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I have no interest in rehashing any of those things because they only produce an endless loop of insanity with you guys.

My review of Stan's first DVD is out there and I did him a mitzvah by refusing to review the second, though it was sent to me by another skeptic requesting I review it also. My other comments are out there too, which you will undoubtably continue to twist and take out of context. So, no thanks, I'm not playing.

Saying, "But the Emperor has no clothes!" does not make me evil. It just makes me an astute and honest observer. For any number of reasons, that appears to cause you angst, to gnash your teeth and rend your garments. I'm good with that :-)

Ya'll carry on now.

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A mitzvah? as if your review on AZB has any weight anyway.

You're evil, because you do this maliciously and always have. From the very first insulting comment you ever made to me on this subject until now you have never been willing to budge one millimeter on the subject.

It's not a matter of objectively reviewing this method. You have been biased from day one against any and all methods connected to Hal Houle. So don't pretend you did anyone any favors. You are not significant and never have been except to be a thorn.

As this thread attests to your influence is tiny compared to the positive influence we are having on YouTube.

So even though you are evil you have no influence beyond the tiny amount of people who bother to follow these discussions on AZB.
 
One. And can be used on many shots.

That's where many have a problem, its just not possible without the fudge factor.
Many of you are in denial about that, its ok.


The fudge factor in play.

Really watch Stans 5 shots with the same line up.
Notice how the shots get steeper, Stans starts gearing the balls(rotating the balls)
till he comes to the right shot line. The same line up added fudge factor. ;)

Can you not see it?
 
That's where many have a problem, its just not possible without the fudge factor.

Many of you are in denial about that, its ok.





The fudge factor in play.



Really watch Stans 5 shots with the same line up.

Notice how the shots get steeper, Stans starts gearing the balls(rotating the balls)

till he comes to the right shot line. The same line up added fudge factor. ;)



Can you not see it?


He doesn't gear anything, he follows the perception which ends on a slightly thinner cut on each ball. He may put a touch more outside spin on the thinner cuts which makes sense, there is more twist on the ball as you get closer to a half ball hit. That isn't CTE, that is experience with the given shot.


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He doesn't gear anything, he follows the perception which ends on a slightly thinner cut on each ball. He may put a touch more outside spin on the thinner cuts which makes sense, there is more twist on the ball as you get closer to a half ball hit. That isn't CTE, that is experience with the given shot.


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Gearing the ball's ..rotating them. Same thing!
Did you read the part about denial?
 
Gearing the ball's ..rotating them. Same thing!
Did you read the part about denial?

Did you read the hundreds of posts on this board about how CTE perception works? It's like it goes in one ear and out the other, then you end up arguing the same points again. You saw the movie Groundhog day? It's seems a lot like that. I explained it all in vivid detail to Dan earlier in this post.
 
That's where many have a problem, its just not possible without the fudge factor.
Many of you are in denial about that, its ok.


The fudge factor in play.

Really watch Stans 5 shots with the same line up.
Notice how the shots get steeper, Stans starts gearing the balls(rotating the balls)
till he comes to the right shot line. The same line up added fudge factor. ;)

Can you not see it?

It's always helpful if you take a minute and find the video you refer to.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1Psy5hOJT0

Rotating the balls?

No I don't see what you are talking about.

First off all Stan has ZERO reason to make such a video IF what he says is not true. If the same Edge to A perception doesn't actually work for all the shots then why make the video. What many of you don't get is that the videos are made to show results that have been discovered through use of the system. They aren't made to impart something that isn't true.

What Stan is saying and demonstrating is that the CTE line puts him at a different offset each shot so that the only place to pick up both the cte line and the edge to a line is in ONLY one place for each shot and different than every other shot. Yet the same perception works for each of the shots.

He is clearly showing that using the system objectively as prescribed leads him to a sot line without knowing if that line is right or not. He simply looks at the CTE and Edge to A line until they both appear in perspective and goes into the shot from there. No fudge factor, in fact the opposite of it.

Again there is zero reason at this point for Stan to make this video UNLESS the information is correct.

BTW - this video 9200 views.
 
It's always helpful if you take a minute and find the video you refer to.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1Psy5hOJT0

Rotating the balls?

No I don't see what you are talking about.

First off all Stan has ZERO reason to make such a video IF what he says is not true. If the same Edge to A perception doesn't actually work for all the shots then why make the video. What many of you don't get is that the videos are made to show results that have been discovered through use of the system. They aren't made to impart something that isn't true.

What Stan is saying and demonstrating is that the CTE line puts him at a different offset each shot so that the only place to pick up both the cte line and the edge to a line is in ONLY one place for each shot and different than every other shot. Yet the same perception works for each of the shots.

He is clearly showing that using the system objectively as prescribed leads him to a sot line without knowing if that line is right or not. He simply looks at the CTE and Edge to A line until they both appear in perspective and goes into the shot from there. No fudge factor, in fact the opposite of it.

Again there is zero reason at this point for Stan to make this video UNLESS the information is correct.

BTW - this video 9200 views.

Turn your volume up.(listen to Stan) Watch his body move to the left more on the steeper shots. Why is his body moving more on the thinner cuts??:confused:

 
Turn your volume up.(listen to Stan) Watch his body move to the left more on the steeper shots. Why is his body moving more on the thinner cuts??:confused:





Because it's thinner! Really, a given perception is not one physical angle. You know that by now yes? Did you follow your own advice and listen to Stan? Did you read anything JB just posted? I feel like you are just trolling now.


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Because it's thinner! Really, a given perception is not one physical angle. You know that by now yes? Did you follow your own advice and listen to Stan? Did you read anything JB just posted? I feel like you are just trolling now.


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Are you taught to line up cte and edge to A in this case??(the 5 shots)
A should be in only one place. I would bet your life that the edge of the cb on the last shot. the thinnest one , the edge of the cb is actually more towards the center of the object ball. To make my point, start at 10:34 and PAY attention. That back cut might be the same angle or a little thicker then the thinnest of the 5 shots. Stan calls a cte an edge to B on that shot, why? And before you say something stupid and call me a troll again, remember I know the table angles well, you wont get shit by me:smile: Promise.

And maybe a word of advice, your help is only helping further along the Problems.
Its not your fault. Your just not to smart about some things. You seem like a good person though.:smile:
 
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Are you taught to line up cte and edge to A in this case??(the 5 shots)
A should be in only one place. I would bet your life that the edge of the cb on the last shot. the thinnest one , the edge of the cb is actually more towards the center of the object ball. To make my point, start at 10:34 and PAY attention. That back cut might be the same angle or a little thicker then the thinnest of the 5 shots. Stan calls a cte an edge to B on that shot why? And before you say something stupid and call me a troll again, remember I no the table angles well, you wont get shit by me:smile: Promise.

And maybe a word of advice, your help is only helping further along the Problems.
Its not your fault. Your just not to smart about some things. You seem like a good person though.:smile:

I'm sorry that you cannot see your own faults, and instead push them onto me. You don't understand the material you are trying to argue about. CTE is not a system of angles. If you take a specific angle, say 42 degrees, it may be a CTEL/A on one shot, and CTEL/B on another. There is no rigid lines that say "when you reach angle X, change perceptions". Ball positions on the table matter. Here are the two shots you refer to, shooting to upper right pocket:



So, if you take the system to the table and try a CTEL/A on the first shot with the 1 ball, it won't work. I'll bet that is the bank to the upper left pocket. But a CTEL/B does work. Now apply CTEL/A to the lower shot with the 3 ball, it works with the upper right pocket. Is the B shot a lesser angle than A shot? Maybe. Angles are not an indicator of the correct shot. Perception is, and experience and shot tests confirm that.
 
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I'm sorry that you cannot see your own faults, and instead push them onto me. You don't understand the material you are trying to argue about. CTE is not a system of angles. If you take a specific angle, say 42 degrees, it may be a CTEL/A on one shot, and CTEL/B on another. There is no rigid lines that say "when you reach angle X, change perceptions". Ball positions on the table matter. Here are the two shots you refer to, shooting to upper right pocket:



So, if you take the system to the table and try a CTEL/A on the first shot with the 1 ball, it won't work. I'll bet that is the bank to the upper left pocket. But a CTEL/B does work. Now apply CTEL/A to the lower shot with the 3 ball, it works with the upper right pocket. Is the B shot a lesser angle than A shot? Maybe. Angles are not an indicator of the correct shot. Perception is, and experience and shot tests confirm that.

Mohrt, would you believe me if I told you , you make no sense?
 
I'm sorry that you cannot see your own faults, and instead push them onto me. You don't understand the material you are trying to argue about. CTE is not a system of angles. If you take a specific angle, say 42 degrees, it may be a CTEL/A on one shot, and CTEL/B on another. There is no rigid lines that say "when you reach angle X, change perceptions". Ball positions on the table matter. Here are the two shots you refer to, shooting to upper right pocket:



So, if you take the system to the table and try a CTEL/A on the first shot with the 1 ball, it won't work. I'll bet that is the bank to the upper left pocket. But a CTEL/B does work. Now apply CTEL/A to the lower shot with the 3 ball, it works with the upper right pocket. Is the B shot a lesser angle than A shot? Maybe. Angles are not an indicator of the correct shot. Perception is, and experience and shot tests confirm that.


The balls have the same relationship. The shot that requires a b is actually a thicker cut then the one that he done with an A. what??:eek:

Your right Mohrty,,I must be a stupid troll.:)
 
The balls have the same relationship. The shot that requires a b is actually a thicker cut then the one that he done with an A. what??:eek:

Your right Mohrty,,I must be a stupid troll.:)

Must I repeat myself... again? CTE is not a system of angles. There is no cut-off angle where one perception stops and another starts... it completely depends on the position of the balls on the table. It can be confirmed by going to the table and testing the shots. It is the perception that matters, not the physical angle of the given shot. Do you need that repeated again? just cut and paste for me. Thanks.
 
Must I repeat myself... again? CTE is not a system of angles. There is no cut-off angle where one perception stops and another starts... it completely depends on the position of the balls on the table. It can be confirmed by going to the table and testing the shots. It is the perception that matters, not the physical angle of the given shot. Do you need that repeated again? just cut and paste for me. Thanks.

Its evident you cant establish between what is real and isnt.
We can agree on the relationship of the balls right?(the same) , the angle?.(different)

Like I said before, your not to smart on this subject.:)
 
Turn your volume up.(listen to Stan) Watch his body move to the left more on the steeper shots. Why is his body moving more on the thinner cuts??:confused:


Stan explains it in the video.

1. He says for example purposes he starts at center center and then moves into the perception where he can see both lines. He normally doesn't do that so the movement is exaggerated.

2. Each shot has a different center to edge line in relation to the table.

You can clearly see this starting in this segment where Stan moves from shot 5 to shot 1 and explains the differences in body placement even though both shots use the same edge to a perception.

https://youtu.be/-1Psy5hOJT0?t=326
 
Its evident you cant establish between what is real and isnt.
We can agree on the relationship of the balls right?(the same) , the angle?.(different)

Like I said before, your not to smart on this subject.:)

Neither are you.

Not only can Mohrt understand the subject far better than you can he can also punctuate properly and refrain from insulting you.

Again, at this point Stan has ZERO reason to make a video like this with five different shots where the same perception solution works unless it's true.

Read that again.

UNLESS IT IS TRUE.

All he is doing in this video is demonstrating a phenomena that he has observed inside the system. He has zero need to demonstrate this to sell more videos. He doesn't even need to do it to help his students. The ONLY reason to do it is to say, hey look what I found...
 
Stan explains it in the video.

1. He says for example purposes he starts at center center and then moves into the perception where he can see both lines. He normally doesn't do that so the movement is exaggerated.

2. Each shot has a different center to edge line in relation to the table.

You can clearly see this starting in this segment where Stan moves from shot 5 to shot 1 and explains the differences in body placement even though both shots use the same edge to a perception.

https://youtu.be/-1Psy5hOJT0?t=326



Explain to me why a thicker cut(the one at 10:34) was made with an b lineup,
When a thinner cut was made with an A. And the same angle was made with an A in the first 5 shots.

Do you really think you have some special knowledge over others, what you say is golden, let me enlighten you, your wrong.:smile:

Hopefully I'm helping you in some way.:smile:
 
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