MOSCONI CUP LIVE (Score Updates)

To Thine Own Self BeTrue

If I were the Captain of the USA Mosconi Cup Team, I would ask my players what is missing from their game as compared to the Europeans. If any one of them said, "Nothing, they are just getting the rolls", then I would bar each player who provided that answer from future Mosconi Cup events.

If they provided valid answers to that question I would make damn sure they were prepared next year, just in case we weren't able to accomplish a mind-meld at that particular event.

I'm further convinced by our player's demeanor even before the first ball was shot that they are NOT EVEN CLOSE TO BEING LOOSE or RELAXED.

I would hire a respected Sports Psychologist to work with them out of THEIR OWN POCKET (yes, not mine as I have my own reasons).

No disrespect to our players but there is something missing from their games besides the mental game, but that is where I would start.

If I found out that any player was demeaning the input of the Sport Psychologist or the coaches that I would bring in, those players would also be barred from playing in the USA Mosconi Cup Team.

Fans who whine about European players living in America would also be barred from attending the Mosconi Cup.

American pool players who undermine my efforts in social media would also be barred from future Mosconi Cup events where I was the Captain.

Fans who ridicule our players in Social Media would also be barred from attending Mosconi Cup events.

This year, my choice for the first singles match would have been Skylar Woodward.

Hell, if I were the Team Captain I would hire the best fundamental coaches on the planet. FAR too many object balls from the U.S. Team hitting the rail just before trickling into the pocket, hanging up or just hitting the points and going elsewhere.

The very short races are putting pressure on the US Team but you can't blame the short races or luck on what's happening.

Okay, okay, I am just a little steamed at what I see happening and apologize to anyone who is offended by my post in advance but I'll stand by my comments and accept your criticism and anyone else's but doubt that I will respond to anyone right now. I was kind of busy today helping a friend who is house bound (surgery recovery) get some Internet access and a computer to watch the Mosconi Cup and got a late start so didn't have a whole lot of time to watch today.

Okay, okay, I am just frustrated a bit more than usual. I might have a few less fans and might chap some of the players's asses but I wouldn't be playing Mr. Nice Guy. If I were Team Captain I might wind up with selecting a bunch of US Amateur Champions but would sure prefer to work with our professional athletes and get them back on track. They are not on track dammit. The vehicle has lost its wheels and steering.

Sorry for the rant and NO I'm not drinking. lol

Maybe I will feel better tomorrow with America having a winning day. :sorry:

JoeyA
 
Death Knell for Mosconi Cup franchise?

What a beating. Matchroom will probably have to truncate Day 3 to 3 matches only so that this will go to Day4
This could match the worse USA loss of 11-2 in 2013 after which Mark Wilson was hired.
Only ones enjoying this hxxxsefcuking are the Europeans LOL

After this loss, the overall historical score is 11-11 so maybe Matchroom has to reconsider recomposing this franchise or it is dead. What are the alternatives to keep this franchise going?
-They could bring in Canada (Alex, John Morra, Jason Klatt sounds good)
-Handicapping system - USA starts with 5-0 headstart? That would be embarrassing
-Europe can only send their B team (#6 to #10 in their rankings)
-Allow non-citizens resident in USA for more than 6 months to play for USA. That means Mika, Thorsten and Filipinos like Orcollo, Ignacio can be arranged to play :thumbup:
 
Matchroom has announced the lineup for Wednesday:

Match 1: Justin Bergman vs. Some random European in the audience
Match 2: Rodney Morris & Ko Pin Yi vs. Boris Johnson and Tony Blair
Match 3: Skyler Woodward & Darren Appleton vs. two random really drunk Europeans in the audience
Match 4: John Morra vs. Queen Elizabeth who forfeits in advance so there can be a day 4
 
Matchroom has announced the lineup for Wednesday:

Match 1: Justin Bergman vs. Some random European in the audience
Match 2: Rodney Morris & Ko Pin Yi vs. Boris Johnson and Tony Blair
Match 3: Skyler Woodward & Darren Appleton vs. two random really drunk Europeans in the audience
Match 4: John Morra vs. Queen Elizabeth who forfeits in advance so there can be a day 4
That's some SERIOUSLY funny s*^t. I think the queen might beat SVB if it goes double-hill.
 
no way, shape or form should bar box results factor into who is a MOSCONI cup member

let's build for the future

i also like the idea of making the cup more inclusive, ie:

Europe
Asia (to include the middle east)
The Americas
Pacific Islands (to include Japan, Taiwan, Aus., etc)

Call it "The Mosconi World Cup" or something to that effect

Instead of seeding (subjective) determine semi-final bracket by "draw", then let the good times roll
 
This has been a Beating of the highest order. nothing to do with the rolls and only one match was lost on the hill. Europe has dominated, period.

this is really embarrassing. American pool appears to be in disarray. Four years since we won a session/day of play. That's just pathetic.

There's an old saying that if one side wins every time, the matchup cannot be called a rivalry. that's about where things stand.

Finally, I'm tired of hearing about how the US dominated this event before Europe took up nine ball. it's meaningless.


Are you serious?

Are you actually saying that if those rolls go the other way it doesn't affect the score and momentum of race to five matches?!

Lou Figueroa
 
They are trying to make day 4, so they don't have to refund the 2000 or so people that bought tickets.
Or maybe Shane got stuck in traffic after he left the venue to take his girlfriend to Hamleys to buy her a few toys.
 
Like USA coach said moments before the first lag (you can find the match in genipool14's YT channel) "We're just gonna try not to suck this year!"
Well, at least you tried!
 
Matchroom has announced the lineup for Wednesday:

Match 1: Justin Bergman vs. Some random European in the audience
Match 2: Rodney Morris & Ko Pin Yi vs. Boris Johnson and Tony Blair
Match 3: Skyler Woodward & Darren Appleton vs. two random really drunk Europeans in the audience
Match 4: John Morra vs. Queen Elizabeth who forfeits in advance so there can be a day 4

That's hilarious. I would like to see them dig up Henry the 8th for the 4th match. He can have someone beheaded and marry a random chick in the audience.
 
If anyone is in touch with Matchroom folks, Please let them know that Bob Byrne passed away last night. Maybe they can mention this with a small tribute to the man that helped most of us with our game at one point or another.

Here is a post on Facebook with a nice quote: Bob passed away at home Tuesday night at 9:30, peacefully and painlessly with his son Russell and wife Cindy at his side. Since he was a man of quotes, this is a good one: "Tears are sometimes an inappropriate response to death. When a life has been lived completely honestly, completely successfully, or just completely, the correct response to death's perfect punctuation mark is a smile." - Julie Burchill

Dave

Thanks Dave. What a wonderful man and a great gift to the billiard world! He had a sneaky sense of humor and a quick mind. I loved that guy! One of my all time favorites in this business. :angel:
 
matchroom has announced the lineup for wednesday:

Match 1: Justin bergman vs. Some random european in the audience
match 2: Rodney morris & ko pin yi vs. Boris johnson and tony blair
match 3: Skyler woodward & darren appleton vs. Two random really drunk europeans in the audience
match 4: John morra vs. Queen elizabeth who forfeits in advance so there can be a day 4

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Okay, here's my take on the proceedings. Stu has got it right, their shot election and execution is superior to ours. That said, we had chances to win every match but failed when given an opportunity to win. It was NOT about the rolls, please save that for your crying towel. We missed more balls and didn't execute our safeties as well. In short matches like this, one error can make the difference and it did today in two of the four matches. When Bergman fouled in game one that took all the starch out of him and Gray just took over after that.

I felt that our players were trying hard today, but other than Justin just couldn't get on track. I feel for Mike Dechaine. He looks much looser than in previous MC, but seems to be over thinking on relatively easy shots, like that 2-9 combo that he butchered. I wanted him to take one look and get up there and make it. You know what they say, "think long, think wrong." Rodney played well to win our lone match, only missing twice in one game. Other than that, he played pretty strong throughout. That win gave our team a lift. Too bad we couldn't capitalize with a win in the doubles afterwards. We sure had our chances to win that KEY match.

I thought Darren played better today and Albin came up with a great shot from the four to the five. By far the most improved European player of the last few years. Albin has transformed himself into a very confident world class player. Jayson has always played great, maturing incredibly since marriage and fatherhood. I fully expect him to play good tomorrow.

As for the abbreviated session, this is not the first time they've done this for television purposes. They would like it to stretch to a fourth day if possible. Maybe we can go 2-2 tomorrow and that way they're guaranteed at least two matches on Day Four. They just did the same thing two years ago and we managed to win two matches on the final day to get to 10-9.

I thought Phil Yates did a nice job on the commentary today and overall I like the team doing it. Jimmy is one of the best imo and Jerry has his good moments as well. :wink: He messed up a couple of times, but give a senior citizen a break already. OMG he's almost as old as me and I'm a dinosaur!

P.S. All this talk about the size and population of Europe compared to the USA is meaningless babble! We have far more pool players here and a lot more opportunities to play. If anything we have them way outnumbered. Bottom line, their best are better than our best. I can remember when Australia with it's small population dominated world tennis. It's not the size of your country that counts, it's the size of your heart!

P.P.S. I'm still not sure that Europe could beat Team Philippines or Team Taiwan for that matter. Again country size and population means little in this equation. Let me pick five top Filipinos and I will take on the world. These guys refuse to lose!
 
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We need 4:1 and we play by the set, to kepp playing.

I can't believe that these guys are playing worse than I do. 'Coming with it' is what they have done to get them where they are.

Go home now. Admit it, we suck and matchRoom needs to revamp its pRoduct..

No, I don't know why my rs are capitalized.

It was said eaRlier by someone that they need a slot for the top armature. I agree...somebody's gotta come with it.
 
All Europe's team is on.They have got a few rolls.Mark G is playing awesome and smart with the safeties.Shane looks tight trying too hard to get the monkey off his back.Rodney looks like he is poking at the ball more than usual.Berg and Mike playing well but not great.Sky looks pressure free.I love this kid..USA is not a team.It's just 5 guys in the same shirts.Europe is a team of guys playing for a common goal.
 
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