Mosconi Cup Stats -- Career Records for Players on 2016 Teams

sjm said:
... Rodney found his form again after a few nondescript years, making his performance is hard to predict. No doubt, he earned his spot, and he certainly has the experience needed, but I'd suggest he played his best pool early in the year, so I'm a bit concerned. ...
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And it will be interesting to see whether Morris can right the ship purely with respect to his Mosconi Cup appearances. Here's a post I made last week in another thread:


  • Morris used to have a great Mosconi record, but not any more. His record is bifurcated:

    • First 4 appearances: 7-0 singles, 7-3 doubles, 2-0 trebles, 2-0 teams, 18-3 total (winning percentage of 86%)

    • Last 5 appearances: 2-8 singles, 4-12 doubles, 1-4 teams, 7-24 total (23%)

    • All 9 appearances: 9-8 singles, 11-15 doubles, 2-0 trebles, 3-4 teams, 25-27 total (48%)

[And last 4 appearances -- in one winning match and 5 losing matches each year.]
 
Niels Feijen has fantastic stats in double. However, I suspect the majority of those matches were together with Nick van den Berg. They worked great together.

Nick is not playing this year, so Europe can lose an edge in the doubles matches.

I was surprised to see Appletons relatively weak stats in doubles also. Thought he and Boyes together had done better in previous years.
 
pooladdict said:
Niels Feijen has fantastic stats in double. However, I suspect the majority of those matches were together with Nick van den Berg. They worked great together.

Nick is not playing this year, so Europe can lose an edge in the doubles matches.

I was surprised to see Appletons relatively weak stats in doubles also. Thought he and Boyes together had done better in previous years.
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Niels is just a freak when playing MC. He plays well with anyone not only his WCOP partner NVB
That is why he holds record for most MVP of 4
 
pooladdict said:
Niels Feijen has fantastic stats in double. However, I suspect the majority of those matches were together with Nick van den Berg. They worked great together.

Nick is not playing this year, so Europe can lose an edge in the doubles matches.

I was surprised to see Appletons relatively weak stats in doubles also. Thought he and Boyes together had done better in previous years.
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Only 3 of Feijen's 31 doubles matches have been with Van den Berg as his partner. They have 1 win and 2 losses together.

Only 4 of Appleton's 21 doubles matches have been with Boyes as his partner. They have 3 wins and 1 loss together.
 
AtLarge...
...best American stats overall....
...is it Johnny Archer....or Earl Strickland?
 
pt109 said:
AtLarge...
...best American stats overall....
...is it Johnny Archer....or Earl Strickland?
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Number of winning and losing matches in which each player has been involved:
  • • Johnny Archer (17 years) ..... 17-13 singles, 27-23 doubles, 1-1 trebles, 5-4 teams, 50-41 total (winning percentage of 55%)
    • Earl Strickland (14 years) ..... 14-12 singles, 24-12 doubles, 2-0 trebles, 3-2 teams, 43-26 total (62%)
    • Corey Deuel (9 years) ..... 7-6 singles, 13-12 doubles, 2-0 trebles, 5-2 teams, 27-20 total (57%)

Numerical contribution each player has made to the overall Mosconi Cup match scores:
  • • Archer ..... 31.8 - 25.6 (winning percentage 55%)
    • Strickland ..... 27.2 - 18.4 (60%)
    • Deuel ..... 15.1 - 12.4 (55%)

But Strickland's winning percentage isn't the best. Jeanette Lee and Vivian Villarreal have both participated in 5 Mosconi Cup matches (1994) without a loss = 100%. :)

[And some other players who have participated in just a small number of Cups might have good percentages.]
 
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pooladdict said:
Niels Feijen has fantastic stats in double.
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I noticed that too, it's freakishly good... everyone else, on both USA and Europe,
has a losing record or at best a tie in doubles (except albin, but he's only played one event, going 2-1).

Yet Niels has this absurd stat where he not only has a winning record,
he wins more than twice as often as he loses, when partnered up with someone.

I think he must just dig out some insane 7th gear when he plays with a parter,
like he feels some responsibility to not let the other guy down, or maybe
he doesn't want to be the first to screw up.

Could be an example of one of those intangible things like "team chemistry"
revealing itself through stats.
 
pooladdict said:
Niels Feijen has fantastic stats in double. ....
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Here are Feijen's 31 Mosconi Cup doubles matches to date (losses in red):

2001
w/ Immonen vs. Archer & Varner -- 5-3
w/ Immonen vs. Archer & Varner -- 4-5

2004
w/ Davis vs. Robles & Williams -- 5-4
w/ Davis vs. Archer & Owen -- 5-3
w/ Davis vs. Robles & Williams -- 3-5

2005
w/ Hohmann vs. Archer & Jones -- 5-1
w/ Hohmann vs. Putnam & Williams -- 4-5
w/ Lely vs. Putnam & Williams -- 5-3

2007
w/ Souquet vs. Archer & Morris -- 6-4
w/ Stepanov vs. Archer & Deuel -- 6-1
w/ Stepanov vs. Archer & Deuel -- 6-2

2008
w/ Souquet vs. Morris & Van Boening -- 5-3
w/ Souquet vs. Morris & Van Boening -- 5-3
w/ Souquet vs. Morris & Strickland -- 5-1
w/ Souquet vs. Jones & Morris -- 5-2

2009
w/ Appleton vs. Archer & Hatch -- 5-6
w/ Souquet vs. Archer & Van Boening -- 2-6
w/ Hohmann vs. Deuel & Hatch -- 6-1

2011
w/ Van den Berg vs. Archer & Van Boening -- 5-6
w/ Appleton vs. Dechaine & Putman -- 6-3
w/ Souquet vs. Archer & Morris -- 6-2

2012
w/ Van den Berg vs. Hatch & Shuff -- 5-2
w/ Appleton vs. Archer & Van Boening -- 4-5
w/ Ekonomopoulos vs. Dechaine & Hatch -- 5-4

2013
w/ Souquet vs. Archer & Hatch -- 6-3
w/ Boyes vs. Archer & Morris -- 6-4
w/ Immonen vs. Hatch & Morris -- 6-4

2014
w/ Ekonomopoulos vs. Bergman & Van Boening -- 5-1
w/ Gray vs. Bergman & Hall -- 2-5

2015
w/ Van den Berg vs. Bergman & Woodward -- 3-5
w/ Ouschan vs. Bergman & Deuel -- 5-1

TOTAL -- 22-9 in matches (winning percentage 71%), 151-103 in games (winning percentage 59%)
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• 7-0 in doubles matches against Morris
• 7-1 in doubles matches with Souquet
• Largest winning streaks are 8 and 5
• Largest losing streak is 2, twice
 
AtLarge said:
Number of winning and losing matches in which each player has been involved:
  • • Johnny Archer (17 years) ..... 18-13 singles, 26-23 doubles, 0-2 trebles, 5-4 teams, 49-42 total (winning percentage of 54%)
    • Earl Strickland (14 years) ..... 14-12 singles, 24-12 doubles, 1-1 trebles, 3-2 teams, 42-27 total (61%)
    • Corey Deuel (9 years) ..... 7-6 singles, 13-12 doubles, 2-0 trebles, 5-2 teams, 27-20 total (57%)

Numerical contribution each player has made to the overall Mosconi Cup match scores:
  • • Archer ..... 31.9 - 26.0 (winning percentage 55%)
    • Strickland ..... 26.8 - 18.7 (59%)
    • Deuel ..... 15.1 - 12.4 (55%)

But Strickland's winning percentage isn't the best. Jeanette Lee and Vivian Villarreal have both participated in 5 Mosconi Cup matches (1994) without a loss = 100%. :)

[And some other players who have participated in just a small number of Cups might have good percentages.]
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Doesn't Hatch also have a good win loss % ?
 
spartan said:
Doesn't Hatch also have a good win loss % ?
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Number of winning and losing matches in which he has been involved:
  • • Dennis Hatch (4 years -- 2009, 2010, 2012, 2013) ..... 4-3 singles, 5-7 doubles, 2-2 teams, 11-12 total (winning percentage 48%)

Numerical contribution he has made to the overall Mosconi Cup match scores:
  • • Hatch ..... 6.9 - 6.9 (50%)

[Edit -- He was 11-7 for his first 3 appearances, then went 0-5 in 2013.]
 
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How many players on team USA are known to gamble playing pool vs how many players on team Europe are known NOT to gamble playing pool?
 
realkingcobra said:
How many players on team USA are known to gamble playing pool vs how many players on team Europe are known NOT to gamble playing pool?
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I don't know about Ouschan and Gray, but I think the other 8 have all been known to participate in 2-man tournaments. :)
 
AtLarge said:
Number of winning and losing matches in which he has been involved:
  • • Dennis Hatch (4 years -- 2009, 2010, 2012, 2013) ..... 4-3 singles, 5-7 doubles, 2-2 teams, 11-12 total (winning percentage 48%)

Numerical contribution he has made to the overall Mosconi Cup match scores:
  • • Hatch ..... 6.9 - 6.9 (50%)

[Edit -- He was 11-7 for his first 3 appearances, then went 0-5 in 2013.]
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Thanks AtLarge :)



realkingcobra said:
How many players on team USA are known to gamble playing pool vs how many players on team Europe are known NOT to gamble playing pool?
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What's your point? If you have a point, please hiss it out :D
 
AtLarge said:
I don't know about Ouschan and Gray, but I think the other 8 have all been known to participate in 2-man tournaments. :)
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I don't mean tournament style match ups, I'm referring to like Shane and Alex gambling, outside of tournament's.
 
realkingcobra said:
I don't mean tournament style match ups, I'm referring to like Shane and Alex gambling, outside of tournament's.
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Of course Jayson, Neils, and Darren gamble. The pool of players who will give them action is pretty small so you don't hear about them gambling as much these days.

Do you think they are afraid to play for money or something?
 
nine_ball6970 said:
Of course Jayson, Neils, and Darren gamble. The pool of players who will give them action is pretty small so you don't hear about them gambling as much these days.

Do you think they are afraid to play for money or something?
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Has nothing to do with being scared to gamble, but it does have a lot to do with if they do....and the American approach to playing pool. American pool players judge all pool players by their gambling skills like.....Sure WU can win the world championships....."but can he gamble"....and still if that's the ultimate test of who's the best player around. So yes, I do have a reason for asking....so, the answer is?
 
realkingcobra said:
Has nothing to do with being scared to gamble, but it does have a lot to do with if they do....and the American approach to playing pool. American pool players judge all pool players by their gambling skills like.....Sure WU can win the world championships....."but can he gamble"....and still if that's the ultimate test of who's the best player around. So yes, I do have a reason for asking....so, the answer is?
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I just told you they gamble.

Americans are judged on gambling because Shane hasn't won a world title. They need gambling to try to validate the claim that he is the greatest player who has ever lived.
 
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