My tiny carom cue collection

"But Pro Players will use whatever Sponsor , they can get and then use that cue"
"Lastly the top players that play with Longoni and Adams cues are paid to do so"

.- Players on that level can play with ANY CUE and still play excellent.

I'm sure Sayginer will play with Longoni as good as the He played with Adam, Eurasia, etc. and as good as He would play with a $5000.00 Dieckman or a $100 Hanbat.

Allison Fisher, an European and excellent pool player plays (and WIN a lot) with a Cuetec cue, which is considered by many the cheapest crap in the Universe.

I'd like to add that Longoni's Blue Diamond chalk, supposedly the best billiard chalk in the world, is made by Tweeten, here in the USA.
 
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I don't normally descend to these depths but I too pity the fool especially when he turns out to be an idiot also.

If you want a cue to collect, I don't know a thing about Dieckman cues

So why are you flapping your mouth off about my creations when you apparently have never hit with one:frown:

but perhaps you shall stick with that since they seem to be worth in people's mind for U.S market. Personally, Dieckman cues does not worth a dime to me, because I don't collect. I play.

Well I do too sucker.....what is your average.....what is your high run ??? I will be happy to match up with you any day of the week. While the person that started this thread apparently collects my cues he bought them all on the secondary market. I MAKE MY CUES FOR PLAYERS NOT COLLECTORS although some do that. I suspect you would have trouble beating this 63 year old man:mad:

If you want cues that have proven itself among PLAYERS and PRO PLAYERS,

Who all get paid to play with them. Many of your European players [as well as the top American players whom you probably think we have none of] have begged me to make them a cue but when I tell them that they have to pay for them, not get them free they get huffy. I have numerous cues in Europe sold to players not collectors who have then told they sold all their other cues by makers of names you have mentioned, once they learned to play with mine.:cool:

and in European market (where it is normal to have 2000 carom tables and thousands and thousands of 3-c players in a city of 3-4 million)

For a cheaper

DIECKMAN DON'T MAKE CHEAP CUES, INEXPENSIVE MAYBE, BUT NOT CHEAP. YOU LOOKING FOR CHEAP THEN YOU GET WHAT YOU GET, BUT THEN MOST FOOLS DO.:mad:

cue of around $500, I can suggest EURASIA brand (Semih Sayginer played with this up until very recently. Now he is under contract with Longoni,

So what does that say? Now I love Semih, but he is just another top player who will play with who ever pays him the most. You do understand that the top players could play with a broomstick [Ceulemans told me that] which most of them do as they are getting paid so much to do so they do not have to win tournaments??:frown:

which created his signature cue selling from $1400ish. And their 500ish dollar cue will have ton of fancy inlays and stuff on them!
And if a top pro like Semih Sayginer (I don't know if you heard of him

Give us a break, I have probably seen Semih play more in person that you could ever dream about going back to 1999 in Las Vegas where I first met the gentleman, which apparently you are not:p

..but...he knows a little about how to play 3-c and artistique ;) and dozens of best house players play with Eurasia Super Pro series...it means something!

You can also look at Ceulemans brand on the e-bay.
Other two top brands for 3-c, carambolage, one rail (lets call them all as carom) are ADAM and LONGONI.

Adam, Longoni and to some degree Eurasia. These are all brands that have proven itself for the last 40 years of European as well as Asian markets (just like Dieckman proved itself in U.S, where actually not too many people play this:) Not just pros play with it. 10s of thousands of carom, especially 3-c players would want to buy and dream of a top of the line Longoni or Adam :)

Not after they have hit with one of mine.:thumbup:

I can personally guarantee that these brands I mentioned will play MUCH BETTER than that home operation Dieckman cues, especially for the price lol.

Having never played with one of my cues how can you make this statement??? Absolute ethnocentric balderdash on your part. I do not have a "brand" where I make a cue and try to sell it. I create magik wandzz one at a time for magicians and every one has a persons name on it before it is made, not after. Ask all you wonderful cue makers, which I am not, I am a cue builder, how old the wood is that they use for their shafts. My shaft wood in my cues is currently 15-20 years old before it is finished off. Making at most 30 cues a year I have currently almost 2000 pieces of shaft wood hanging in my shop. Go to my web site and see if I have a shopping cart or take VISA like some of the names you have mentioned. Go to my web site if you want to learn how to make cues and see how much FREE information there is on there. Most people it takes 60 hours to read it all. I susspect if might take you several hundred. I have been teaching others how to build [NOT MAKE] cues for 20 years and building them myself since 1973. My students are legion and not just in America. My students have come from all over the world, Hong Kong, Australia, The Netherlands, Germany, Mexico, Russia, Canada, Columbia. I have proven myself, and you sir, are nothing but an ill informed, sanctominious, cretatious [I am hoping that I am not using words that are too big for you to understand] fool. Very good handle you have, so why don't you crawl back in the hole you came from and disappear. I am sure the world will be a better place if you did that. I trust you understand that you have really pi$$ed me off with your uninformed allegations, inuendo, and out right lies.
 
tinh339

Here is a pic of a carom cue which i did for the USBA for their fund raiser.try to keep them on the simple side.pushing a
billiard ball around with comfort and confidence is the main objective.wraps and inlays also available,just add cash.

bill
 

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If a player could learn carom by how close they are to being banned, then you would be playing at Sayginer level.

Mike

Edit: If a player could learn carom by high post counts on a forum and green reps, you could have become the grandmaster by now! LOL
I will stick with the traditional method from old world. I practise 4-6 hrs a day on a BAD day.
 
Thanks for all informations ladies and gentlement. I truly believe if we have something to say, Why don't we just say somethings Good and skip the bad ones.I don't to start a thread and end up with many unnecessary statments.
Thanks.
Peter.
 
tinh339, Peter. It still nice to see your Dieckman Collection. But a few still would love to see what under the Rubber Sleeve Cuezzzz!!!???
 
tinh339

Here is a pic of a carom cue which i did for the USBA for their fund raiser.try to keep them on the simple side.pushing a
billiard ball around with comfort and confidence is the main objective.wraps and inlays also available,just add cash.

bill
And it is beautiful and I thnak you bill....will be posting pictures of it and cue number 2 from triple cross in the next month.....you are my hero
 
I replied back to Mr. Magic Wandzzzzzzz (laughing my a$$ off lol) email but somehow I did not hear back from him! I wonder why LOL. Maybe you were surprised to find out that I am not your average pool to carom convert who happens to come across a carom table in the land of pool tables, shows an interest in the game and you get to brain wash me with your low cuemaking skills? Give me a break, old moron!


I don't normally descend to these depths but I too pity the fool especially when he turns out to be an idiot also.

*** Only idiot is the one who keeps writing in large size caps like no one else. WTF is that about? Be a normal human being and write like anybody else.


Having never played with one of my cues how can you make this statement???

*** I can make that statement bec. you are obviously charging for the labor you put in your cues. And I will prove you otherwise with the pics of cues done by local cuemakers here, who have tons and tons of more expertise than you have! Unfortunately, sorry to burst your bubble but you would not be able to manage to build a cue like I will post in the pics! It is so obvious from how you put in your cue brand on the cues.

Absolute ethnocentric balderdash on your part. I do not have a "brand" where I make a cue and try to sell it.

*** You don't have a brand??? What kind of an old idiot are you? Whose company is "Dieckman cues" It is your last name! You are branding out this brand, period. Do not bullshit me over this!


I create magik wandzz one at a time for magicians and every one has a persons name on it before it is made, not after.

*** You create magic wandz for magicians, huh? So is this your marketing motto for your brand? LOL :) So that is where that stupid zzzzz sound comes from? Is that how you brainwash carom players in U.S? You go make cues for that Eric Yow dude that I came across on youtube. Sorry to burst your dream bubble but nobody will buy your cues here :)


Ask all you wonderful cue makers, which I am not, I am a cue builder, how old the wood is that they use for their shafts. My shaft wood in my cues is currently 15-20 years old before it is finished off. Making at most 30 cues a year I have currently almost 2000 pieces of shaft wood hanging in my shop. Go to my web site and see if I have a shopping cart or take VISA like some of the names you have mentioned.

*** I have been to your website, actually more like a porn site. You better go get some professional website prepared for you. And judging by the punctuation errors, I would be VERY worried that you would mis-spell your customers name wrong on their cues LOL.
And also, you are right I didnt see any VISA logo, but I saw whole bunch of "send me a check for $2,000" What is that about? I ain't sending you nothin' LOL

Go to my web site if you want to learn how to make cues and see how much FREE information there is on there. Most people it takes 60 hours to read it all.

*** I actually went through your website, and what you classify as "carom cue making secrets", I spoke with a local cuemaker and discussed. Sorry, but what you call secret are NO secret! These info such as drying the water in shafts to aging, inlaying techniques and so forth, these are NO SECRET, my friend! So stop acting like you are something. The fact that you have been building cues for 30 years change nothing, when in fact kids at 14 yrs of age start working in the art of cuemaking.

I susspect if might take you several hundred. I have been teaching others how to build [NOT MAKE] cues for 20 years and building them myself since 1973. My students are legion and not just in America.

*** Really?? Y'know, I was going thru your pornsite, and there was a section I forgot its name, something like "great friends who helped me" or something like that. When I clicked there, I really expected to see pics of you along with Blomdahls, Caudrons, Sayginers etc. What I saw was, bunch of people who looked like your neighbors in your home atelier, or were they your Mexican lawnmovers? :D Jesus, you are a big name in U.S carom world? And you are the USBA president. Jesus Christ LOL


My students have come from all over the world, Hong Kong, Australia, The Netherlands, Germany, Mexico, Russia, Canada, Columbia. I have proven myself, and you sir, are nothing but an ill informed, sanctominious, cretatious [I am hoping that I am not using words that are too big for you to understand] fool.

***Yes, you are using too big words for me. You would be much better off bringing down the caps so you write here like any other human. Not everyone is blind like you. People trust you with putting inlays into their cues? You will need Hubble telescope in front of you to see the cue you building, sir lol

Very good handle you have, so why don't you crawl back in the hole you came from and disappear.

*** Are you threatened by my existence? Maybe you are worried that, I am shying away your customers? I am expecting when your dogs (people already got stiffed with Dickman cues and therefore must protect the cuemaker now lol) start barking LOL


I am sure the world will be a better place if you did that. I trust you understand that you have really pi$$ed me off with your uninformed allegations, inuendo, and out right lies.

*** What will you do if you are pissed off? Perhaps make a complain to USBA? LOL. Or perhaps you will give a call to admin of this blog and try to get me blocked? Based on what? If that happens, you Americans should not be very proud of your free speech anymore LOL


 
Jeez. Your stupid large caps has changed my cap size as well.

Now let's see you put some real effort and build cues like in the pic below.
But a voice inside me tells me that, you can't. Because, you don't have such expertise to put such details on a cue :D

And just an FYI, the cue below sells for a fraction of what you charge for your magic wanddzzzzzzzzzz LMAO

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.- Not to mention that your dearly loved ADAM cue company (Yes, ADAM) was founded and directed for many years by AMERICANS

http://www.theadamcueco.com/

It was an American cuemaker (Helmstetter) who taught the Japanese people at Adam how to make excellent CAROM and pool cues to sell it to the European.

And Yes, 3 cushion billiards was invented in USA and the first championship was also played here (in St Louis, 1878, to be precise).

For many years USA was the unbeatable worldwide leader till the decline in popularity of the game in the early 50's.

Have you heard of Hoppe, Cochran, Peterson, etc?

Ah! And the Maple that Longoni, Adam, Alcalde, Eurasia, BCE, Hanbat, and virtually any cuemaker in the world uses on their shafts and cues comes also from North America

Also, Eric Yow and Mike Massey are not professional, dedicated 3 cushion players and they don't play on 3 cushion's championships neither national or international (although they play very good). They are POOL Players, Trickshooters and Showmen.

And last but not least, The Eurasia cue showed by Sayginer is not a Super Pro, it's a Hi Pro. So you don't even know what model is the cue you are selling.

I have nothing against Americans. Absolutely I apologize if it sounded like that. On the contrary, European carom players would looovvve if there were more carom tourneys in U.S. We want our game to be promoted in U.S and become much more popular. It is all about this. I know Helmstetter created a revolution in Japan. Mr. Layani also did very well as he traveled here and worked hand in hand with top of the world pros like Caudron. I would love to hear from Mr. Layani if he could share some of the details as to what a player like Caudron would want in his cues.
 
3c is the best billiard game! I had a cheap Longoni, a cue from a local cuemaker and a Longoni 5* pro. I bought today a very beautiful Schuler for 1100$. And i would love to play in the future with a Diekman AND MANY OTHERS. The bottom end is still to practise with the right way to better.My dream is to become an A-level player.Dreams are for free!!!!
sir your collection is great!
 
Jeez. Your stupid large caps has changed my cap size as well.

Now let's see you put some real effort and build cues like in the pic below.
But a voice inside me tells me that, you can't. Because, you don't have such expertise to put such details on a cue :D

And just an FYI, the cue below sells for a fraction of what you charge for your magic wanddzzzzzzzzzz LMAO

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.- I wouldn't pay 50 cents for these "Rococo Louis XV Extravaganza" ridiculous cues.

If Mr. Dieckman's cues were like these horrible things pictured here, He would be starving.

I have to get paid to be seen with one of these things!

You are not only an ignorant dork

You also have BAD TASTE!!
 
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^^ I wouldnt play with those, either. I was just trying to make the point that, Dickman would not have the wood carving expertise to bring out such cues.
 
^^ I wouldnt play with those, either. I was just trying to make the point that, Dickman would not have the wood carving expertise to bring out such cues.

ipitythefool, If you won't play with those cues, you posted. Then that mean you won't buy them either. So why should any respectable cuemaker waste their time building those cues.

Since you don't know Dieckman, Then you don't Know what expertise he have in wood carving.

Show us a Cue you have built, collect, or play with. Or Simple Shut up and go away!!!!!!!!!! No reason to disrespect A man Cue Collection, once you voice your opinion.


I have nothing against Americans. Absolutely I apologize if it sounded like that.
On the contrary, European carom players would looovvve if there were more carom tourneys in U.S.
We want our game to be promoted in U.S and become much more popular
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And to correct you once again: 3Cushion Billiard is American game.
Other Carom games might be European.
Thank for playing Our game.
 
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ipitythefool, If you won't play with those cues, you posted. Then that mean you won't buy them either. So why should any respectable cuemaker waste their time building those cues.

Since you don't know Dieckman, Then you don't Know what expertise he have in wood carving.

*** I know Dieckman from his work, looking at his cues. I was saying that, for the amount of money he is asking for his cues (send me a 2K check LMAO) I was saying that, you can buy a collectible cue like the ones in the above pic. Those are carom collection cues with lots of labor behind it. I am saying, Dieckman is NOT putting technology in his cues, he is NOT putting hand labor in his cues (correction: he does not have the expertise to do so like the ones in the pic), then what is he asking a $2,000 check for??? Now, if you pool-to-carom converts tell me that you are buying it for his business card (that, he is the USBA pres) I have nothing to say against that. Now, if you want to buy a collection cue, you can buy a cue like the ones in the pic for a fraction of the money he is asking in this side of the world. Now if you want a professional cue with generations and generations of carom cue-making knowledge behind it, you can buy an Adam Blomdahl cue for $1,200, still much less than what he is asking for.


So you ask me what I play with and that I should put its pics instead. I play with the likes of cue like the one in the link below. It is Frederic Caudron v. Tayfun Taşdemir (Taşdemir won this game, btw) It is the cue in hands of Tayfun Taşdemir, it is an Adam Dani Sanchez.

Now, here is a little background story, just to prove that Dickman is WRONG again. He keeps telling that pros play with whoever sponsors them and pays them. And they would play with a broom stick for the money. And that, pros would play with his (dickman) cues if they weren't paid. Now what kind of an idiot are you to think like that, Dieckman? Here is a proof. The player Tayfun Taşdemir (world ranking 8th) is sponsored by Longoni, and the same made a cue in his name (see the link below)
http://www.longonicues.com/cues/24205.htm (it is TT08, made by Longoni for Tayfun) His contract with Longoni came to a halt, and while he was not sponsored by any company, he picked Adam Dani Sanchez cue, to play with! (see the link below)
http://www.bilardosport.com/site/bi...isir-tayfun-tasdemir-frederic-caudron-14.html

Now I know, all these Caudron names, Taşdemirs, Zanettis, etc. may not mean much to our American friends. But these are the top pros in today's 3 cushion. It is the truth, just like we have better players (sorry, your Eric Yow, Mike Massey would not qualify lol. You had Sang Lee who passed away, but guess what, he is claimed by the Korean community:) we have better cue makers. I am sorry if you were stiffed by Dieckman lol


Show us a Cue you have built, collect, or play with. Or Simple Shut up and go away!!!!!!!!!! No reason to disrespect A man Cue Collection, once you voice your opinion.

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And to correct you once again: 3Cushion Billiard is American game. Other Carom games might be European. Thank for playing Our game.

*** I guess you are talking about Bob Hoppe or Willie Hoppe or someone like that from black and white movies lol. It is true that along with Europe, it became popular in U.S as well, but it never caught up there. But it seems, those oldies were playing straight carom (what we call carambole here, no rails/cushion) Well, if you guys play the game so well, name me one, but only one player in Top 10 in today's pro rankings?? OK, I change my mind, how about top 20? Maybe if you get some help from Mexicans or Koreans, perhaps you might have one or two names in top 50? :) LOL

No, thank YOU for playing our game :smile:

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Well you made me do it. I happen to have a Longoni (one of the original designs) and the butt diameter is .5mm smaller than both my Dieckman cues. Don't know how that proves a single thing but if thats your criteria then Longoni loses.

I agree, sir. Longonis are piece of shit compared to Dickmans. Now can I ask what model Longoni cue do you have and would you be interested in selling it?
 
Well I do too sucker.....what is your average.....what is your high run ??? I will be happy to match up with you any day of the week. While the person that started this thread apparently collects my cues he bought them all on the secondary market. I MAKE MY CUES FOR PLAYERS NOT COLLECTORS although some do that. I suspect you would have trouble beating this 63 year old man


The old idiot wanted to know my high run and average as I just notice now, which I answered to him in an email, and for some reason I did not hear back from him :smile:

Again, my average is 1.200; my high run is a humble 12 with main right hand and 6 with left. So do you want to play against my right hand or left hand, Mr. Dieckman? LOL
 
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