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My first custom cue.
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Very Nice!
The Logo Cue is a nice design and the ring work really sets it off very well.
Brand New?
Very Nice!
The Logo Cue is a nice design and the ring work really sets it off very well.
Brand New?
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Bruce S. de Lis
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alpine9430 said:
Looks EXPENSIVE.....
alpine9430 said:
yes, brand new.
First custom cue
Let me guess, your first date was with Nicole Kidman......
Damn nice cue.
Ken
Jeffrey Gayle said:This is My cue, and it's My baby. 19.5oz. I have shot with alot of cues in my lifetime, but nothing like this. The feel and balance is just unreal. It's a soft sweet hit. Cognosenti Logo Cue. I'm real happy with my choice.
Let me guess, your first date was with Nicole Kidman......
Damn nice cue.
Ken
Great cue! I am sure you will be totally satisfied with it as it is really a first class cue stick. I worked for Joe for a couple years when he first started making cues. I was in my early 20s and traveling the country playing billiards...so the job suited me well. Here is a link to one of my Cogs with the logo point, which, in this cue was one of the first cues to feature that point:
http://3cushion.com/On Line Collection/Cues/cognoscenti.htm
Again, great choice for your cue.
Deno Andrews
http://3cushion.com/On Line Collection/Cues/cognoscenti.htm
Again, great choice for your cue.
Deno Andrews
steffi said:
Part of the problem in trying to explain or discribe "hit" is that one man's soft is anothers stiff and with the huge vocabulary of terms used you can't really narrow it down. Why people continue to add the cues hit into the equation is beyond me. Terms like "hit's a ton" are a joke IMO because they mean nothing. It all boils down to what your cue experiance is, people who love meucci's may think a cue is stiff when in fact compared to an old balabushka it may be whippy. Things that are so subjective prolly need not enter into a description. JMHO of course.
Jim
JimBo said:
As scary as it is, Jim...I agree with you....again! That's twice in a week!
Trying to describe the hit of a cue to someone is like trying to tell someone (that's never eaten a banana) what a banana tastes like. It's meaningless. I think you can say it's forward weighted or it's rearward weighted, and you may be able to compare the "stiffness" of the hit against the relative stiffness (or whippiness) of another cue, but even that is next to useless because the "hit" varies from one cue to the next by the same maker depending on joint construction, etc.
"Hits a ton" looks good in the text on an Ebay auction I guess....
Cog
Did you get it through Indyq?
Jeffrey Gayle said:
Did you get it through Indyq?
JimBo said:
I could never figure that one out. I have asked this question in threads and never got any response from the people posting it.
The other terms that are useless to me: feedback, collectable and "can draw the length of the table". All these terms seem to be used by sellers. These must be the magic words to get more money for the cue, or they want to impress you with their cue expertise. When someone uses those terms they always remind me of the tire kickers in the car lots.
TheBook said:
Yep. The problem is that when you are selling a cue, someone is ALWAYS going to want you to describe the hit to them. The only thing that I can do for them is to try to compare to another cuemaker's cue, which is also meaningless but seems to pacify them for some reason. The only meaningful information I can give is the weight of the cue (maybe whether it seems forward weighted or rearward weighted), what kind of tip and hardness, and that there are no rattles and/or buzzes. Beyond that, it's all subjective IMHO.
In describing a hit it helps to have a reference. In describing how my cues hit I say they hit about halfway between a Meucci and a South West. More cueball action than a South West, but less than a Meucci. Solider and stiffer hit than a Meucci but less than a South West. Is that fairly accurate Gerald?
You need a cue they are familiar with and from there explain the difference. I can adjust the hit a little more toward one way or the other to fit the customers needs. If they want me to adjust it too far I might suggest they buy the South West or Meucci. Us cuemakers can be hardheaded. Once someone on here wanted all the cuemakers to give him a quote on building a cue that hit like a Gilbert and looked like a Gilbert. I got on a suggested he call Andy and buy a Gilbert. Other cuemakers came on and said "Amen" and "You beat me to the punch" and such.
Chris
www.cuesmith.com
www.internationalcuemakers.com
You need a cue they are familiar with and from there explain the difference. I can adjust the hit a little more toward one way or the other to fit the customers needs. If they want me to adjust it too far I might suggest they buy the South West or Meucci. Us cuemakers can be hardheaded. Once someone on here wanted all the cuemakers to give him a quote on building a cue that hit like a Gilbert and looked like a Gilbert. I got on a suggested he call Andy and buy a Gilbert. Other cuemakers came on and said "Amen" and "You beat me to the punch" and such.
Chris
www.cuesmith.com
www.internationalcuemakers.com
cueman said:
Yep, that's pretty accurate on average. And, that's OK as long as the person you are talking to has played with mulptiple Meuccis and multiple SW cues and has some idea what you're trying to tell them. I've played with Meucci cues that actually had a relatively stiff hit (older original Meuccis especially) and I've played with SW cues that just hit different than other SW cues. And...when you add in people using non-standard shafts, it even increases the confusion factor more. To me, a Hightower cue with a Predator 314 on it plays just like a Predator cue.....you might as well buy a Predator. 95% of the hit is in the shaft and the joint construction...the butt of the cue is just along for the ride.
But, you know, in the final analysis if someone asks me how your cues hit, I just have to tell them they hit like a Hightower cue. Nothing else that I've played really hits the same. My Hightower cue is just a comfortable cue to play with..I know what to expect from one shot to the next.
For the life of me I cannot understand why people want a cue from one cuemaker that looks and hits like a cue from another cuemaker. Why not just buy what you want to emulate to start with? Calling you and asking you to build a Gilbert cue makes about as much sense as a calling Ford and asking them to build you a Corvette. If they want a Gilbert, they should call Andy Gilbert. If they want a Hightower, they should call Chris Hightower. If they want a Corvette, call Chevrolet.
Sometimes the things that people do and say just defy analysis.
ScottR said:Gerald . . . . any advice what I should do if I want a Tibbits?!?!?
Yeah...hmmm....that may be a little tougher nut to crack.
But...Danny DID indicate to me that he MIGHT start taking orders again on a very limited basis in the foreseable future.
If you just want to see how one hits, I'll let you know as soon as I get the one back that's being refinished and you can come out and we'll bat some balls around....
alpine9430 said:
Yes, Roy has got alot of cog's. I'm ordering another. I'm addicted, my collection will grow fast.
Ken_4fun said:
How did you know? lol
Addiction
I have often looked at the Cog's on his site and wished to have more play money.
My addiction has been limited to the classic lines and my taste runs a bit pricey as well.
I am currently limiting myself to Schick or B. Szamboti until I can get two of each.
It is a great cue you have and I hope that you have a great time playing with it.
Have a great day...
Jeffrey Gayle said:
I have often looked at the Cog's on his site and wished to have more play money.
My addiction has been limited to the classic lines and my taste runs a bit pricey as well.
I am currently limiting myself to Schick or B. Szamboti until I can get two of each.
It is a great cue you have and I hope that you have a great time playing with it.
Have a great day...