Mike the Mouth v/s Women

macguy said:
I thought heard Mike say when, I think it was when KT, refer to Fisher as the best woman player in the world, correct him and say, "Maybe the best woman player of all time". As far as the Rob comment, that's a gambling term and I think he was being sincere. Lock him in a room with any woman in the world and let them play and he probably in fact will rob them at least he believes so and I have to admit so do I.

I seriously doubt Mike hates or disrespects women, it's just hard to have a conversation on the subject without being accused of that when you are just being honest. As far as Mikes ego, spend some time with him and there are no lulls in the conversation, he can talk enough for both of you and his favorite subject is himself. There is no law against that though and he is a pretty nice guy in general. He may regret sometime in the future the way he is being depicted now. No one wants to read that people hate you or have them cheer when you lose.
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I might be wrong but I don't remember him saying it about the women, just a couple of the men... as I said before.
 
Pete -

I know they have them - Im just saying they dont usually tape the women. I think they did one or two tournaments. Ive got all Fishers accu-stats tapes - thats why I stated the she did play a .970
 
gregory said:
It was 11 games, (with a whole bunch won on the snap). How many male "TOP PRO PLAYERS" have BR 11 in a row in a touney? I guess men can't compete with Earl either.
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Good point.

I did however witness Allison run a 6 pack after winning the lag in her 2nd WPBA event Im pretty sure. Im sure she ran the 6-just not sure it was 2nd event for her but it was very early in her WPBA career.
 
Im sure she has done that many times but I think to even it out a little for the other players on the WPBA they do atl break. It would really be to her advantage winner break.
 
9BallBust-O said:
Im sure she has done that many times but I think to even it out a little for the other players on the WPBA they do atl break. It would really be to her advantage winner break.
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Alternate break in the WPBA is a fairly recent development.
 
Yeah I know when I first started watching it was winner break. I just dont think a lot of players would be able to take it if "another player" racked up a 5 or 6 pack. There would just be no chance for some of them - thats why I think they went to atl break. I could be wrong.
 
9BallBust-O said:
Ive seen Allison play winner break race to 7 and the lady she was playing got to shoot twice. Not get up to shoot twice ... I mean pull the trigger twice. If I remember correct one shot was to shoot a push out that AF did and one was to shoot at a safe from AF.
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In a whole race to 7?! And on 5" TV pockets and new cloth? Boy I don't think there's more than 1000 guys who could put together a match like that.

Actually, to be fair, I'm probably wrong...there's probably 2000 guys who could do that. I played in a match in Georgia where a 14-year-old kid did that to me. I should have called heads on the coin flip I guess.


9BallBust-O said:
Also a side note - I dont think anyone alive could "ROB" Hohman
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Efren would put him into orbit.
 
macguy said:
I thought heard Mike say when, I think it was when KT, refer to Fisher as the best woman player in the world, correct him and say, "Maybe the best woman player of all time".
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That is indeed what I heard as well. I think he gives the women players their respect and acknowledges they are great players. He said during the broadcast they are great players. He just isn't humble about himself, and he isn't going to admit they are HIS match.
Kelly
 
Yeah a whole race to 7 and she had a 5 pack. Its not every day you see that with a guys match. Its not my fault they were not playing 7 ahead.
 
9BallBust-O said:
Yeah a whole race to 7 and she had a 5 pack. Its not every day you see that with a guys match. Its not my fault they were not playing 7 ahead.
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Oh, she had a five pack. I thought she just won seven games only allowing two shots (i.e. maybe a 2 pack, followed by a 2 pack, followed by a 3). That's quite a bit different. That being the case there's probably only 1500 guys (hell, there's probably 500 in California alone) who could do that in any given race to 7 on that equipment. Sorry for the exaggeration earlier.

Tell you what, you can take any guy player who is ranked between 200 and 500 in the world, put him on the women's tour, and he will be the #1 player on that tour within 2 years. That's how different the two games are.
 
gromulan said:
Oh, she had a five pack. I thought she just won seven games only allowing two shots (i.e. maybe a 2 pack, followed by a 2 pack, followed by a 3). That's quite a bit different. That being the case there's probably only 1500 guys (hell, there's probably 500 in California alone) who could do that in any given race to 7 on that equipment. Sorry for the exaggeration earlier.

Tell you what, you can take any guy player who is ranked between 200 and 500 in the world, put him on the women's tour, and he will be the #1 player on that tour within 2 years. That's how different the two games are.
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Our own Steve Lipsky is ranked 309 as is TheOne
per the WPA site

http://www.wpa-pool.com/index.asp?content=players_men

Tomoshi FUJIMOTO JPN 1 20
309 Emile RIERA AUS 1 20
309 Richard JONES ENG 1 20
309 Tasuku NISHIO JPN 1 20
309 Steve Lipsky USA 1 20
309 Craig RILEY GBR 1 20
309 Cristian JUDET ROM 1 20
309 Javier MUNOZ ESP 1 20

Maybe Steve or Craig will weigh in on this.
 
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gromulan -

Kewl ... hey the next time you win a televised event do me a favor ... look straight into the camera and flip me off.
 
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I keep hearing the supporting factor of her running multiple racks in a row (5 packs, 6 packs etc.)

This was in 9 Ball and more then likely on Simonis 860. There is a big difference on the ball spread of 9 ball on simonis and 8 ball on this slow gorina cloth they are using. This is why I think Sigel will beat either one. He can get the balls moving more after the snap. We have seen him put 3 pack (at least think it was more) on LJJ in the 8 ball champs. She broke and ran 1 rack and came up dry the one after.

(unfortunately I have no leg to stand on with this argument considering Karens weak break prevailed over Archer and Neils sledgehammer break wasnt enough to take down Allison on the IPT so far. Maybe I should just backspace this whole post out before hitting post reply... shit too late...)
 
You cant use LJJ as an example. Slow cloth is hype. Play good shape and you dont have to over stroke anything.
 
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9BallBust-O said:
You cant use LJJ as an example. Slow cloth is hype. Play good shape and you dont have to over stroke anything.
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Im using the slow cloth argument regarding the difference of there breaks. Breaking 8 ball on that slow cloth is going to yeild a much different outcome then breaking 9 ball on Simonis. Deuel has proved you can soft break 9 ball on Simonis and leave no clusters and run out. You have to break HARD in this in order to get a good spread and leave as few clusters as possible and I dont think the women have enough snap in them to do it everytime to yield consistant break and runs. I doubt any of the women will put anymore then a 3 pack on any opponent. (Except may Tiffany Nelson. She breaks damn hard for a woman).

Ex. In the second set of LJJ vs Sigel, LJJ Ran out a rack that Sigel broke and then had a Break and run of her own. Then she broke and came up dry and hardly seen the table after that.

Im sorry, I just dont think Allison or any other woman can break and run more then 3 racks in a row on this equipment. I think this is what will help Sigel out. Also, Im sure this is Sigel's ideal playing field. I can gaurantee that when KT was think up the equipment for the IPT Sigel had a hand in it. That should be obvious since Sigel was the one who helped push KT into this endeavour.
 
I agree somewhat ... I dont use a hard break for 8 and you can get a good spread with little force breaking from the short rail a little off center. No where i think you have to have force is if you break with your hand on the table .. I dont think she would do to well like that.
 
Lets face it sigel was sooo preoccupied with losing to a female that his concentration was on what would happen if he lost and he was not concentrating on his game...
 
kcpoolfan said:
Lets face it sigel was sooo preoccupied with losing to a female that his concentration was on what would happen if he lost and he was not concentrating on his game...
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You mean like Archer??? LOL

I dont know. Sigel sure seemed to play the table and not the opponent in the LJJ match, simply because LJJ only got to the table a handful of times, he didnt have much of an opponent to play.
 
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I dont think LJJ could of ever won that and Ive said it before - I would bet money that she was told " If you find out that during the match you might win, dont. I dont think she would care ... she was gettin PAID
 
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