More Diamond 7' bounce

[Chili Palmer]

I went back to the hall yesterday and played on the 9 footers again. I was messing around for about 15-20 minutes (banking, kicking, long straigh t shots, etc, just having fun) and the banks were interesting. If you played a soft bank it went WAY wide and if you stiffened it it was shortened WAY too much. It was very hard to adjust to, doable but I never really did get consistent results.

 

[iusedtoberich]

It's made by Global, not Brunswick.

Well it's branded Brunswick, manufactured by Global. It plays very nicely. I watched Savanah Easton play on it in the Brunswick booth at the Expo this year for about 10 minutes and it was bouncing really nicely. (10 feet away the Diamond 7' tables were some of the bounciest Diamonds I've ever played on in 25 years).

I don't know for fact if it has SuperSpeed cushions or not. I just checked the Brunswick site for its specs, and the cushion is not listed. However, on the Brunswick 7' Black Wolf Table, it does say SuperSpeed. Either it has another cushion, or the Brunswick website people missed listing it.

 

[iusedtoberich]

I would pay for one of your stimpmeters and do tests on my 9' diamond, which is under a year old. Well, delivered from diamond and installed within the last year. I do, however, think that when using your stimpmeter to test straight into the rail, the ball should be on the bed/cloth when it hits the nose of the rail, not raised up like in that video you posted.

I have an update with short 40 second video of the design today in that thread. Once/if its working well, I'll send you one for free.

 

[iusedtoberich]

Rails and setups are everything.
We have two rooms in town with 7' diamonds.
They play very consistently in each place, but not at all alike from room to room.
It takes a few minutes to adjust to the conditions but it becomes automatic.
I have played at different rooms with rails so bouncy I played an extra rail for shape because my normal patters could not be played.
That's frustrating and a definite advantage to the local players who frequent the room.
That's life. Just do what Gunny Highway told his men to do.

The thing about that, is that Diamond tables come pre-assembled from the factory, which is a huge improvement to pool tables overall. Yet right from the factory, they play different depending on where they end up. I mean vastly different. One room in PA, Markley Billiards, they bounce just a hair fast, but play really well. Another room I go to in Delaware, HalfTime Sports Bar, they are like a pinball machine on tilt. So that takes the mechanic setup out of the equation, and takes us back to something in the design of the rail assembly is inherently hypersensitive to the final installation environment.

 

[Willowbrook Wolfy]

Rails and setups are everything.
We have two rooms in town with 7' diamonds.
They play very consistently in each place, but not at all alike from room to room.
It takes a few minutes to adjust to the conditions but it becomes automatic.
I have played at different rooms with rails so bouncy I played an extra rail for shape because my normal patters could not be played.
That's frustrating and a definite advantage to the local players who frequent the room.
That's life. Just do what Gunny Highway told his men to do.

That’s where the 3 to 4 rail back and forth happens. People look at me a little funny when instead of coming across twice I opt for 4 times. Like I’m trying to show off. But the diamonds where I play are way too fast to be really consistent at 2 back and forth a lot of times. 3-4 is just closer to my comfort zone. On one specific shot a few weeks ago I had to go up and down the table twice for 2-1/2 table lengths total. It was the only way to get on a ball on the head rail without leaving a low percentage shot. It would normally be only off the head rail and land a diamond up, but there was no way it was going to slow down enough off those rails. So I had to play 2 table lengths.