Most racks running balls without touching the rail with CB

[Get_A_Grip]

can you explain to me how this will help you game?????

How about:

1) Learning to move the cue ball around for position with as little movement as possible.

2) Learning to see patterns of balls and which order to shoot them in.

Good exercise for straight pool and 8-ball.

 

[dmgwalsh]

can you explain to me how this will help you game?????

Jim Rempe said it would improve your pattern play in straight pool.

He said practice nothing but this drill for a couple of weeks and you'll be surprised at the improvement in your game.

 

[Mike_Mason]

Like Put_upor_shutup says...

Nicky Vlahos and I used to trade attempts at breaking a 9-ball rack and then running the table without the cue ball hitting the rail. We couldn't stop until we both did it.

Needless to say, Nicky would complete his before long and then took my seat behind the counter and watch all my attempts until I did it and we could then go for dinner.

I would bet Nicky could do it in less than five tries...I would have bet on myself in less than twenty tries.

 

[tigerallenyim]

How about:

1) Learning to move the cue ball around for position with as little movement as possible.

2) Learning to see patterns of balls and which order to shoot them in.

Good exercise for straight pool and 8-ball.

Agreed. This SHOULD tell u how ur speed is. Reminds me of the circle drill. I had given this drill to a team member to make him realize he's really pounding the balls a little too firmly then what's required. It's a real great drill.

 

[Andrew Manning]

can you explain to me how this will help you game?????

I think the central benefits are pattern recognition, learning to cheat the pocket, MASTERING the stop shot, learning short distance draw and follow with accuracy, forcing the ball along the tangent line with accuracy, etc. These skills come into play in all games.

Good points. It's a drill, and drills, taken individually, are meant to enhance specific skills (not broad skill-sets).

It is, of course, important to remember to keep balance in your game. I might try alternating working on this drill with a drill like Mississippi 9-ball, which really emphasizes bringing the CB off the rail with good control, using side-spin judiciously and precisely, using angles to your advantage, and playing longer position effectively.

Once you've spent some time alternating your drills that work on complementary skills, you should play a few racks against the ghost or try for a big run playing regular 14.1, and enjoy combining the skills you've just been practicing into a complete game. I think this is a crucial step if the drills are really going to help your overall game. Work on the skills separately, and then practice putting them together.

-Andrew

 

[KMRUNOUT]

It is, of course, important to remember to keep balance in your game. I might try alternating working on this drill with a drill like Mississippi 9-ball, which really emphasizes bringing the CB off the rail with good control, using side-spin judiciously and precisely, using angles to your advantage, and playing longer position effectively.

-Andrew

Andrew,

Could you please explain what Mississippi 9-ball is? It sounds interesting.

Kerry

 

[arsenius]

its a very vague thing to ask how many racks, the real question is how close is the closest ball to the rail, if its 12" then alot more racks can be ran out than if the closest ball to a rail is 4". And witch rails?, the end rails are harder not to hit if a ball is close to them than a side rail because the margine of error is tighter. with specific parameters set up-whitch is possible then a more accurate answere can be achieved.

Its not easy to do and 2 racks is good. How close was the nearest ball to what rail?

I believe it was Joe Tucker, on his Guaranteed Improvement DVD, that he said something about how he got really good at this drill. Then he went and bragged about it to his teacher, how he couldn't miss at it or something to that effect. So his teacher goes and moves the balls closer to the rail. "Ok, now try it." That shut Joe up.

 

[Andrew Manning]

Andrew,

Could you please explain what Mississippi 9-ball is? It sounds interesting.

Kerry

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Take ball in hand on the 1 and try to run out in rotation. If you've played much 9-ball, it should be obvious that having a good angle on each shot is crucial here, much more so than in a random layout. You need to bring the CB off the rail (usually one rail unless you get out of position, which will happen) with accuracy and speed control to get a good angle on the next shot.

-Andrew

 

[KMRUNOUT]

Andrew,

Thanks for this. It looks cool. Although I must say it looks substantially easier than running out all the balls without touching a rail. By the way, the other stipulation of my drill is that you also can touch another ball.

This Mississippi 9-ball looks like an excellent warmup for a tournament-a great way to tune in to the rails and speed of a table. I will definitely try this out tonight.

Thanks,

Kerry

 

[Bob Jewett]

Just curious what the most consecutive racks anyone has run when doing the drill of spreading the balls out on the table, taking ball in hand -- and running them without letting the cue ball touch a rail. ...

I just remembered that Leon Yonders was a specialist in various kinds of strange pool, including shooting behind his back (180-ball run claimed) and running racks without a rail. I think he was credited with a 150 run of no-rail, but it was done by spreading the balls out for each new rack. I think Yonders is mentioned in one of Byrne's books.