What am I doing wrong besides not being able to keep my head still. Why does this happen?
Video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TheCX3XHSM
Video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TheCX3XHSM
Moving head! But why? Video. Help.
- Thread starter krychekrowe
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I don't understand what you're trying to accomplish with that shot. Why not try to pocket a ball?
Do you always shoot with your bridge arm flat on the table like that?
I don't see anything wrong from that angle, and I don't see much head movement either.
I don't think you followed the same rhythm for the second shot as you did for the first and last.
I don't think you followed the same rhythm for the second shot as you did for the first and last.
You may know this already so sorry if this doesn’t help; you are right handed and that probably means you’re right eyed also. You are switching from straddling the cue directly between your eyes to directly under your dominant eye on your delivery stroke. So you warm-up between and deliver under your right eye. I am not sure how this came to be I can only speculate; could be a nature vs. nurture question.
So somewhere along the line you have been the victim of some poor instruction; someone said “put the cue right between your eyes; that means right under the center of your nose!” and it is in your nature to have the sight picture be correct for you with your cue under your dominant eye. Or you observed (consciously or unconsciously) “good” players and where their eyes are positioned over the cue and tried to “copy that”. And now that you are gaining experience “nature” is taking over. But I say THIS IS A GUESS.
If you look at the pros from the “straight on” position you will see a variety of head positions over the cue (I do suggest looking at them especially Earl Strickland for an extreme example).
The 1st thing I would try is to adjust how I step into the shot I would try to on my way down keep my cue directly over my right eye and keep it there all the way through my pre-shot routine and through my delivery and see if my head moved less. Hope this helps.
So somewhere along the line you have been the victim of some poor instruction; someone said “put the cue right between your eyes; that means right under the center of your nose!” and it is in your nature to have the sight picture be correct for you with your cue under your dominant eye. Or you observed (consciously or unconsciously) “good” players and where their eyes are positioned over the cue and tried to “copy that”. And now that you are gaining experience “nature” is taking over. But I say THIS IS A GUESS.
If you look at the pros from the “straight on” position you will see a variety of head positions over the cue (I do suggest looking at them especially Earl Strickland for an extreme example).
The 1st thing I would try is to adjust how I step into the shot I would try to on my way down keep my cue directly over my right eye and keep it there all the way through my pre-shot routine and through my delivery and see if my head moved less. Hope this helps.
krychekrowe
Maybe you need to post another video, that more clearly shows your head and eye postions.
I don't see much head movement at all in your vid, but I know that I have needed reading glasses for some time (and been too vain to buy them).
I even used my mouse pointer as a reference on your vid, so I can catch some movement.
Maybe you need to post another video, that more clearly shows your head and eye postions.
I don't see much head movement at all in your vid, but I know that I have needed reading glasses for some time (and been too vain to buy them).
I even used my mouse pointer as a reference on your vid, so I can catch some movement.
I will post a better video. Thanks for all the input so far. It's like I tend to move my head in the backstroke before delivering the final stroke, but I'm not sure.
That’s what I said; but look at where it moves, it shifts over your right eye every time. I would try what I said and see what happens (video that also). I would also put the camera on the diamond directly in front of you or as close as you can get. I can see it but it’s hard to see exactly how far your head shifts to the right.
Well I don’t need to go to the table, I have corrected this a dozen times. One is off balance and can’t breathe properly (but cannot feel that). I see all kinds of things people do to try to “stabilize” themselves. I would have gotten to it, am just focusing on his original question
Fran
Maybe this works for him. I would rather see more than 3 shots at a long distance before I suggested changing it. If it ain't broke .......
One thing I do know is I am going out this afternoon to get reading glasses. I realized this past month and a half that I need them.
Maybe this works for him. I would rather see more than 3 shots at a long distance before I suggested changing it. If it ain't broke .......
One thing I do know is I am going out this afternoon to get reading glasses. I realized this past month and a half that I need them.
This is a new video clip, more close up. I shoot ok pool, I have been taking notice in what my eyes are seeing and this is changeing things to the better, it will probably create some problems along the way but I got time.
Instructors in Sweden are few if there in fact are any to be honest with you guys. I started playing with a pool hall owner who plays like Earl, a great shot maker but can't teach. I read what all of you instructors recommend and try to use it when playing. I should probably go on a weeks vacation to Germany and get some lessons.
Please feel free to discuss elbows and balance. I'm a sponge for your knowledge.
Instructors in Sweden are few if there in fact are any to be honest with you guys. I started playing with a pool hall owner who plays like Earl, a great shot maker but can't teach. I read what all of you instructors recommend and try to use it when playing. I should probably go on a weeks vacation to Germany and get some lessons.
Please feel free to discuss elbows and balance. I'm a sponge for your knowledge.
Why don't you tell us, how YOU feel with a bent arm resting on the pool table?
Do you feel off balance, constricted or uncomfortable?
Do you feel off balance, constricted or uncomfortable?
I agree with Tony. If a player wants/needs to rest his forearm on the table, in order to play, he/she should feel like it's okay. I had a student just last weekend in VA, who has some shoulder health issues with playing with a locked elbow. He had been "told" by another master instructor that he MUST play with a locked elbow...which caused him pain in his shoulder. I told him that was total BS, and he could play however it suited him best. Personally, I like, and believe in, a locked elbow. However, as Tony said (and I've said a million times)...if it ain't broke, don't fix it. There's always more than one way to skin a cat.
Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
kyrchekrowe...Just FYI, you might PM Ingo here (Azb handle: Ratta). He's been giving some lessons to other Europeans via the net. He's a very competent instructor, and has helped many players to improve their games.
Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
Honestly, sometimes it feels like I have too long arms! I'm trying out various positions for my left arm. I haven't got a really great stance either i guess. Not comfortable playing with right leg locked nor playing both knees bent. I'll contact Ingo for sure!
There are things that are “whatever feels right to you” and there are things that are “wrong in your technique” I personally feel that having ones entire forearm resting on the table falls in the latter category, it is just my personal view of this because I have corrected it about a dozen times.
I am of the opinion that this falls into the category of “using the table as a crutch” (even if they CAN’T feel it, people who do this often also lean on the table when they don’t have to; it is my opinion that this is a mistake and have seen the results after this has been corrected many times.
Just because it “feels right” does not necessarily mean that it will yield the best results for them; this is always going to be a tricky subject. I think there is something to “being centered”. This is as I said my personal opinion on it and if it’s ok with Scott & Tony that’s just fine, I just don’t personally feel that it could yield the best results, as I said because I have seen the results when this is corrected.
I am of the opinion that this falls into the category of “using the table as a crutch” (even if they CAN’T feel it, people who do this often also lean on the table when they don’t have to; it is my opinion that this is a mistake and have seen the results after this has been corrected many times.
Just because it “feels right” does not necessarily mean that it will yield the best results for them; this is always going to be a tricky subject. I think there is something to “being centered”. This is as I said my personal opinion on it and if it’s ok with Scott & Tony that’s just fine, I just don’t personally feel that it could yield the best results, as I said because I have seen the results when this is corrected.
Merci Scott- nice compliment.
I see both sides here, and know what both sides mean with *the elbow theme*.
His alignment itself is not too bad in my opinion. What my first idea is, on those short (very short
) videos, his "eye patterns" are not consistant and this can cause this, too. lg from overseas,
Ingo
What is eye pattern and how do you practice this? Thanks in advance/ bob
In a nutshell, it is a routine that focuses your eyes first on the cue ball (for aiming) then on your object ball target a second or two before you pull the trigger on your forward stroke.
Discovering and training your personal eye pattern helps to eliminate stroking through a transition phase where your eyes move from cueball to OB target.
The key is finding the right time for you to make your final eye transition. For some it is at the set postion, others who have a longer pause at their backstroke focus their eyes on the target during that pause.
Discovering and training your personal eye pattern helps to eliminate stroking through a transition phase where your eyes move from cueball to OB target.
The key is finding the right time for you to make your final eye transition. For some it is at the set postion, others who have a longer pause at their backstroke focus their eyes on the target during that pause.