MY Road Story.....

JoeyA said:
Does anyone beat them overall?
JoeyA

I don't think so, although some peiple are just lucky. The electronic machines have adjustable payback. Set them a little loose (loose does not mean the house loses money, just a lower return) near the doors to attract the customers. All electronic macnines are adjustable as regards payback or payout.
The balckjack is 52% house 48% player if ties push. If ties lose, I think it is 54% house 46% player. Over the long run, that is the money payout. In card games, the rake is the money or the jackpot that keeps going up each hand if noone wins it. Everything is calculated. The secret is not a secret, "you are only a winner if you quit while you are winning."
Craps might be different. You play for or againt each other more than for or against the house. Anything with big odds is going to make the house money. I'm no expert, just common sense and having repaired thousands of electronic machines. If you can gamble, break even and cash out often, you can get some freebies on the Casino cards.
The best way to describe the electronic card games is to say that, unlike cards the next card is not inevitable as with a physical deck. The computer writes what is necessary to pay out according to how the dip switches have been set (% payout). It is not impossible to win, just mathematically difficult over the long term. Almost impossible. Stick to pool because skill has better weight over the long term. The drama, the hustle, and the human comedy/tragedy are real and in your face, not lights, bells, and whistles.
 
JoeyA said:
That avatar is the nuts.

The newspaper search has not begun. The fishing lodge is in the process of being resurrected. Paul Laplace and I have built a heavy duty porch all the way around the front of the camp without columns. The house is 10 feet in the air and even you could do the bouncing baby routine on it.

How am I going to scan a large newspaper article? I have no scanner. Need answers. Should be able to find the newspapers in about 30-60minutes. They have to be around here somewhere. Katrina didn't take everything.
JoeyA

Kiinkos does oversized scans and puts them on disk for you for vey reasonable prices.
 
Great story Joey. I was looking for an old message of yours and couldn't find it (the one where you gave me an update of your recovery efforts from Katrina). Anyway, I never did get around to replying and hope to see you in Louisville. Maybe we can secure a table this time and bang them around for a bit.
Hope all is well and warm regards to you for the holidays,
Don
 
JoeyA said:
Does anyone beat them overall?
JoeyA

I don't know but Bobby took his out. I am $40 winner on his, only because I hit it for $45 and had $5 in it. Next time I called him the one machine he had was gone. There are still quite a few 6 cards in Jackson. I just don't get around much any more. The one Bobby had you could bump pretty well. It's the only one I've played here.
 
IronDon55 said:
Great story Joey. I was looking for an old message of yours and couldn't find it (the one where you gave me an update of your recovery efforts from Katrina). Anyway, I never did get around to replying and hope to see you in Louisville. Maybe we can secure a table this time and bang them around for a bit.
Hope all is well and warm regards to you for the holidays,
Don

Hi Don,
It would be great to get together with you and hit some balls if I make it to Louisville. The wife is really an angel in disguise when it comes to my pool. She has a high tolerance level when it comes to pool although she hates it. LOL. Happy Holidays to you and yours. Thanks.

My personal recovery from Katrina is 2/3 complete. The fun stuff recovery has just begun. If you want to see some pictures of the fun recovery you should be able to click on this link. http://www.kodakgallery.com/Slideshow.jsp?mode=fromshare&Uc=9h036p9n.7ckiqohn&Uy=6izuat&Ux=0

Click on PLAY to run through the slide presentation.

Or at least you may be able to copy and paste it and view some pictures of my fishing lodge in various stages of destruction/renovation. The house and the apartment are for the most part done, thank God. The fishing lodge will probably take until next fishing season which begins next April.
JoeyA
 
hemicudas said:
I don't know but Bobby took his out. I am $40 winner on his, only because I hit it for $45 and had $5 in it. Next time I called him the one machine he had was gone. There are still quite a few 6 cards in Jackson. I just don't get around much any more. The one Bobby had you could bump pretty well. It's the only one I've played here.

Bill, when I pass through Jackson, I will have to hook up with you and we'll go and donate a few bucks to Bobby's cause, or make a withdrawal... :-)
JoeyA
 
DaveFagan said:
I don't think so, although some peiple are just lucky. The electronic machines have adjustable payback. Set them a little loose (loose does not mean the house loses money, just a lower return) near the doors to attract the customers. All electronic macnines are adjustable as regards payback or payout.
The balckjack is 52% house 48% player if ties push. If ties lose, I think it is 54% house 46% player. Over the long run, that is the money payout. In card games, the rake is the money or the jackpot that keeps going up each hand if noone wins it. Everything is calculated. The secret is not a secret, "you are only a winner if you quit while you are winning."
Craps might be different. You play for or againt each other more than for or against the house. Anything with big odds is going to make the house money. I'm no expert, just common sense and having repaired thousands of electronic machines. If you can gamble, break even and cash out often, you can get some freebies on the Casino cards.
The best way to describe the electronic card games is to say that, unlike cards the next card is not inevitable as with a physical deck. The computer writes what is necessary to pay out according to how the dip switches have been set (% payout). It is not impossible to win, just mathematically difficult over the long term. Almost impossible. Stick to pool because skill has better weight over the long term. The drama, the hustle, and the human comedy/tragedy are real and in your face, not lights, bells, and whistles.

Dave, I haven't been attentive enough with this thread. I thought there were electronic pinball machines (instead of the electro-mechanical type that was made by Bally in the 60's and 70's.) that also utilized rolling balls like the old pinball bingo machines. I don't play ANY of the electronic card games. My buddy is the head video poker machine "mechanic" here and he says winning is not predictable in any logical manner, nor will skill (:-) help you.

If I break even at gambling at pool, I am thrilled and I agree that the personal things you mentioned about pool is far more enjoyable than the impersonal "fix" one might get from playing electronic card games.
Warm Regards,
JoeyA
 
Joey,
Thanks for directing me to the photos. Amazing. How high did the water surge?
Hope you make it to Louisville.
Best regards, Don
 
IronDon55 said:
Joey,
Thanks for directing me to the photos. Amazing. How high did the water surge?
Hope you make it to Louisville.
Best regards, Don

The fishing lodge was elevated several feet BEFORE the storm and the adjuster said we had about 14 inches of water inside. We gutted the entire building and are rebuilding. The problem with this particular area was that the Mississippi River levee broke and washed out the town of Port Sulphur (literally) destroying every building in the city. My fishing lodge is on the other side of ANOTHER levee toward the Gulf of Mexico. The Mississippi River levee broke and water rushed everywhere across the town of Port Sulphur, the MS River water jumped across the Gulf of Mexico levee and met the storms surge waters from the Gulf of Mexico, increasing the height of the water. The building lost most of its roof and basically was destroyed except for the frame/studs/joists etc. It was put together well with good lumber and lots of nails. :-)

The main obstacle right now is that they will not turn on my electricity since the sheetrock walls are down and the wiring is exposed so we have to provide a temporary electric pole and wiring just like when you build a house from scratch. It's a mess but we're one of the lucky ones.....really.
JoeyA (looking for good carpenters, plumbers, electricians) :-)
 
You ought to bring a scrapbook to Louisville (if you come). I saw a simply amazing presentation earlier this year on the entire epsiode. The presentation was given by a commercial developer from N.O..
Don
 
There used to be a few pinball machines in Rock Hill South Carolina like you are talking about for 5 cents I remember going there from North Carolina with 2 friends and they would get machine set up normally by playing and run a thin stainless steel wire in front of machine with 2 of us hiding the view of owner from either side, all you had to do then was hit odd and even numbers for a while and we could leave with about 100 bucks from each place once every couple months. It was fun and scarry at that time but I had a great getaway car !! A 67 Fairlane GT with Holman Moody 427 and 2 four barrels with 514 rearend gears with spyder gears welded so both rear wheels turned all the time, I'am lucky to be alive. Leonard
 
poolcuemaster said:
There used to be a few pinball machines in Rock Hill South Carolina like you are talking about for 5 cents I remember going there from North Carolina with 2 friends and they would get machine set up normally by playing and run a thin stainless steel wire in front of machine with 2 of us hiding the view of owner from either side, all you had to do then was hit odd and even numbers for a while and we could leave with about 100 bucks from each place once every couple months. It was fun and scarry at that time but I had a great getaway car !! A 67 Fairlane GT with Holman Moody 427 and 2 four barrels with 514 rearend gears with spyder gears welded so both rear wheels turned all the time, I'am lucky to be alive. Leonard

Do you know anyone named Don Horne? I think Don used to live there years ago.
JoeyA
 
I have known a few Don's in upstate SC but playing pool or pinball you just don't hear or remember last names unless they play smoking hot, or rob you. Was he a older bald guy a little bowlegged and a nice guy all around?
 
poolcuemaster said:
I have known a few Don's in upstate SC but playing pool or pinball you just don't hear or remember last names unless they play smoking hot, or rob you. Was he a older bald guy a little bowlegged and a nice guy all around?

Don is an older guy, probably balding pretty good by now, BLUE BLUE eyes and plays jam up gin rummy and some good one pocket. Nice guy, business man that likes to gamble on occasion. A little golf too as I recall.
JoeyA
 
JoeyA said:
This thread has been inspired by Linda Carter, the Queen, aka rackmsuckr.
Her thread is GREAT and the stories have been fun.

For some of us AZers, we have road stories whether we call them road stories or not. I consider a road story any pool trip that is an overnight stay in the quest of cueing whether it be gambling, tournament play or simply sweating other gambling matches. The only prerequisite to this thread is it has to be about YOU. :-)

My story probably won't be as exciting as many of your stories but ....
Once upon a time, a long, long time ago..........

It was actually 1979. I had purchased a very small, new car, a Datsun B 210 complete with a/c and standard shift; a cool $5500.00. Bobby Hedrick, a pool player from Jackson, MS and I decided to make a road trip in my new ride. With the wife's permission (I married an angel), we set out on the road for at least 7 days maybe 9 if things went well. Our goal was to travel light, play hard, win a few dollars to cover expenses and see if we could make it on the road without having to spend much money.

Bobby was an experienced road player and at this time I could run a rack maybe every Fat Tuesday, although I was a determined competitor picking my spots. I had learned to become particularly adept at playing the gambling pinball machines and could beat most machines which had the tilt mechanism set at a reasonable point. So the game plan was for me to play the pinball machines (I was barred from playing them in Jackson, MS) and Bobby would be the pool player. We traveled at light speed across the Mississippi heading for Augusta, Ga where Bobby had some action lined up for him. Along the way we would stop at different pool halls seaching for easy action and loose pinball machines with good tilt mechanisms in them. I had developed a skill where I could hit the pinball machines with extreme force but tilt them seldom. This allowed me to play a little better than most people and besides that God gave me the reflexes of a Mongoose and the eyes of an eagle. So watching that ball go this way and that and knowing when to hit the machine to make the ball fall into the hole was a gift that paid dividends even at $.05 per game. They had just come out with the machines that cost $.10 a game and they were my favorite.
Anyway, I get to playing a $.10 a game pinball machine and run it up to a little over $150 or 1500 games. Sorry that I don't remember the names of the places or even the cities. We were in Bobby's country and I wasn't familiar with traveling in this part of the country. I'm wailing away on the machine looking to win more because the machine doesn't tilt that easy and I am just winning again and again. Finally the owner, who didn't know me from Adam, walks up to me and says 'THE MACHINE IS BROKE". I look to the side and I don't know he is the owner and I tell him, "No, it's not broke, it's working fine." Bad answer.. He bellows at me that at the end of the game he was turning the machine off because 'IT IS BROKE. Nobody beats my machines like this. It must be too loose and can't tighten up", he cried. Well at this point, I was just hoping to get paid and pay us he did. He had a couple of other pinball machines but they tilted a little too easy for my taste so we passed on any further hospitality and went on down the road. Bobby and I ate and lived "high on the hog" for those 9 days, eating steak until we couldn't stand it any longer. Bobby beat everyone he played, although he didn't bet very high. He and I won enough money to pay for all of the motels, food, gas and other expenses for the nine days and we each had a little over $100 more than we left with when we returned to Jackson.

But that isn't the end of the story and if you aren't bored to death yet, bear with me. We are in Augusta, Ga and driving into the town we are getting close to the motel Bobby wants us to stay at. Back then, I carried a freshwater fishing rod and reel with small amount of tackle everywhere I went. I am looking out the window of the car and I see this beautiful dark water underneath these bridges and overpasses and there isn't a boat in the water nor do I see any marinas or backdown ramps. Now I don't have a boat but I have the passion and so a few more blocks and we cruise into the parking lot of the motel and check in. It is about an hour before dark and I ask the check-in lady if she knew anything about the water by the bridges and the overpass holding any fish, particularly Bass. She says "no honey, no body fishes in them there waters". So I ask her if she thinks I could walk down the road and fish by the side of the bridges and she says "sure but you are just wasting your time". I ask her if I go down there and catch some fish, do you want me to bring them to you". She said "Sure, bring all you can catch", cackling all the while, knowing that I had about 45 minutes of daylight left. I promptly grabbed my rod and reel, a couple of plastic worms and a broken-tail minnow and trotted off to my city fishing hole while Bobby unloaded the car and settled in. Bobby didn't care to go with me so I literally ran off down the road, knowing that time was precious. It is about 3 city blocks away and I am out of breath by the time I reach the shoreline where I could make a couple of casts. I had the broken-tail minnow already on so I started casting. On my first cast I land a 2 1/2 lb bass. With no net, string or way to contain the fish, I cut a reed down and threaded it through the bass's gills and laid him in the shallow water's edge. I repeated this three more time before the mosquitos and the nights abyss had swallowed my whole. One of the bass weighed about 4-5 pounds and I was tickled to have four bass in less than an hour. So I drag the four fish back to the motel and it is already dark when I enter the motel and the check-in lady, knowing that I din't catch anything says "Whadya get honey?" When I showed her the stringer of fish on the reeds, she backed away like she was scared but finally took the fish and as I recall she didn't cook them for us but she did take them.

Shortly after that trip, my wife, son and I moved back to New Orleans and I told my new neighbor of my trip to Augusta because he had a brother who lived there. A few months later my neighbors brother sends him a newspaper article about the waterways I fished and how they were recently discovered to have numberous largemouth bass.

Well, I told you it wouldn't be that exciting but we sure had fun. VBG

I look forward to hearing YOUR ROAD STORY.
JoeyA

Au contraire. That was a great story, especially about spotting the fishing hole. I had a buddy (Frank Reeves) in Dayton who could beat those pinball machines too. You know the kind where you must put three balls in a row. They paid off too.

Before Joe Burns bought Forest Park Billiards (where the Dayton tourneys were held), it was owned by and ornery old cuss who everyone called Pappy Winkler. And he had a couple of these machines. Frank used to beat them and Wink would get so mad, he would threaten to kill him. And he kept a .44 Mag under the counter.

Frank would laugh about it, but he was wary of old man Wink too. He'd say to me, "No telling what that old man will do". I think Frank owns a pool room in Dayton to this day. And he plays a nice game himself. He used to rob me for my allowance every week.
 
Thanks for the stories.I miss the dime machines,because of them I never paid more than .50 for lunch .What was your best shot? Mine was 16 on last ball for 3 in the blue.
Mike Baker
 
fade said:
Thanks for the stories.I miss the dime machines,because of them I never paid more than .50 for lunch .What was your best shot? Mine was 16 on last ball for 3 in the blue.
Mike Baker

the 16 was one of the most coveted numbers (because the reward for two in blue or three in blue paid so well but I also think you could have more combinations of use than any other number) to hit but also one of the more difficult ones as well. I would sometimes tempt a hole next to the one I wanted and "ring" the lip of the faux hole in an attempt to get the one I needed.
JoeyA
 
I'm A Big Faux Spender

JoeyA said:
I would sometimes tempt a hole next to the one I wanted and "ring" the lip of the faux hole in an attempt to get the one I needed.
JoeyA


The 'faux hole'.... Stop, you're killing me.
Doug
( for Christmas I bought Barbara a faux fur, a faux diamond and I'm taking her out for a faux steak dinner )
 
Smorgass Bored said:
The 'faux hole'.... Stop, you're killing me.
Doug
( for Christmas I bought Barbara a faux fur, a faux diamond and I'm taking her out for a faux steak dinner )

Would that be the familiar Salisbury Steak Dinner?
JoeyA :-)
 
It's been a while, but if I remember, I worked the left side for the green, and you had to keep it out of the 13. Then I discovered pool,now I have a outlet for my money!
 
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