My first good Screwing

Finally got a return E-mail

Figured that you folks out there in A-Z would appreciate the type of e-mail he sends. Note still no Address. This is the first time I've heard from him in weeks.

I replied in kind, Matthew. You leave me feedback stating that you never received the cue???!!! That is bullshit and you know it. Besides, I have responded every time you asked for an address to return the cue. READ the auction....sale is final and no returns. I have given you the best advice possible and if you don't want to take it to Skip, the you, my friend, are the FRAUD, not I. You are asking for things and claiming stuff about the cue that you obviously know won't hold up with the cuemaker. You get a life. I am willing to request Ebay remove the feedback if you do the same with the one you keft me. Besides, you are likely to answer to the police in the next few weeks as I have filed a complaint against you for attempted fraud and defaming my name. It is up to you how you want things to proceed.


Since he states no returns and won't give me the address. I'm going to keep the cue since he dosen't seem to want it and Paypal says I can. As far as the police and all the other balony bring it on baby. I have saved every piece of e-mail and correspondance related to this transaction and the time line will show that I am totally in the right. In order to defame you must tell an untruth. I've only spoken the truth.
 
Send Moneys to the " Purdmans Childrens Fund ", who knows, could go to help your sister!
I was gonna post this but decided not to.
Sorry, Purdman
 
If I were in your shoes, I would look for a return address on the packaging, or find the location from the postmark, and call the police in that area to inform them of your willingness to cooperate in full and that you have made it clear from the get go that you wanted to return the cue. Basically, just tell them you don't want any trouble and you don't want to waste their time and ask them how you should handle the situation.
 
lenoxmjs said:
Figured that you folks out there in A-Z would appreciate the type of e-mail he sends. Note still no Address. This is the first time I've heard from him in weeks.

I replied in kind, Matthew. You leave me feedback stating that you never received the cue???!!! That is bullshit and you know it. Besides, I have responded every time you asked for an address to return the cue. READ the auction....sale is final and no returns. I have given you the best advice possible and if you don't want to take it to Skip, the you, my friend, are the FRAUD, not I. You are asking for things and claiming stuff about the cue that you obviously know won't hold up with the cuemaker. You get a life. I am willing to request Ebay remove the feedback if you do the same with the one you keft me. Besides, you are likely to answer to the police in the next few weeks as I have filed a complaint against you for attempted fraud and defaming my name. It is up to you how you want things to proceed.


Since he states no returns and won't give me the address. I'm going to keep the cue since he dosen't seem to want it and Paypal says I can. As far as the police and all the other balony bring it on baby. I have saved every piece of e-mail and correspondance related to this transaction and the time line will show that I am totally in the right. In order to defame you must tell an untruth. I've only spoken the truth.
Click to expand...


Does he realize that the funds have been reversed? His response makes me think he doesn't.
 
In my last conversation with Paypal the way the lady explained it to me was. That at the end of the Auction I paid. The funds were transfered from my account to his. He immediately withdrew the funds and transfered them to an account that Paypal has no access to. I filed a claim for non reciept of merchandise. Paypal investigates and gives the seller a chance to respond to my claim for 10 days. After the 10 days of no response from the seller they attempt to refund my money from any account that he has with them. Since there wasn't any money in any of his accounts Paypal buyer protection kicks in and they (PAYPAL) refunded my money. Works kinda like an insurance policy. In a way if the cue belongs to anybody it belongs to Paypal but she told me to do with it as I pleased. He really dosen't have anything to be upset about, he got paid once already, although I would have to assume that his Paypal privliges have been suspended until he makes restitution.
 
Last edited:
Sometimes you win on ebay

wjpjr said:
On the up side I got this sweetie for 1700.00 . I wouldn't take less than 3k for it.. It shoots better than it looks !!!! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7249847889&rd=1&sspagename=STRK:MEWN:IT&rd=1
Click to expand...

I know the people that you got that cue from on ebay, a very reputable dealer who may now be afraid to list anymore high end cues as this was an experiment. I've educated them that they need to set a reserve on auctions such as that one, then all they are out is the auction fees for the gamble. You did quite well, and I don't blame you for not letting it go.
 
Removing negative feedback

lenoxmjs said:
Today I notice that my feedback is no longer 100%. He left me negitive feedback saying that I falsified a claim. Not true. I waited almost 3 weeks to file and it took Paypal 10 days to decide after that. They basiclly give the seller a 10 day period to prove that the cue was shipped. I recieved my money from them the same day the cue arrived.

In his response to my feed back on him (negitive of course) he states that he has reported my to the police.

At first I wanted to do the right thing and send the man his cue back but I can't do it if he won't give me an address and why should I pay to have it shipped back to this A$$. What would you folks do?
Click to expand...

In a case such as yours the only way you will be able to get the WORDS REMOVED on your negative feedback is to go to your local small claims court and seek a court order that orders ebay to remove the negative feedback completely as if it never existed. This information was given to me directly by ebays legal division in Salt Lake City, UT.

Otherwise, should you and the seller "agree to mutually withdraw" the negative feedback left for each other through Square Trade or some other avenue on ebay, then the little:mad: red dot will go away, however the words will remain for anyone to see. That doesn't accomplish what you are trying to do.

As for me, I've had more SNAD cue transactions as a buyer then good ones on ebay in the last year (which is a painful way to become educated with the whole ebay/paypal system), yet all the cues I've sold have received only the highest compliments in my feedback. It comes down to knowing who the sellers are, check their feedback, and stay current with AZB as these guys here all know each other, and they will help. You can see evidence of this in the amount of pages your thread has built to date.;)

As for returning the cue, you may want to use the police as "an escrow service" by shipping it to them upon obtaining their approval for such action. In this manner, you are completely held harmless by any action the seller may attempt to initiate.
 
The update on this mess is I no longer own the cue. I traded it away to someone who changed the wrap and then traded it again. I haven't heard anymore about it from anyone and highly doubt that I will. I will get over my less than perfect feedback from this one guy. Those of you that I have done deals with here on A-Z and some other heavy hitters in the cue buying community wouldn't hesitate to do deals with me. This one transaction was the only expriance I have ever had that was unsatisfactory. Yes in the end I ended up with the cue and wasn't out any money thanks to paypal but if I could go back in time and never bid on the cue in the first place I would.
 
classiccues said:
Lenox,
Sorry to hear about your cue buying experience. If you take a picture of the shafts and compare them to those on the auction, it will serve as a comparative frame of reference. About the ferrules and shafts, the cue was constructed in NJ and has spent alot of time is AZ. One possibility is that wood acclimated to the AZ dryness and shrunk a little. This happens frequently with alot of cues. The best thing to do here is have them adjusted locally. I don't know what to say about the condition of the finish without seeing it. The rest is speculative. What I will say is that you are not the first owner of the cue, when a cuedealer buys a cue from a cuemaker, he is the first owner. Test hitting is common, but a good dealer or at least one who is careful, will wipe the shafts down between test hits, or simply carry brown chalk. I have had shafts get blueing by keeping them in well used cases, but I can tell a new shaft vs a played shaft regardless of the degree of blueing. The other real possiblity, is that the auction was falsely advertised. In which case, thats a whole other ball of wax.

I do not believe anything that you have mentioned will fall into Skips warranty. He sold the cue to the ebay seller and as far as I know, his warranty is non transferable. But he may make some concessions.

One note about ebay auctions, if the cue appears to be any different than the pics used to advertise the auction, you have a case. In other words the cue pics show a brand new cue, no chalk on the shafts and no chalk on the tips. The auction also does not note any previous play on the cue, therefore enhancing the advertising with the pictures. I believe if you can show this difference, it's to your credit.

Joe
Click to expand...


About the ferrules: I hve had three cue brands in my life where the ferrules stayed perfectly flush no matter what enviroment they were taken to. Tim Scruggs, Joss West and Ted Harris. Cues from these three makers have traveled the world with me, been kept in cars, in the hot back of moving trucks, in severe humidity and a lot of other things one would think are not good for cues.

I don't know what they are doing but whatever it is it works.

John
 
onepocketchump said:
About the ferrules: I hve had three cue brands in my life where the ferrules stayed perfectly flush no matter what enviroment they were taken to. Tim Scruggs, Joss West and Ted Harris. Cues from these three makers have traveled the world with me, been kept in cars, in the hot back of moving trucks, in severe humidity and a lot of other things one would think are not good for cues.

I don't know what they are doing but whatever it is it works.

John
Click to expand...


That's a couple of top-notch guys but it's probably mostly just luck. Where two materials meet that are different, with differing physical properties, expansion and contraction is bound to lead to some uneveness.
 
lenoxmjs said:
The update on this mess is I no longer own the cue. I traded it away to someone who changed the wrap and then traded it again. I haven't heard anymore about it from anyone and highly doubt that I will. I will get over my less than perfect feedback from this one guy. Those of you that I have done deals with here on A-Z and some other heavy hitters in the cue buying community wouldn't hesitate to do deals with me. This one transaction was the only expriance I have ever had that was unsatisfactory. Yes in the end I ended up with the cue and wasn't out any money thanks to paypal but if I could go back in time and never bid on the cue in the first place I would.
Click to expand...


you are a solid and trustworthy individual - glad this is behind you
 
Looking at that guys long string of negative feedback I would've never even went near it...if their feedback is below 99.5% I usually don't touch it...however if the neg. feedback is 12 mon. or older I might reconsider as they probably have gotten the clue that it affects their sales....
________
 
Last edited:
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top