My Apology To Deno Andrews

jay helfert said:
I don't see waiting as the best option right now. I think it is time to act. Waiting plays into KT's hands. I think he counts on people being slow to act.

Jay what kind of positive action do you propose?

I just don't see any response or action from the players that would be beneficial to them or the IPT.

You know the golden rule, "He who has the gold, makes the rules".
JoeyA
 
JoeyA said:
Lewis, I too would be angy as hell at KT if I got stiffed and wouldn't forget it easily.....

But the bottom line is I don't think enough time has passed to judge whether or not the players will get paid. When that time has passed and the players still don't have their money, then we ALL should throw mud at KT but IMHO, not until then.

JoeyA

P.S. You run a very nice tournament. Thanks for the hospitality.

Thanks Joey. We will do it again.
 
jay helfert said:
During the height of the Mackey era, the PBT had anywhere from eight to twelve events per year. The Camel Pro tour consisted of eight tournaments, all with guaranteed purses of $75,000. In addition to this, there was a $300,000 Bonus Money prize fund that went to the top 15 players. Total prize money for Camel Tour, less than $1,000,000 per year.

In the final year of the PBT (and Camel Tour), prize money was actually increased. Unfortunately the last five tournaments went unpaid. Players showed up anyway, because the $300,000 bonus was guaranteed by Camel. Mackey, like Trudeau, promised to make good for all the players prize money. He never did. Instead, he pressed a law suit against Camel, who settled it after a couple years of haggling between attorneys.

The settlement was north of 600K and naturally went to the Comissioner Mackey. He again promised to pay all the players who owned stock in the PBT, after all expenses were paid. They never saw a dime. And Mackey went on his way. He mesmerized and fleeced the pro players for several years, and dropped them like a hot potato when the ruse was up.

And he was small time compared to a high line thief like Trudeau.

I hear he opened a car lot in Florida.
 
MikeJanis said:
No fleece, in the second part of your statement yo said:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fleece3
Even if the IPT goes under it has PAID more money and gotten more TV coverage for pool than ANY other organization in history.

Yes I did say that. However, I meant in the history of pool. NOT the history of their organization.

I meant "more than any organization in HISTORY" within ONE YEAR
 
jay helfert said:
Go home Fleece. You need to work on your stroke. I see some major wobbles.

HUH????

Ok..That was intelligent...

Oh sorry, "intelligent" that word have too many syllables?? :o

let me try again...

"That was smart..."

Opps sorry :o , don't know how to pronounce that "SM"??? Sound it out, it rhymes with "art"......waiting.....waiting.......

Ok. let me try again..

"U make a funny" :D

Feel better now????
 
Fleece, I like your attitude and I hope some day you can make it to one of my events. If you ever do please introduce yourself.

Mj
 
JoeyA said:
Jay what kind of positive action do you propose?

I just don't see any response or action from the players that would be beneficial to them or the IPT.

You know the golden rule, "He who has the gold, makes the rules".
JoeyA


Can you say "Class Action"?
 
Fleece3 said:
HUH????

Ok..That was intelligent...

Oh sorry, "intelligent" that word have too many syllables?? :o

let me try again...

"That was smart..."

Opps sorry :o , don't know how to pronounce that "SM"??? Sound it out, it rhymes with "art"......waiting.....waiting.......

Ok. let me try again..

"U make a funny" :D

Feel better now????

Still got a little hitch in your back swing. Keep practicing.
 
Fleece3 said:
Yes I did say that. However, I meant in the history of pool. NOT the history of their organization.

I meant "more than any organization in HISTORY" within ONE YEAR

You are definitely getting the high speed wobbles.
 
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