Money taken off the calcutta without any prior announcement, is that normal?

watchez said:
This was a WPA event?

I'm kinda lost in your post and what you are trying to say
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[and $3200 in green fees /I]



I was lost at this . No it wasn't a WPA event , but what does the WPA provide for their sanctioning fee ?Do you know the overhead for a poolroom ? Did they break even ? What would be the motivation for someone to host a pool tournament but to make money.
 
boradriver said:
Raking the Calcutta for a percentage is very common practice and were a lot of TD make their money. Another way they can make some money is charging a yearly membership fee. I don't have a problem with either option as long as its spelled out. By the looks of the picture posted this/these TD did just that.

How can someone go run a tournament all weekend or even longer at times and be expected not to get some kind of compensation. The more successful the event the more they should make.
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I get what you are saying.
Lots of TD s get 20 percent of entry fees. That plus 10 percent of a 30k auction is a huge payday

I just ran a no fee 100 percent event, with auction paying 100 percent and no greens fee. Just trying to keep big pool going.
 
HelloBaby- said:
That's what happened at the Texas Open 10-ball.
Many pros were there including CJ Wiley so they can confirm this but I'm 99.99% sure there was no formal announcement at the player meeting about the 10% off the calcutta going in the pocket of TD. There was also no mention of that at all in the flyer.
They basically took +3K off the calcutta behind players' backs.

Opinion? Is that a common practice?
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It's common here in OK also. Can't expect the TD to work for free. We're very happy with that set up. I just appreciate have a tournament to play in.:thumbup:
 
HelloBaby- said:
That's what happened at the Texas Open 10-ball.
Many pros were there including CJ Wiley so they can confirm this but I'm 99.99% sure there was no formal announcement at the player meeting about the 10% off the calcutta going in the pocket of TD. There was also no mention of that at all in the flyer.
They basically took +3K off the calcutta behind players' backs.

Opinion? Is that a common practice?
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Pool, is all about get away with anything you can to an awful lot of people.
Be thankful they didn't leave town with everything.
If they keep having tournaments , that will probably be their going away present to everyone on the final one.
 
cueenvy said:
I get what you are saying.
Lots of TD s get 20 percent of entry fees. That plus 10 percent of a 30k auction is a huge payday

I just ran a no fee 100 percent event, with auction paying 100 percent and no greens fee. Just trying to keep big pool going.
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No one will thank you-trust me
 
Nostroke said:
You cant expect the place to handle $20K in bills from 40 different guys, take the risk of it being stolen, lost; do all the accounting etc for nothing. I know if you asked me to do it, i couldnt say no quick enough-All risk and no reward?-Save it!!

They should announce it yes but it should be expected also.
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You shouldn't be in a Calcutta if you don't know the answer to this first grade question before hand. It happens without fail, with the exception possibly in tiny tourneys with no high end players in the tournament.
 
I can think of at least one promotor who had to take a vacation on the tax papers dime due to not reporting his 10% juice to the IRS. And he had a hell of a tour.
 
Nostroke said:
No one will thank you-trust me
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Actually quite the opposite

No *****ing about handicaps
No sore losers
Just a celebration of the game. ..players are thankful to have a great room to play out of.

Anybody knocks a full payout event is crazy
 
I wonder how much this TD and his "plants" bid up the players to maximize profits.
Hhmmmmm.
 
SUPERSTAR said:
I wonder how much this TD and his "plants" bid up the players to maximize profits.
Hhmmmmm.
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If nobody bids against them, then they are stuck with the player. Hard to bid somebody up like that. I can see it in an auction of an item - you just keep the item ( your bidder gets it and you retry) if it doesnt go high enough
 
jasonlaus said:
If nobody bids against them, then they are stuck with the player. Hard to bid somebody up like that. I can see it in an auction of an item - you just keep the item ( your bidder gets it and you retry) if it doesnt go high enough
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True.
But I know a couple of savvy TDs who know which individuals and corporations are absolutely positively going to keep bidding till they have their horse.
Like clockwork. Never fails.
I mean, most of the people in the room kinda know that stuff if they are familiar with the crowd. They know what's what before the bidding begins.

Plus, how many times have we seen a TD have a couple of horses all to themselves, and then manipulate things?
This is pool you know. Lol
 
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