After reading threads on here about RKC I would not have him work on any of my equipment. I'll let him tell you himself about how good his word is.
my take on cuemakers , case makers and table mechanics.
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not speaking for allen here . i think he is stating what i am stating.
its not about how well you do your job. its not about angies list. its not about your prices. its not about your number of satisfied customers.
its about INTEGRITY. do what you say you are going to do , when you say you are going to do it.
if you can not meet your obligations.....for what ever reason....send the customer his property and his money back.
being in the top echelon of your trade does not entitle you to keep some ones property or funds they paid in advance until YOU DECIDE to send them back to the customer when they request it after you fail to meet the agreed upon time line.
To a guy like myself, just another dipstick, I have now proven one thing of YOU.
You are now the guy here who
KNOWS EVERYTHING based upon angies crap hole, I am not trying to cause a problem with you, I am only seeing things as they are.
DOUBLE DOWN TIME.
Here is my offer to you, right now.
You erase YOUR comments and I will do the same, after all,
Your words are now recorded and you are not looking good, this is a simple offer, if one thing you have stated is WRONG, you are now a LIAR, when you repeat it, you have also brought false witness in a public forum, I leave it or erase it, Thanks again, Dave.
My comments stand. Do some research using the search function or better yet go to RKC. I don't erase comments because I have no need to.
SAME THING MY FRIEND, same question because YOU think you know what I am saying but you don't, I really believe RCK does.
Same offer, are YOU talking about a deal that the two of you had?
Did YOU hire RKC yourself OR are you reading someones experience, someone who has had ONE JOB DONE?
If I am wrong on all of this I REALLY NEED TO KNOW and I really need your help,
After all, I would never send a bad person to fix a customers table, truth is, I believe RKC most likely would not need the business, then again, maybe you schedule his jobs and answer his phone, IDK.
Please help me by telling me YOU hired him, Thanks big time for the help, Dave.
Let me get this straight, are you really telling me that your on here crapping all over a guy who you have never hired? You didn't answer my question.
ONE MORE ATTEMPT on my part, perhaps you can still help me.
Have you by chance rebuilt more pool tables than I? How many have you done?
Maybe I am wrong about you and you know way more than I, after all, I am from the land of them darn BIGFOOTS.
Lets not end up with a BIG FOOT IN OUR MOUTHS, Thanks my Friend.
Dave, I understand you wanting to take up for a fellow mechanic, but you should find another one besides RKC. I've never had him work on my table and never met him. Like I said, after reading what I have I will never use him and I'm sure he wouldn't do work for me if I asked.
I'm not a mechanic to answer your question. I'm not sure what that has to do with another man's word.
kinda bored this morning so i don't mind helping you. ...my friend.
i stated earlier that rkc has never done work for me.....and never will.
and yes my opinion is based on reading some one elses experience.
as a matter of fact i have read of several customers experiences.....both good and bad. some were so bad they got deleted.
you are right ....rkc does not need my work. i believe you would be better at answering his phone and scheduling his jobs since you think his integrity and work ethic is above reproach.
Did HE not HONOR his words to you?
Either way, I do appreciate your ability to hang in there.
Truth is, I was only wanting to confirm that this world still has people who can disagree and still hang in there, thus, giving your voice a special amount of credit that is still awesome, I would look for your thread at this time IF I needed the service.
I really mean it when I say, Thanks again, Dave.
kinda bored this morning so i don't mind helping you. ...my friend.
i stated earlier that rkc has never done work for me.....and never will.
and yes my opinion is based on reading some one elses experience.
as a matter of fact i have read of several customers experiences.....both good and bad. some were so bad they got deleted.
you are right ....rkc does not need my work. i believe you would be better at answering his phone and scheduling his jobs since you think his integrity and work ethic is above reproach.
If you ever owned a business, do you want it to be defined by posters who never met you OR by customers?
I am not doubting a single word spoken here but I see no proof.
VERDICT STILL GOES TO RKC until I am proven wrong.
I AM NOT A TABLE MECHANIC, only done a few, when I finished my House in 1992 the first thing I did was get an 8 footer and set it next to the bar, that was a few tables ago.
For all I know about RKC?
Nothing, I just don't like to see a business defined by people who have never met a person who represents it or owns it, or both.
Thanks again for helping me out,
That's work ethic John Showman has never even heard of.
I mean, just the fact that you told your clients upfront and
were honest with them is something Showman would never do....lol That alone, not to mention the other stuff you did.
proof ? as i stated earlier those threads were deleted. they were not deleted because of false or erroneous statements by his customers. they were deleted because of several profanity laced diatribes by rkc directed at his customers and anyone else who disagreed with rkc.
as a matter of fact i used to own a bussiness so i know what its like trying to please 100% of your customers 100% of the time.
i am well aware that customers don't want to hear about your problems meeting your obligations.
my customes did not care if i had equipment failures. they did not care if it rained 4 days straight . they did not care if i had family issues or health problems. all they cared about was that the job was done right and on time.
did i ever miss a deadline ? a couple of times but i was pro active. when i saw i was going to miss a dead line i called my customer and explained the situation and the steps i was taking toremedy it and they were always agrreable with it. i did not just let it pass and wait to get a nasty phone call complaining about it.
i would work weekends....12-14 hour days. i once worked 7 days a week for 4 months to meet a dead line . whatever it took to fulfill my obligations.
did i have 100% customer satisfaction ? no ....no bodys perfect. the thing is i never once made excuse after excuse or lie after lie to cover up my failure to meet my dead line.
i had a gall bladder operation . they opened me up and took my gall bladder and 5 gall stones out. i had 8 staples across my midsection. the day after the staples were removed i was on the jobsite trying to climb up on my backhoe. the jobsite supervisor came up and the 1st question he asked me is....are you human ? i said yea...why ?
he asked what are you doing here after just having an operation ? i said trying to meet my dead line. he walked away and i assume he called his boss because a few minutes later the owner of the coppmany i was subbing from called me and told me to take my ass home. i told him i was falling behind due to being off for the operation. he said he appreciated my effort but to take my ass home and he would extend the deadline.
after reading this i hope you understand why i have no use for people who seem lackadasial or appear to care less or constantly lie or make excuses when failing to fulfill their obligations.
If I may give a big shout out to your wonderful work ethic, it's a great thing to have.
The last Backhoe I owned was a 1964 John Deere 2010 I believe, that was 20 years ago and it had the old controls but worked great. I had a few excavators after that.
Back to the story we so sidetracked, I learned a lesson in Grade School, the one were everyone sat in one circle and whispered in the ear next to them,,well, you remember the story.
You are now the last person in the circle, hearing what YOU believe the first person said is what you heard.
Now you have put a Man and his Business's reputation, well, perhaps it's really something of YOURS that is on the line IF you have made one simple mistake.
Now for the SCALES of Justice and what is the value of what you have posted,
Your reputation now relies upon their words, if one word of yours that is posted for eternity is a LIE, you now own that lie but the lie is about another person, therefore, it's worse than a lie IF your wrong, it now adds the bearing of false witness.
Only a fine person can properly run a backhoe AND have a fantastic work ethic like you, are you willing to put your reputation on the line for some forums words?
I don't know RKC but would only recommend someone who is awesome.
Around here we have "The Cueball" in town, same owner for over 50 years, a great customer was/is the real guy from the series" Band of Brothers." I can tell by your work ethic, you would enjoy the place and company.
Time to check out and F off for the day, FUN OFF EVERYONE, it's Sunday.
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Dave, no mistakes were made. Get the info you need straight from the horses mouth. Surely an honorable and trustworthy business man wouldn't lie to you when asked about his business ethics and his word.
Read the talk to the talk to a mechanic forum, there's a poster in there requesting help, he has a broken slates on his 5'×10' Brunswick and is looking for someone who can fix it, that don't do shit for work....in Seattle, WA......so be a good person and find him some help, I can't tell him who to call because I know the work of every mechanic in the PNW, and fixing a broken slate is way over their heads.....so there you go, show the kind of man you are!!!
PS, maybe Mr. Allen Brown can help you with this customer in need of some serious help.
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You can help him as long as he doesn't send you any rails or pays you upfront.
Come on guys, what should I do for the OP in Seattle in need of help? If I take on the extra work, it'll just back up the customers that have already been waiting in my services, if I try and help this person later after I get caught up with my work, maybe in 3 years or so, providing he'll wait that long, but instead, hire someone that just f#*$ s the whole thing up, so then he wants to get back on my waiting list again....only thing is, I don't know when I'll ever be back in WA again, let alone how long my waiting list is there when I do get back.
Help me out guys, so that I might be able to have the time to help this person in Seattle with his broken slate. I have tables going to California, Nevada, Iowa. ....so, who do I put off, but understand putting anyone off will create a chain reaction which will put everyone off waiting on me....which in you're opinions makes me a liar, yet if I offer to help this person in Seattle with his problem, and then can't find the time because I'm booked 3 years out....don't that make me a liar as well?....offering to help someone, then not helping them?
Help me out guys, so that I might be able to have the time to help this person in Seattle with his broken slate. I have tables going to California, Nevada, Iowa. ....so, who do I put off, but understand putting anyone off will create a chain reaction which will put everyone off waiting on me....which in you're opinions makes me a liar, yet if I offer to help this person in Seattle with his problem, and then can't find the time because I'm booked 3 years out....don't that make me a liar as well?....offering to help someone, then not helping them?
i remember the game well. it always worked where the last person telling the story was different than the 1st person telling it.
ironic... i have made reference to that exact same game myself on this forum when quoting some one.
i see you joined this forum last year. i guess you are unaware of rkc holding 3,000.00 a customer had paid him and had not done the work . rkc admitted as much.
i guess you are unaware of rkc holding onto a customers rails and not doing the work in a timely manner. the rails were left at diamonds factory and rkc spent months on the west coast. again ...rkc admitted the customer was right.
so you see....my opinion is not based on what this or that customer said or some 3rd party reference. it is based on what the men in question typed theirselves in response to customers greivances.
sadly those threads were deleted ...as a few were about showman so you can not read for yourself what was typed by the men in question.
as for rkc's repution. you are entitled to your opinion based on what info you have aquired as i am based on what info i have.
there are quite a few who think highly of rkc and showman both. then there are people like me who do not think much of either one. i don't think my posts...as well as other posters who think like i do will have much effect on eithers reputation.
other threads which were a whole lot more negative than this one have not affected their work load and i don;t think this one will either. people ....like you are going to think what they want to think. some have to find out for theirselves what others already know. some people think...it won't happen to them because it only happened to 1 out of 5 customers. then when they happen to be that one out of 5 they come on here crying about what a low life lieing thief that person is.
Here's something for you and everyone like you to think about. The hardest jobs in the world, are made easy, by those who never have to do them!
its simple. if you can do the work in the time you tell him , then do it.
if you can not...then don't offer .
that way no one can ever call you a liar. :thumbup: