Revised, your right, you have enough tools.
Mike,
I have to disagree with you. Man can never have enough tools.
Meullers tip shaper for lathe
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Mike,
I have to disagree with you. Man can never have enough tools.
Hi,
The tool looks nice but I think a piece of flatbar mounted for quick change and a razor blade does the job nicely with austerity.
JMO,
Rick
The tool looks nice but I think a piece of flatbar mounted for quick change and a razor blade does the job nicely with austerity.
JMO,
Rick
Yes, that flat bar works well (great invention) as does trimming with a blade but I think you can achieve better and much more consistent results with the shaping tool. Of course, this is just my humble opinion and I could be wrong.
Austerity however failed in Greece and the actual economic effects of austerity are unclear at this time. :grin:
Austerity however failed in Greece and the actual economic effects of austerity are unclear at this time. :grin:
The yoke-style tip shapers like the Porper work well.
I first used this modified one for shaping tips, but I don’t like it:
Whereas this adjustable one works great, safe and accurate (the MK2 shaft is changeable):
Olaf
I first used this modified one for shaping tips, but I don’t like it:
Whereas this adjustable one works great, safe and accurate (the MK2 shaft is changeable):
Olaf
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I can hardly see that contraption. Why didn't you make it larger. 
I think you got your answer but no it doesn't fit typical Taig based lathe based on my experience of having both the lathe and the particular tip shaper.
I can hardly see that contraption. Why didn't you make it larger.
That “contraption” is large enough to offer me a wide range of different radii and to adjust the favored curvature in a precise and repeatable way. I think it deserves the term “adjustable”. The device is fully made of steel; rock-solid and very sturdy; cuts alu like butter.
I asked here on AZ if Porper’s “Adjustable Tip Shaping Tool” is able to shape different domes (like Dime, Nickel etc.) but got no answer. So I contacted a dealer who sells this tool and he told me that the Porper jig can only shape one fixed radius.
I believe that Porper’s shaping tool works wonderful but to call it “adjustable” is slightly misleading. But maybe I am wrong and somebody can tell me where this tool is “adjustable”.
Olaf
That looks nice.
But, to file a dime to a nickel takes seconds.
But, to file a dime to a nickel takes seconds.
Interesting turning tool. Wondering if this one produces too much heat and "peel force" for laminated cue tips.
Olaf
Olaf
Olaf....
Your contraption is overkill for sure but I bet it works well. As far as the other tool your'e talking about - I would say absolutely but don't tell the guy who put it up because he knows it all.
Good question.
Check the pics.
The ground angles take care of that . Sure water helps too.
The angel in the front helps in avoiding the ferrule too.
Little cuts and barely miss the ferrule.
You can razor the rest easily instead of using the razor to turn down the whole tip.
I don't use that front to turn down the diam. of the tip much these days.
Much faster with spiral 1/4 end mill on the router/grinder.
Two strips of blue tape around the ferrule before facing.
Face, glue the tip.
Run the router and spiral end mill to turn down the tip. When you hit the blue tape, stop.
Use razor, then shape with this bit and file/sanding block.
Yours and Mueller's are more convenient and faster though.
I saw my mentor trim the diameter free handed with a manual planer blade dead flush in seconds one time.
I ain't doing that though.
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Olaf, your adjustable design is cool.
I don't knock the Mueller Tool because I have seen it work.
I like the razor blade for the same reason your rig is cool. I can adjust it to the size of the ferrule dia and the crown radius that I feel is correct. I do a lot of small 3 C Billiards tips and one radius does not fit all cues.:nono:
Rick
Olaf....
Your contraption is overkill for sure but I bet it works well. As far as the other tool your'e talking about - I would say absolutely but don't tell the guy who put it up because he knows it all.
Overkill? That’s a matter of opinion and depends on a cost-benefit ratio.
Joe in one of your instruction videos you show one shaping tool, “what separates the professional from the hack and the butcher”.
It’s Joe Porper’s Tip Taper and it looks like a special cutter. That tool costs over 200 bucks; it can only shape one fixed dome, you a need big chuck to fix it and you only use it for doming phenolic tips.
No harm intended: But I think, that tool is overkill; butcher and hack aside.
@ JoeyInCali
Looks like, that your method works good. Problem is the non-variable radius; you will need a whole bunch of those tools to be able to shape different domes.
@ Rick
I bet the razor method works fine, but I would feel uncomfortable to be busy with a sharp blade hold by my hands on a rotating workpiece near the rotating jaw chuck.
BTW: Do you use the “notch” in the razor rest as gauge?
Kind regards
Olaf
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True. Here people pretty much choose either dime or nickle shape.
A file and 220 grit sand paper shape tips fast.
How much does your tip shaper cost btw ?
Tnx
Great videos btw.
Ryan..... you use the big shaper or the little shaper tool from Porper ??
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Olaf,
I don't use the notch as a gauge. I form every crown using my minds eye and after doing thousands of tips over the last nine years I know how I wish each tip to look with reference the the ferrule dia.
Your safety concerns are well taken but I position my arms and body in a safe position and always wear safety glasses. Any time there is rotating equipment one should have a heightened level if awareness in their mindset.
Rick
Err, who is this guy ???
That blade on that rest is not any more dangerous than a knife trimming the side of the tip imo.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=KUVzocTnNps#t=254s
Sorry Olaf, that is prettttty dangerous too.