Moving a Valley Without Disassembling?

Zphix

Zphix

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So, I think my dad is starting to realize just how serious I am about pool (not as a career of course but as a passionate hobby) and we've talked about getting a 7 foot Valley from craigslist. A problem is that we don't want to have to disassemble it to move one because neither of us have ever put a table together - I'm sure I could but I'd rather not take a chance on it.

So, I've been looking around and most CL folks seem to say you can move a Valley with around 3-4 people without disassembling. Depending on the kind, and I've even seen one where the legs fold inward under the table to allow easier moving.

Can you really move a Valley table without disassembling it?
 
Zphix said:
So, I think my dad is starting to realize just how serious I am about pool (not as a career of course but as a passionate hobby) and we've talked about getting a 7 foot Valley from craigslist. A problem is that we don't want to have to disassemble it to move one because neither of us have ever put a table together - I'm sure I could but I'd rather not take a chance on it.

So, I've been looking around and most CL folks seem to say you can move a Valley with around 3-4 people without disassembling. Depending on the kind, and I've even seen one where the legs fold inward under the table to allow easier moving.

Can you really move a Valley table without disassembling it?
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2 sturdy guys can carry the box in. I STRONGLY recommend taking the slate out and moving the box and the slate separately.

This lets you get the table in position, then drop the slate in and shim it if necessary.

Removing the slate is very easy, if you can't figure it out on the spot, call me.

You will need a socket set, and screwdrivers
 
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ideologist is right. You're going to want to know how to take the slate off to install new cloth anyway; might as well learn how to remove the slate during the move.
 
First you need a screwdriver....take rim off the outside...you'll see three screws for each
cushion....unscrew each cushion....the slate will lift out clean.
Turn the table on its side and take the legs off...should be four bolts.

This will be much easier to move and reassembly is easy.

Three people is enough....two strong guys can do it.
 
They move them all the time for tournaments or events without disassemble. You might rent a cart from a table dealer or just turn the table on it's side on 2 furniture dollies. About 4 or 6 screws to remove the legs. Or use a table lift which is just hydraulic jack on 4 wheels with a flat plate. The lift goes under the center of the table and you pump it up to lift the table and then roll it.
 
When I got my valley, I thought it was going to be difficult to disassemble and reassemble and I couldn't have been more wrong. Easier than putting together some of the toys my kids get for Christmas. And the slate and the box are really heavy anyway, I couldn't image carrying them a very long distance together.
 
Need a little more Info ,, where are you moving it to ,, do you have flat ground access ,, it's easy to move from flat ground , up stairs down stairs , becomes more difficult , but not impossible , I moved a 800lb fire place insert off the back of my truck into the house with with 2x4s a piece of plywood and 6 broom handles


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one stroke said:
Need a little more Info ,, where are you moving it to ,, do you have flat ground access ,, it's easy to move from flat ground , up stairs down stairs , becomes more difficult , but not impossible , I moved a 800lb fire place insert off the back of my truck into the house with with 2x4s a piece of plywood and 6 broom handles


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Sweet.

Some ancient egyptologist theorists are pretty sure this is how the pyramids were built...except uphill.;)

...galvanized pipe sections work well too..
 
i have moved

many valleys with two or three guys, and without removing slate., but it really depends on where you are moving it. one i bought was from a dealer, he brings it in a trailer, backs up to the door, we lay down pieces of cardboard from old boxes, remove the legs, turn table on its side, and slide it across the cardboard, get her in place, put back on legs, slowly tip it upright.
moved one up stairs, remove legs, 4 guys, 2 push 2 pull, slide it up the stairs on its side.
only time i would take one apart was if i was going to recover it, as it does make it easier to move.
 
3RAILKICK said:
Sweet.

Some ancient egyptologist theorists are pretty sure this is how the pyramids were built...except uphill.;)

...galvanized pipe sections work well too..
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Yes but I got the broom sticks at the dollar store :grin:

But when there is a will there is a way I moved my 8 ft up 2 flights of stairs few yrs back but I broke it down pushed 3 pieces of slate up 2x6 rails with cut off pieces of handles ,,
I should have found a better way to lift them back on the table , was not to good on my then 52 yr old back :eek:
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The move would be all flat ground. For everyone saying, turn the table on it's side, are you saying to do that while keeping the slates in the table?

Just looking at all the options.
 
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The move would be all flat ground. For everyone saying, turn the table on it's side, are you saying to do that while keeping the slates in the table?

Just looking at all the options.
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Not hard on flat no need to turn it in side unless you have too , you got a trailer pick up truck or what ,, it's not rocket science , two Dolly's and 2x12s extended to catch the legs will easily carry the load and wheel it

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Pick the whole table up, put it on a trailer and move it in. Four average guys can do it unless you know two behemoths
 
There's only one piece of slate. Remove the levelers on bottom of legs of side with out the door where you can see the balls. Tip table up on this side onto a furniture cart remove legs if needed and roll it where you want.
 
I moved my valley without taking taking the slate out. We did however take the legs off. We had 5 people but one person was really big and strong. It was extremely hard and I'll never do that again. If I ever do it again I am taking the slate out. You can't screw it up. It's easy and you will thank me later.
 
Zphix said:
So, I think my dad is starting to realize just how serious I am about pool (not as a career of course but as a passionate hobby) and we've talked about getting a 7 foot Valley from craigslist. A problem is that we don't want to have to disassemble it to move one because neither of us have ever put a table together - I'm sure I could but I'd rather not take a chance on it.

So, I've been looking around and most CL folks seem to say you can move a Valley with around 3-4 people without disassembling. Depending on the kind, and I've even seen one where the legs fold inward under the table to allow easier moving.

Can you really move a Valley table without disassembling it?
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Well.... IF you drop the box, because it's too heavy, you might have a pile of junk. If you break the slate, you'll be spending more money & probably a lot more than what you paid for the table, plus shipping & irritation.

Take the lid off, as has been suggested, get help moving the box & learn a little in your quest for having your own Pool Table.

Good Luck...
 
Zphix said:
So, I think my dad is starting to realize just how serious I am about pool (not as a career of course but as a passionate hobby) and we've talked about getting a 7 foot Valley from craigslist. A problem is that we don't want to have to disassemble it to move one because neither of us have ever put a table together - I'm sure I could but I'd rather not take a chance on it.

So, I've been looking around and most CL folks seem to say you can move a Valley with around 3-4 people without disassembling. Depending on the kind, and I've even seen one where the legs fold inward under the table to allow easier moving.

Can you really move a Valley table without disassembling it?
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I have moved many Vally tables and have never removed the slate although it is not hard. I just lift the table up on its side and remove the legs. Two guys can lift it up on a 4 wheel flat dolly, one on each end is better. Just roll it where you want it. If loading on a truck rent one with a tail gate lift. Take it off the dollies and strap it to a truck wall. When you are at the location just reverse the process. Good luck!
 
They come with the legs tucked inside the bottom hatch but weigh between 660 to 1000lbs when bought brand new, thus all you really need to do is remove them again to move it through door ways and that. You will be hard pressed finding people that can maneuver it that easily because of its weight. It is so heavy and small for it's weight that it is hard to get people in good positions to help so the more the merrier is not always true.

You could take the slate off and move it that way, but you have other potential problems to deal with then (dropping it and snapping it in 2 ore more pieces). Hitting the cloth side on something tearing it (if it is not being replaced), etc. 2 people can generally carry that, but you may want 4 as it is large and about half the weight of the entire table.

If I ever move mine, I will remove the slate first.

One last edit: Vally tables are so easy to work with you don't really need to be concerned with taking it apart and pitting it back together. There are only 3 things you may need to remove to move it - 1.) Legs 2.) Rails so you can remove 3.) Slate. The rails have either 3 or 5 bolts depending on how new it is and are under the side rail pieces that have 3 or 6 screws in them. When reassembling I would recommend you use a torque wrench so you can put the rails back as 65lbs (If I recall correctly) and if you see the rail rising by the screw it is going to deep so add some washers so you can get it the right tightness without driving the bolt in too far. Another note: you may want to level it before you put the rails back on to make sure you don't need to enter shims under the slate.
 
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Zphix said:
So, I think my dad is starting to realize just how serious I am about pool (not as a career of course but as a passionate hobby) and we've talked about getting a 7 foot Valley from craigslist. A problem is that we don't want to have to disassemble it to move one because neither of us have ever put a table together - I'm sure I could but I'd rather not take a chance on it.

So, I've been looking around and most CL folks seem to say you can move a Valley with around 3-4 people without disassembling. Depending on the kind, and I've even seen one where the legs fold inward under the table to allow easier moving.

Can you really move a Valley table without disassembling it?
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PM SENT......

If the legs fold Run away!!!!!!

The only thing you take off to move it is the legs!!!!

Where are you located and you might find a mechanic that can either move it for you or give you a good deal on one installed

Also if you want solid answers from guys that do this all the time then

click here >>>>>>>http://forums.azbilliards.com/forumdisplay.php?f=54<<<<<<<<<

my .02

PHJ
 
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