Miscue with Taom v10 chalk

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How did the pro's overcome the miscues with v10 chalk? Did they adjust their miscue limit on the CB, and stop hitting as far out on the CB edges as they use to?

People say it is a stroke issue but I strongly believe the the grittier chalks let you hit, or give you a larger miscue limit.

Does Taom V10 and other soft chalks give you the same spin as grittier/harder chalks without having to hit as far outside on the cueball?
 
I was miscuing a few times during a game. I attribute it to the V10 being off (not 100%). Maybe it accumulated moisture ...or I was applying too much.
 
From my experience, all chalks, at least the reliable ones perform the same in terms of spin, the difference lies in at least my case is how dirty my hands gets after prolonged use. The Taom chalks are the cleanest from my experience (Master, Silver Cup and Blue Diamond).
 
I use the Pyro and its shit. Its good because its clean but you still have to apply after every shot or every other shot. They promoted it as chalk that doesn't need to be chalked every shot.

The only good thing about this chalk is that its clean.

Besides that I have miscue and fly the cue ball off the table more this year than my entire life playing pool. I've developed a reputation for it. When they see a cue ball on the ground most of the regulars know its from me.

When I use a master chalk, you would seldom see my fly a cue ball off the table. Maybe once a year at most.
 
No player I've encountered has ever made the claim that V10 has a more restrictive miscue limit than other chalks. Empirical testing by Dr. Dave has shown that all chalks appear to have the same miscue limit, and give the same spin (relative to cue ball speed).

You are likely misinterpreting what you are seeing, or mis-assigning the cause (eg, you are using V10 on a cue with a poorly shaped tip, and thinking it's the chalk).
 
Rocket354 said:
No player I've encountered has ever made the claim that V10 has a more restrictive miscue limit than other chalks. Empirical testing by Dr. Dave has shown that all chalks appear to have the same miscue limit, and give the same spin (relative to cue ball speed).

You are likely misinterpreting what you are seeing, or mis-assigning the cause (eg, you are using V10 on a cue with a poorly shaped tip, and thinking it's the chalk).
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Did you learn how to play pool from a book? I remember those guys carrying a book and their cues with them in the 90's. I was once handed a book and flipped through it and gave it back.

In real world applications, in my opinion, these chalks aren't very good.
 
Rocket354 said:
No player I've encountered has ever made the claim that V10 has a more restrictive miscue limit than other chalks. Empirical testing by Dr. Dave has shown that all chalks appear to have the same miscue limit, and give the same spin (relative to cue ball speed).

You are likely misinterpreting what you are seeing, or mis-assigning the cause (eg, you are using V10 on a cue with a poorly shaped tip, and thinking it's the chalk).
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I have noticed more miscues with Taom v10. So I have been investigating, wondering if I'm just crazy. But I have seen multiple reviews and threads of people mentioning the same issue.

Last night I was watching this match. The commentators were talking about the Taom chalk issues. This was the nail in the coffin for me: (14:19, but conversation starts a little before that)
 
I think skids are more prevalent than before exotic chalks, just my opinion from watching years of matches being played.
In the past matches,say early 2000's you rarely heard a commentator mention a skid, nowadays it's common. One guy, I forget who it was,actually blamed Shane who ironically was probably the only player using Master chalk because he was using Master.
 
I have been rated at 90-100 speed in my 20’s before my hiatus from the game.

Yes flying the cue ball off the table every session is quite bothering.

So the dilemma is risk embarrassment or keep on using the clean chalk to keep my 5k cue clean.

That’s my problem.
 
If you are cueing at the miscue limit of 55% then the chalk type is negligible compared to tip accuracy variation. You have to go with controlled empirical data, such as Dr Dave’s experiment mentioned earlier, rather than from emotional attachment to traditional equipment.

Remember, it is just sand.
 
cueball2010 said:
I have noticed more miscues with Taom v10. So I have been investigating, wondering if I'm just crazy. But I have seen multiple reviews and threads of people mentioning the same issue.

Last night I was watching this match. The commentators were talking about the Taom chalk issues. This was the nail in the coffin for me: (14:19, but conversation starts a little before that)
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They were talking mainly about how everyone uses Taom and that skids have virtually disappeared. There was a single mention of some players having miscues when Taom was brand new but not anymore. If anything it was a positive endorsement for Taom
 
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cueball2010 said:
I have noticed more miscues with Taom v10. So I have been investigating, wondering if I'm just crazy. But I have seen multiple reviews and threads of people mentioning the same issue.

Last night I was watching this match. The commentators were talking about the Taom chalk issues. This was the nail in the coffin for me: (14:19, but conversation starts a little before that)
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I've notice alot more skids when playing against people using these new chalks. I've mentioned it here in the past and people think I'm crazy 🙂
 
billiards_watch said:
I use the Pyro and its shit. Its good because its clean but you still have to apply after every shot or every other shot. They promoted it as chalk that doesn't need to be chalked every shot.

The only good thing about this chalk is that its clean.

Besides that I have miscue and fly the cue ball off the table more this year than my entire life playing pool. I've developed a reputation for it. When they see a cue ball on the ground most of the regulars know its from me.

When I use a master chalk, you would seldom see my fly a cue ball off the table. Maybe once a year at most.
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you need to ditch the pyro and get v10
jmho
i dont find mis cues an issue
i do find occasionally it seems to build up so i give it a light scuff
not a big deal
 
cueball2010 said:
How did the pro's overcome the miscues with v10 chalk? Did they adjust their miscue limit on the CB, and stop hitting as far out on the CB edges as they use to?

People say it is a stroke issue but I strongly believe the the grittier chalks let you hit, or give you a larger miscue limit.

Does Taom V10 and other soft chalks give you the same spin as grittier/harder chalks without having to hit as far outside on the cueball?
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My experience is that I miscue a little more often with Taom and I tried the Pyro and V10. It makes sense that a grittier chalk has more grip, from a physics point of view. Another benefit for me using Master's chalk is that I rarely have to scuff my tip as the abrasive chalk seems to keep the tip from glazing over. The downsides seems to be the chalk is a little messier, but not on the level of predator chalk which I finda bit gooey.
 
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