Mike Dechaine : Things for you to know

wrldpro said:
Starting at post 7 and then post 13. Happy reading.

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=110153&highlight=

There was a picture of Charlie entering a girls hotel room on azb if anybody still has it.
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Holy hell, that girl laid down some dirt.


I'll tell you though, and I'm being serious. It doesnt make any sense to me that she did not go to the athorities. She claimes to have been too embarassed and ashamed and violated and all that but victims who feel that kind of shame dont talk to authorities... or tell all the players like this angry white guy, or blackjack, or later a public forum. They dont even tell the people closest to them. It just makes no sense to me that if she were able to tell others then why not the authorities?

Someone else asked what motive a girl would have for lying. I'll give you one. She might have been hurt. Either had a relationship with him going then found out he banged someone else or got into a fight over where their relationship was heading. Both can cause anger I know. Im not saying that is what happened im just saying their are possibilities for why a girl would try to hurt a man. And depending on how hurt a girl is they might even try to hurt a man on this level. Believe it or not pretty girls can lie and lie good. And you hurt them and drama can go down. I mean she just should have went to the authorities if her accusations are true.

But she is claiming that Charlie wanted to bang her and his first move toward sex was to surprise her and sneak into her room? Possible I guess but crazy if true. If true she should have went to the authorities is all Im going to say about it. Man, that is crazy stuff.

Did any of the other girls she claims to know of ever back her up on her story?
 
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koreandragon said:
This will be the only post made. I do not personally go on AZB, and I let my staff use this account. Nor have I read any of the other posts, threads, etc and I won't be. We post on AZB only to inform pool fans of legitimate events of Dragon Promotions and try to promote positives in the sport. Im not going to read or reply to comments on this. Everyone can decide their own opinion.
But for this post, this is all me.

1) Mike's accusation of him being cheated out of a seed, group, misplacement, rigging etc are all false and based on his own conjectures of his imagination.
2) Mike has accepted and declined his participation in the World 14.1 back and forth a total of 4 times over 30 day period.
3) My offering to help him to get to the event was out of kindness when he said he was broke.
4) Mike later reneged on playing and demanded a free entry fee and based it on that he was on a TV show. I told him no worries he doesnt have to play.
5) He messaged me back 5 mins later that he would put himself in the event, which my response was that is a much better thing to do and what we prefer.
6) On site, he came in person and handed me credit card. He saw the chart and got agitated when he saw Mika Immonen's name above his. We explained this was of no consequence. He refused our explanation. He wanted his name moved to another group and to be placed above at the top.
7) We made another attempt and pointed out to him he was still a seeded player (despite all his dropouts) and in my opinion , in a very good group where he was favored well.
8) I then asked with finality, do you want to play or do you want us to take your name out. He answered take it out. I gave his card back.
9) Mike then used a series of profane language cursing me and the event out and stormed off. Moments he came back and looked at his group very closely, and then I received a phone call from his sponsor which was a cordial conversation which I interpreted as to see if he could get back in the event. Which at that point after all his antics, the answer was a No.
10) Mike made none of these current accusations of "rigging" in person at the event, he only relayed to us that he thought he wasnt a top seed, which was untrue. And the fact that he insisted his name should be above Mika Immonen.
11) The conspiracy theory of us moving his position back and forth came way after.Likely from the backlash of criticism he received for pulling out hastily and realizing he would not be placed back into the field despite his ultimatums.

About me: some of you already know that today our business model at Dragon Promotions does not rely on pool or billiard companies. We have all but eliminated pool from DP and maintain a small core of events, and have expanded into other industries.
Myself and my staff work 8 months to put the World 14.1 together out of love and dedication for pool and the players & fans, even when this is the worst time I've ever seen in the history of pro pool. The event is impossible to profit off of, and when factoring payroll, expenses, and time, will definitely be a money loser.

On a personal note: Mike Dechaine has called upon my help several times over the years. He has called me and talk to me numerous times with me consulting on how to better his career, and my advice on how to get along with his peers and sponsors. He has had numerous incidents with numerous top players on tour. I've had to step in on his behalf on more than one occasion, especially during my time as captain of Team USA at Mosconi when players on both sides had grievances with him. I felt sympathy for him when he was later passed over even for consideration as the #2 ranked player later, but understood the reasons. I was also instrumental on his behalf in getting his first major sponsorship with a cue company after they originally passed him over, and I re-convinced them to give him a second chance.

The reason for the above is to paint a history of our relationship which probably is very different than some may have thought. I've never asked anything of Mike and have always been there to help him when he asked. Including this time.

I think he's a very talented player and it's a shame there's not many avenues to showcase his talent. Which is why I made a sizable effort to get him to the World 14.1.

Unfortunately the result is in tune with others who have tried to do the same for him.
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Thanks for taking the time to provide your side, Korean Dragon.
I don't really care for the petty tensions that goes on in pool, but I will say this....

...Mike has some more growing up to do.
There's no reason to waffle when deciding to play in a tournament.
Either put your money up and enter or don't.
When you depend on others to pay in order for you to participate in your vocation, you get in trouble.

For crying out loud. Just because you're on a television show doesn't make you entitled, Mike.
Ever wonder if this continued drama that takes place around you has something to do with YOU?
 
If that girl that Charlie tried to force himself on were my sister, he'd be a dead man. How people live after pulling a move like that is beyond my comprehension.
 
Knock on Door.

Girl: "I'm in the shower- give me 5 minutes"

CW: "It's OK, I have a key".

If it walks like an ass, talks out of its ass and most people think it's an ass, it's probably an ass.
 
2strong4u said:
If that girl that Charlie tried to force himself on were my sister, he'd be a dead man. How people live after pulling a move like that is beyond my comprehension.
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Here is the problem! A STUPID girl comes on a forum to say a man forced himself on to her,,,,, but she doesn't go to the authorities first???? A RETARDED man doesn't press charges against a STUPID woman for false accusations????

Honestly,,,, I don't believe either of them! Well, actually, I don't believe her because I haven't heard anything out of him!
 
Mike's behavior aside ( but not dismissed)
personally I think an official boycott is in order.
 
I don't know who is right or wrong in this matter. However, I do know that this should have been handled privately by both Charlie and Mike. No need to post about it on facebook or here. It just comes across as classless and unprofessional.
 
jeffj2h said:
Mr. Bond, you and Cantrell need to discuss this controversy on ABR...
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I would be interested in the truth.
But can it be had at this point?

Can a player hold a promoter to a higher standard than him or herself?
Can a promoter manipulate the level of competition for any one or more specific players?
Could a players association have held a player accountable?
Could a players association have held a promoter accountable?
Can the players entry fees simple produce a better event?
Do all the patrons, sponsors, fans, and the venue simply look away and grimace?
 
westcoast said:
I don't know who is right or wrong in this matter. However, I do know that this should have been handled privately by both Charlie and Mike. No need to post about it on facebook or here. It just comes across as classless and unprofessional.
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While I agree that it comes across as classless & unprofessional, it is a good that it came out. People should know the truth of what Charlie Williams is about. He has earned the negative reputation that he has in many circles which is why I would never support any of his events,
 
It appears that approximately 65 to 70% of rapes are not reported to authorities.

In cases where inappropriate sexual advances were made with no rape taking place, the percentage of non reporting to authorities jumps to 95 to 98%.

In cases of reporting sexual assaults to authorities where someone was falsely accused averages about 2 cases out of a 1000. That figures out to one fifth of one percent.

Number one reason for not reporting to authorities by women: Embarassment. This indicates why most sexual predators get away with it for so long.


Stones
 
(((Satori))) said:
Holy hell, that girl laid down some dirt.


I'll tell you though, and I'm being serious. It doesnt make any sense to me that she did not go to the athorities. She claimes to have been too embarassed and ashamed and violated and all that but victims who feel that kind of shame dont talk to authorities... or tell all the players like this angry white guy, or blackjack, or later a public forum. They dont even tell the people closest to them. It just makes no sense to me that if she were able to tell others then why not the authorities?

Someone else asked what motive a girl would have for lying. I'll give you one. She might have been hurt. Either had a relationship with him going then found out he banged someone else or got into a fight over where their relationship was heading. Both can cause anger I know. Im not saying that is what happened im just saying their are possibilities for why a girl would try to hurt a man. And depending on how hurt a girl is they might even try to hurt a man on this level. Believe it or not pretty girls can lie and lie good. And you hurt them and drama can go down. I mean she just should have went to the authorities if her accusations are true.

But she is claiming that Charlie wanted to bang her and his first move toward sex was to surprise her and sneak into her room? Possible I guess but crazy if true. If true she should have went to the authorities is all Im going to say about it. Man, that is crazy stuff.

Did any of the other girls she claims to know of ever back her up on her story?
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Wow... Even for you this is a new low which is pretty hard to do based on your entire body of work... If you wish to assassinate someone's character you need to be well read.... Assassinate is a new spelling just for you.....
 
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