up, with your little smirking comebacks, I can take it fools, but my posts will always contain a serious dose of reality, and thats a fact bubs.

All else,Sorry for the attitude from me.Slow Larry is looking for the fight I just opted to bite. I expect his boyfriends to get all teared up:( , but I wont post again on this thread.
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Did all that, make you feel good, let me turn the other cheek, slap on, post more if you choose to. You know every post you have made with me has been an attack and a slam, what does that say about you. Have I ever, came after you, no, not once. Your threats of violence towards me sir, say a lot about you, have I ever threatened you. No sir, I am not looking for a fight with you, I have no time for that, no appetite for that either. Sir, I do not play 9 ball, I play artistic, I teach, I show, that is what I do. Why dont you enter the us open and post how well you do.
If you have my cell phone, why did you not call and take this directly to me, why do you have to run me down over the internet, how big of a man does that make you, can't face me over a phone, but cutting my throat on the net is ok with you, that is the way a real man operates? You sound like to me, like you are some kid.
 
Meucci Cues

I am an old Meucci Cue user.... I started out using Meucci cues in the 80's ...Meucci builds a good cue/ I think the feel of an older Meucci is better than the newer ones. But I am not an expert ....i do shoot with a Paul Mottey now .... now and then i will pick up a Meucci and I can tell I miss the feel ...... but haven't went back ..... It takes time to get use to a cue ...now and then you will pick one up and it feels like a part of your body...that is the cue you wanna keep and shoot with. I have shoot with different cues / Mottey, Gilbert , Bludworth, Kline, and others .... they are all nice looking cues and has a great feel...... I wish i could have one of each in my collection..... heck who knows maybe i will one day. Bob Meucci has sold many cues in his life ..... I can tell everyone this for sure about used cues..... A Meucci Cue will sell quicker than any other cue because for the money you will not get a better feeling cue. Thanks all
 
Um...ok, thanks everyone. Wasn't trying to start a flame war or anything, but thanks nonetheless. Ok, let me please explain what I'm trying to do again. I know that the Red-Dot shaft works well with Meucci's butt. It's supposed to because it's their product; however, I would really like to know if anyone has or still uses the shaft on a different butt. :confused:

Ok, the Predator is THE most accurate cue out there...fine, I got that. But as you know, not everyone uses Predators line of cues as much as they use their shafts. I'm guessing it's the same with Meucci as well. I have nothing against using a Meucci cue. I've hit with one before and it was nice. This time around, I want a custom cue made and I found at least two cuemakers who can make me custom cue between 200-300 dollars which is definitely in the price range of most production cues.

Now if push comes to shove, then I gues I'd go with a Meucci cue, because lately that's all I've been looking at as far as production cues go. Well, not the only one, but I've been on their site the most though. I'm still trying to figure out what's so special about this power piston technology thingy. From what I understand, the forearm is made out of some type of plastic instead of wood.

This doesn't help my situation because all I've ever hit was wood, even when I hit that Meucci back in the day. That's one reason why I've been craving a custom cue for myself. Mabey it's a mental thing, but I just like the idea of having a cue tailored for me. I've only owned one, mabey two cues and they were both production cues. I feel that the skill level I'm at now, justifies the purchase of getting a custom cue made. Man, I'm becoming a purist and can't do anything about it! LOL! :D :p

I'm just trying to find a cheaper alternative to buying a 314 shaft, because if I didn't like it after shelling out all that money, I'd be really upset. That's money that could go into a second regular matched shaft. Don't get me wrong, I could hate the Red-Dot too and feel the same way. I'm thinking I could solve my problem one of two ways:

1.) Buy a Meucci cue with a Red-Dot shaft (mabey even two...) and see how it goes. This wouldn't cost that much and I'd still have a decent playing cue.

2.) Get my custom cue made and have both a standard and Red-Dot shaft matched to it.

Please understand, this is just me brainstorming here. I really have no idea what I plan to do. For me, right now, I like feel better than accuracy. Yeah I know, "WTF is wrong with this guy?!?". Let me explain. If you know your cue, how it feels (you know when you make a good or bad shot...), know what you can and can't do with it, know your limitations as a player, and have decent equipment to work with, the accuracy will come. When I used to bowl a lot, I would be told to work on my mechanics and everything else would take care of itself. I feel the same way about pool.

The Predator shaft is an awesome piece of equipment and for all I know, I might end up using it! :p But for some reason, I'm craving feedback and/or feel from a cue right now, and I need the best bang for my buck in that area. If you all think I'm way off my rocker and have suggestions, by all means givem'. I'm am by no means an expert and I'm trying to learn as much as I can, but right now there's a budget I have on my hands so I'm trying to stay within those lines as well too. Thanks again for your replies and please continue to send more. :D
 
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Um...ok, thanks everyone. Wasn't trying to start a flame war or anything, but thanks nonetheless. Ok, let me please explain what I'm trying to do again. I know that the Red-Dot shaft works well with Meucci's butt. It's supposed to because it's their product; however, I would really like to know if anyone has or still uses the shaft on a different butt. :confused:

Ok, the Predator is THE most accurate cue out there...fine, I got that. But as you know, not everyone uses Predators line of cues as much as they use their shafts. I'm guessing it's the same with Meucci as well. I have nothing against using a Meucci cue. I've hit with one before and it was nice. This time around, I want a custom cue made and I found at least two cuemakers who can make me custom cue between 200-300 dollars which is definitely in the price range of most production cues.

Now if push comes to shove, then I gues I'd go with a Meucci cue, because lately that's all I've been looking at as far as production cues go. Well, not the only one, but I've been on their site the most though. I'm still trying to figure out what's so special about this power piston technology thingy. From what I understand, the forearm is made out of some type of plastic instead of wood.

This doesn't help my situation because all I've ever hit was wood, even when I hit that Meucci back in the day. That's one reason why I've been craving a custom cue for myself. Mabey it's a mental thing, but I just like the idea of having a cue tailored for me. I've only owned one, mabey two cues and they were both production cues. I feel that the skill level I'm at now, justifies the purchase of getting a custom cue made. Man, I'm becoming a purist and can't do anything about it! LOL! :D :p

I'm just trying to find a cheaper alternative to buying a 314 shaft, because if I didn't like it after shelling out all that money, I'd be really upset. That's money that could go into a second regular matched shaft. Don't get me wrong, I could hate the Red-Dot too and feel the same way. I'm thinking I could solve my problem one of two ways:

1.) Buy a Meucci cue with a Red-Dot shaft (mabey even two...) and see how it goes. This wouldn't cost that much and I'd still have a decent playing cue.

2.) Get my custom cue made and have both a standard and Red-Dot shaft matched to it.

Please understand, this is just me brainstorming here. I really have no idea what I plan to do. For me, right now, I like feel better than accuracy. Yeah I know, "WTF is wrong with this guy?!?". Let me explain. If you know your cue, how it feels (you know when you make a good or bad shot...), know what you can and can't do with it, know your limitations as a player, and have decent equipment to work with, the accuracy will come. When I used to bowl a lot, I would be told to work on my mechanics and everything else would take care of itself. I feel the same way about pool.

The Predator shaft is an awesome piece of equipment and for all I know, I might end up using it! :p But for some reason, I'm craving feedback and/or feel from a cue right now, and I need the best bang for my buck in that area. If you all think I'm way off my rocker and have suggestions, by all means givem'. I'm am by no means an expert and I'm trying to learn as much as I can, but right now there's a budget I have on my hands so I'm trying to stay within those lines as well too. Thanks again for your replies and please continue to send more. :D
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I play with a Meucci pp-4, the list of pros who have won major titles with the cue are the whos who of pool. Who is the best player in the world today, who puts on english dance the cue ball shows that amaze you, would you not love to use his cue, well you can and his name is Efren Reyes and his cue is:
Angeles City, Philippines
Born: Aug. 26, 1954, Pampanga, Philippines
Cue: Meucci 21 oz., 12.5 mm shaft
Sponsor: AMF Puyat
 
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I play with a Meucci pp-4, the list of pros who have won major titles with the cue are the whos who of pool. Who is the best player in the world today, who puts on english dance the cue ball shows that amaze you, would you not love to use his cue, well you can and his name is Efren Reyes and his cue is:
Angeles City, Philippines
Born: Aug. 26, 1954, Pampanga, Philippines
Cue: Meucci 21 oz., 12.5 mm shaft
Sponsor: AMF Puyat
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Sorry, Larry. You're going waaay back when Efren used it in '96.
 
ramdadingdong said:
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I play with a Meucci pp-4, the list of pros who have won major titles with the cue are the whos who of pool. Who is the best player in the world today, who puts on english dance the cue ball shows that amaze you, would you not love to use his cue, well you can and his name is Efren Reyes and his cue is:
Angeles City, Philippines
Born: Aug. 26, 1954, Pampanga, Philippines
Cue: Meucci 21 oz., 12.5 mm shaft
Sponsor: AMF Puyat
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He used to play with a Meucci but doesn't any more. He switched to a Judd.
However, he amassed a great record with it when he did use a Meucci.

As far as the original question goes, you will get more feedback from a red dot than a Predator. Personally, I also think that you get more accuracy, but you won't hear that from the die hard Predator users.

You can interchange a red dot or a black dot with another cue as long as it has the same joint configuration which is 5/16x18. (Meucci's standard) Otherwise, you can have Meucci make a shaft with other joints.

I have a Power Piston PP-3 and it's a good cue. The hit on it is softer than other cues you might be used to and if you like it that way, it'll be great. I also have a MTC-3 with a nickel joint and prefer a little harder hit. It's up to you.
 
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