MODS/Owners: Why Is Bill Stroud Still A Member Here?

[CocoboloCowboy]

You must have missed the part where I asked for just the az mods/owners to respond in this thread.

I believe you can ask your question, but there is no guarantee the azb mods/owners will reply to you. But you can keep track of Mr. Strouds activity on the link below.

Bill Stroud has been a forum Visitor, as recently as Last Activity: 12-10-2012 09:20 AM. Plus has a GREAT I-Trade Reputation.

 

[JMuck]

Let's start at a $5000 Big f'in deal,and that's just the start.

Really,does anybody know the fair market value of the cue at the point of the very first post in the very first thread and if they do provide that value would they care to speculate on what that value is now considering it may be the last cue this man would ever make.Of course the last cue he ever made is probably still in his private collection now.

When I first started reading the first promotional thread,from start to finish in one siting, my feeling was that it's Stroud's promotion and he can do anything he wanted to with it,but my feelings changed somewhat when it became apparent that the winner was unemployed and doing his best to make it day to day.If somebody like Fatboy or some other well healed collector or an industry leader like Mark Griffin had won the promotion that cue would have been produced toot suite.

With every click made and page opened we the the average Joes are the ones who occupy the most space and pay the most bills on this site.Every click creates value,of varying degree's,for Stroud,AZ and its advertisers.Stroud seems to have got just what he wanted and didn't have to pay jack.

No one likes to find out they have been suckered,even just a little bit,or just a click.

The poor guy who won got robbed emotionaly and financially.

 

[EagleMan]

Hello eagleman;

I'm aware the mods can be pm'd, however, this was not a private matter that affected our community so, therefore, I thought it would be appropriate to ask via public thread for a clarification on why Bill Stroud is still allowed to be active here.

My intent in this thread was not to bash Bill Stroud, but rather, to get az management's position on this.

And, of course I have no "controlling authority" here.

I simply *requested* that fellow az'ers resist the temptation to chime in here until the mods had a chance to provide some clarity. And especially since there is no shortage of other Bill Stroud related threads in which opinions are being posted.

Sorry if it struck you wrong.

Happy holidays.
best,
brian kc

No worries. Just bustin' your chops!! (-:

MERRY EVERYTHING!

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EagleMan

 

[EagleMan]

As I stated in another thread, the creator of the winning design ABSOLUTELY has a copyright in that design...which...under the circumstances, he might want to register with the Copyright Office.

I think that costs about 50 bucks these days. You don't HAVE to register copyrights for them to be valid...but you can't file suit for infringment without having registered which you can do AFTER the infringement. No big deal.

None of the above makes any difference if Stroud doesn't USE the design.

So, in addition, DEPENDING ON WHAT EXACTLY the Stroud offer stated, the winner would ABSOLUTELY have an action for fraud and could even file such an action in his local "small claims court" without an attorney (in many but not all states).

Actually, given the use of an instrumentality of interstate commerce (the internet) the claim could be filed in FEDERAL court! (But then you're talkin' size large legal fees).

Assuming Stroud doesn't present a defense, at least the winner could get a default judgment...which would be at least suitable for framing.

If it was me, I'd do that just for the FUN of it.

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EagleMan

DISCLAIMER:....I AM NOT A LAWYER. I DON'T EVEN LIKE LAWYERS...NOT EVEN MY OWN...THE ABOVE IS MERELY MY PERSONAL LAYMAN'S OPINION.

 

[justadub]

I wish either the cue would be made or a explanation would be made by mr. Stroud because these type of threads are not only extremely pointless but very annoying. I come here to read about pool not listen to people complain about a issue that happened years ago..

Then quite simply don't read these threads. There are dozens of threads that hit the first page every day. I don't read every thread that appears on the front page, do you? And if a thread such as this bothers you, why would you click on it?

 

[punter]

Excuse me...but the Mods can be PM'd. If you post on a public forum...over which you have NO controlling authority...whether people respon or not is their business, not yours.

CLEARLY since you didn't PM the Mods...your purpose was to publically BASH Mr. Stroud...who may or may not deserve it. I haven't followed that saga.

But if you express your OPINION on that subject...in public...then others have just as much right to post in this thread as you had to created it.

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EagleMan

Yes, Indeed.

 

[JMuck]

As I stated in another thread, the creator of the winning design ABSOLUTELY has a copyright in that design...which...under the circumstances, he might want to register with the Copyright Office.

I think that costs about 50 bucks these days. You don't HAVE to register copyrights for them to be valid...but you can't file suit for infringment without having registered which you can do AFTER the infringement. No big deal.

None of the above makes any difference if Stroud doesn't USE the design.

So, in addition, DEPENDING ON WHAT EXACTLY the Stroud offer stated, the winner would ABSOLUTELY have an action for fraud and could even file such an action in his local "small claims court" without an attorney (in many but not all states).

Actually, given the use of an instrumentality of interstate commerce (the internet) the claim could be filed in FEDERAL court! (But then you're talkin' size large legal fees).

Assuming Stroud doesn't present a defense, at least the winner could get a default judgment...which would be at least suitable for framing.

If it was me, I'd do that just for the FUN of it.

(-:

EagleMan

DISCLAIMER:....I AM NOT A LAWYER. I DON'T EVEN LIKE LAWYERS...NOT EVEN MY OWN...THE ABOVE IS MERELY MY PERSONAL LAYMAN'S OPINION.

For me the discussion wasn't necessarily about copyright value but about the sheer value of the cue at the time of the presentation.What does a cue with this detail command dollar wise.It seems funny to me that no cue makers or people in the know haven't tried to put a value to it.Maybe it is in another section.I don't think I have the energy to wade through volumes of info again.

CliffsNotes for AZ anyone.

 

[RG1]

Stroud came on here with a contest asking everyone to design a cue and send it to him and he will pick a winner and that winner will get his design made, something like that. Guess who won and got stiffed

Why did you red rep me for this post i made Kicken Chicken

 

[iusedtoberich]

Come on guys, this all sucks, but no one lost a dime. Stroud's moral compass was either never strong (as some people in other threads that have known him for years alluded to), or went down a notch during this contest. But one would have to be absolutely nuts to sue the man for a cue worth a couple thousand bucks. The judge would laugh in their face. No losses occurred to anyone. Fooling around making drawings and posting them on AZ is not a loss of money, which is what a court would compensate for.

Btw, I'm not a Stroud supporter. I think what he did stinks, but it is nowhere NEAR a civil law case, or an AZ banning.

Those are my 2 cents as an armchair lawyer. Happy holidays to all.

 

[punter]

Hello eagleman;

I'm aware the mods can be pm'd, however, this was not a private matter that affected our community so, therefore, I thought it would be appropriate to ask via public thread for a clarification on why Bill Stroud is still allowed to be active here.

My intent in this thread was not to bash Bill Stroud, but rather, to get az management's position on this.

And, of course I have no "controlling authority" here.

I simply *requested* that fellow az'ers resist the temptation to chime in here until the mods had a chance to provide some clarity. And especially since there is no shortage of other Bill Stroud related threads in which opinions are being posted.

Sorry if it struck you wrong.

Happy holidays.

best,
brian kc

Brian decided to give me red for giving my opinion on this subject. I said nothing derisive, simply expressed my opinion. Thanks, little man.

And the mods don't owe you any explanation about anything to do with Bill Stroud. If you don't like it, why don't you open your own site and run it as you please. You tell me to quit clicking on threads where I disagree with something, I'll tell you mind your own business. Go to another site if you don't like how this one is run. You made a bad bet, get over it.