Natural Cures - It Really Works !!!!

Funny ....

but in the paper this morning, there was a study done with 1721 participants by Baylor, and 74.2% believed in alternative cures.

Other areas were Astrology, UFO's, Haunted Houses, and the Paranormal.

So, maybe there are more believers in Alternative Cures than you think there are. Your Grandma's remedies or Old Wives tales or mid-wives potions may have more basis than you think.

Just like there are people that believe the Farmer's Almanac is more accurate than our scientific metorologists.

A closed mind does not grow - keeping an open mind is a good thing.
 
Scott, I'm a firm believer in "natural is better" more times than not. We put too many preservatives & junk in our everyday lives. Couple that with more computers/games and now not only is the adult society fat, but kids are fat.

KT's book is titled natural CURES. IMO "natural" is a healthier lifestyle but not the only way to go. There are still meds that serve a good purpose & help save people. There are also some ailments that simply have no cure, natural or otherwise.

My problem with the book is how he's misled the sick that are desperate to cure an ailment that to date has no cure. These people spent hard earned money....money needed for food, doctor bills, & meds, in hopes of finding a cure. He preyed on the weak and filled his pockets.
 
Snapshot9 said:
but in the paper this morning, there was a study done with 1721 participants by Baylor, and 74.2% believed in alternative cures.
At one point in time a similar survey would have indicated 100% of the participants believed the earth was flat.

Snapshot9 said:
Other areas were Astrology, UFO's, Haunted Houses, and the Paranormal.
Any hard evidence there?

Snapshot9 said:
So, maybe there are more believers in Alternative Cures than you think there are.
Truth and reality are not democratically decided or a popularity contest. See first comment.

Snapshot9 said:
Your Grandma's remedies or Old Wives tales or mid-wives potions may have more basis than you think.
Or none whatsoever. I'll take my chances with the evil medical scientists.

Snapshot9 said:
Just like there are people that believe the Farmer's Almanac is more accurate than our scientific metorologists.
Or people can find water by dangling twigs over the ground, or move objects with their minds, or the Chupacabra. Point?

Snapshot9 said:
A closed mind does not grow - keeping an open mind is a good thing.
And a mind completely open to disproven bunk is fertile territory for con-men and televangelists.

How many "natural cures" will you find in an Emergency Room? Alternative medicine is 99% pure codswallop.
 
1000 Mg. of Cinnamon Daily

There are NO Natural Cures for what I wish on KT and Deno......... and, the sooner the better... imo
Doug
 
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cuetique said:
At one point in time a similar survey would have indicated 100% of the participants believed the earth was flat.

Any hard evidence there?

Truth and reality are not democratically decided or a popularity contest. See first comment.

Or none whatsoever. I'll take my chances with the evil medical scientists.

Or people can find water by dangling twigs over the ground, or move objects with their minds, or the Chupacabra. Point?

And a mind completely open to disproven bunk is fertile territory for con-men and televangelists.

How many "natural cures" will you find in an Emergency Room? Alternative medicine is 99% pure codswallop.

I didn't know I was going to get so torn up for reporting what a study reported by Baylor officials. They were finding out what other areas people believed in besides religion. They weren't trying to prove or disprove if the area exists, just whether people believed in them.

You know, all your scientific theories are in reality just educated guesses of what occurred or happened, or what is? I said you should keep an open mind, whatever you decide from that information is up to you and how you do it.

I believe in many things that can not be 'Scientifically explained or justified'..... It's called faith.

It is already be proven that many of the alternative remedies are a rough basis used in many modern medicines. I worked for a pharmeticeutical company for awhile, their some of their so-called scientific studies scared the b-jeebies out of me.

These other areas, if they are true or have basis, probably have a very scientific explanation for them, which we just don't know yet.

Science is just the chase to discover the inner workings of God, IMO.
 
Kevin Won't Care!

JC51534 said:
I thought it would be nice to start up my fireplace tonight and I had no newspapers so I used my Natural Cures book - the one I bought as my half hearted indirect gesture at supporting the IPT.

And low and behold as soon as that sucker started flaming I felt much better.

Now I think I know what everyones been doing with the book !!

:rolleyes: Kevin Won't care what we all do with our Natural Cures Books He has our money already!
 
cuetique said:
How many "natural cures" will you find in an Emergency Room? Alternative medicine is 99% pure codswallop.

This is funny for 2 reasons. #1, most doctors are not schooled in natural medicine at all. They still look at chiropractors funny. Medical schools churn out doctors who treat symptoms with medicine instead of getting to the root cause of the problem.

Many medical doctors have started questioning this practice and in fact do endorse natural, healthier lifestyles and methods of treatment.

#2, the books never purport to replace traditional life-saving, emergent medicine. Has anyone that bashes his books actually read them? He basically gathered up research from several other books and sites (verified or not!) and put them into his book. Many things he reports does have merit, but like anything you read, you do need to filter it.

Ironically, after pooh poohing one of the things he reported, that when you take a shower, you are basically in a gas chamber, I did run across this from a site that endorses a water purifier that the Japanese have used for about 45 years.

During a shower, our bodies absorb roughly 2 glasses of this chlorinated water through our skin. We also inhale the mist and steam of this water while we shower. Nearly all tap water supplies contain large amounts of active oxygen (oxidants) and high positive ORP (Oxidation Reduction Potential) values. Having a high POSITIVE ORP means that tap water can be very oxidizing, or destructive to your body.​

Their main water purifier filters harmful chemicals out of tap water, but through the process of ionization produces alkaline water, as well as Purified and Acidic (down to pH 2.5. Hospitals use to sterilize surgical instruments, disinfect wounds, prevent fungus, etc.) type waters. It removes the free radicals in water and thus your body (because your body is 70% water). The water is called Kangen, which means to restore.

"Recent research indicates that free radicals are the cause of countless illnesses. When free radicals build up in your body they can damage your DNA and cause a variety of common illnesses. Free radicals can increase due to stress, alcohol, tobacco, exposure to electromagnetic and UV radiation, which are commonplace in our daily lives. Our filtered water is abundant in active hydrogen (which searches out and bonds with excess active oxygen to form water), and offers a way to eliminate free radicals from your body.

Approved by The Japan Ministry of Health, Labor and Welfare (Like the FDA) as a top quality medical device. Only this Water Generator Series has the coveted 'Seal of Approval' of The Japan Association of Preventive Medicine for Adult Disease (composed of over six thousand six hundred [6,600+] physicians of high authority).

It also has the unique distinction of being the only Series approved [as of April 2006] by BOTH 1. The Japan Ministry of Health, Labor and Welfare and 2. The Japan Association of Preventive Medicine for Adult Disease, as producing Water that improves ALL gastro-intestinal disorders (A prominent U.S. surgeon stated that if you improve your gastro-intestinal condition, you can cut down your illnesses by about 80%).

Used by hospitals, spas, clinics, dentists, school cafeterias, bars, homes, restaurants, health care facilities, etc. Units presently sold in the USA, Canada, Hong Kong, Taiwan and Japan."

Pretty amazing stuff that can be seen by drinking this alkaline anti-oxidant type of water. pH tests show that bottled water you buy in the store is actually very acidic, and more acid leaches into the water from the plastic bottle.

Bottled Water (Including "Mineral Water")

You might think that bottled water is healthier than tap water. But in a four-year scientific study, The NRDC (Natural Resources Defense Council) tested more than 1,000 bottles of 103 brands, a third of them were found to contain contaminants such as arsenic and carcinogens.


"Your body is acidic.

Here's what to do. Go to any large Health food store and buy some pH testing strips. Put the paper under your tongue and see for yourself just how acidic you really are.

All those unhealthy choices you've been making with regards to eating and drinking have had an impact on your body at the cellular level.

I know your life is busy and you have stress and just don't have the time to eat 5-9 servings of fruit and vegetables a day. I know you also struggle to take care of your physical, mental and spiritual wellness. I also know you have been bombarded with information from Nutritionists, Surgeons, Doctors, Radiologists, Pharmacists, and Holistic Practitioners to name a few. They all have different things to say, but can also all agree on one thing.

When you're dead, you're 100% acidic."

And yes, I am buying one of these machines to make alkaline/ionized water for my family's health.

This is gross, but watch it to see what I mean.

http://www.whatifu.com/video-view.php?vid=colon
 
*sigh* I'm not even going to dissect these two posts, it's just too tiring. There is an objective world we all share, and it is ruled by facts. Conspiracy theories and wishful thinking don't hold up under any kind of analysis. Be glad there are people creating our modern miracles, insisting on data and objective reasoning to do so. I'm sure they'll even help the "non-believers" at some point.
 
rackmsuckr said:
Their main water purifier filters harmful chemicals out of tap water, but through the process of ionization produces alkaline water, as well as Purified and Acidic (down to pH 2.5. Hospitals use to sterilize surgical instruments, disinfect wounds, prevent fungus, etc.) type waters. It removes the free radicals in water and thus your body (because your body is 70% water). The water is called Kangen, which means to restore.

"Recent research indicates that free radicals are the cause of countless illnesses. When free radicals build up in your body they can damage your DNA and cause a variety of common illnesses. Free radicals can increase due to stress, alcohol, tobacco, exposure to electromagnetic and UV radiation, which are commonplace in our daily lives. Our filtered water is abundant in active hydrogen (which searches out and bonds with excess active oxygen to form water), and offers a way to eliminate free radicals from your body.

Approved by The Japan Ministry of Health, Labor and Welfare (Like the FDA) as a top quality medical device. Only this Water Generator Series has the coveted 'Seal of Approval' of The Japan Association of Preventive Medicine for Adult Disease (composed of over six thousand six hundred [6,600+] physicians of high authority).

It also has the unique distinction of being the only Series approved [as of April 2006] by BOTH 1. The Japan Ministry of Health, Labor and Welfare and 2. The Japan Association of Preventive Medicine for Adult Disease, as producing Water that improves ALL gastro-intestinal disorders (A prominent U.S. surgeon stated that if you improve your gastro-intestinal condition, you can cut down your illnesses by about 80%).

Used by hospitals, spas, clinics, dentists, school cafeterias, bars, homes, restaurants, health care facilities, etc. Units presently sold in the USA, Canada, Hong Kong, Taiwan and Japan."

Pretty amazing stuff that can be seen by drinking this alkaline anti-oxidant type of water. pH tests show that bottled water you buy in the store is actually very acidic, and more acid leaches into the water from the plastic bottle.

Bottled Water (Including "Mineral Water")

You might think that bottled water is healthier than tap water. But in a four-year scientific study, The NRDC (Natural Resources Defense Council) tested more than 1,000 bottles of 103 brands, a third of them were found to contain contaminants such as arsenic and carcinogens.


"Your body is acidic.

Here's what to do. Go to any large Health food store and buy some pH testing strips. Put the paper under your tongue and see for yourself just how acidic you really are.

All those unhealthy choices you've been making with regards to eating and drinking have had an impact on your body at the cellular level.

I know your life is busy and you have stress and just don't have the time to eat 5-9 servings of fruit and vegetables a day. I know you also struggle to take care of your physical, mental and spiritual wellness. I also know you have been bombarded with information from Nutritionists, Surgeons, Doctors, Radiologists, Pharmacists, and Holistic Practitioners to name a few. They all have different things to say, but can also all agree on one thing.

When you're dead, you're 100% acidic."

And yes, I am buying one of these machines to make alkaline/ionized water for my family's health.

This is gross, but watch it to see what I mean.

http://www.whatifu.com/video-view.php?vid=colon

Linda,
While I don't think water filters are a bad idea (I have one myself), go here: http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/DSH/coral2.html
to read what a doctor has to say about the acid/akaline theory of disease. Of course, he's just an M.D., so he might not be familiar with "natural medicine".

The bottom line is: Nothing you eat or drink changes the acidity level of anything in your body except your urine. Not that the filtered water won't be "better" for you, but it has nothing to do with it being "alkaline water".
 
Str8PoolMan said:
Linda,
While I don't think water filters are a bad idea (I have one myself), go here: http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/DSH/coral2.html
to read what a doctor has to say about the acid/akaline theory of disease. Of course, he's just an M.D., so he might not be familiar with "natural medicine".

The bottom line is: Nothing you eat or drink changes the acidity level of anything in your body except your urine. Not that the filtered water won't be "better" for you, but it has nothing to do with it being "alkaline water".

Yes, I had read that before. Also, that article does document the fact that calcium is leached from the bones. Many MD's also endorse drinking alkaline water as attested to in the video in my previous post. Here are some more advocates (some are PhDs):

Dr Hiromi Shinya,
Director, Shinya Medical Clinic, New York.

His revolutionary “Shinya Method” has become widely used in colonoscopy procedures worldwide.

"It is widely recognized in the medical profession that a healthy and clean colon is one of the most important precursors to good health and that the great majority of body ailments and diseases originate in an acidic and dirty colon. Water is essential for your health. Drinking “good water;" especially hard water which has much calcium and magnesium keeps your body at an optimal alkaline PH."



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Dr Theodore Baroody,
Author, Alkalize or Die

"I have administered over 5000 gallons of this water for about every health situation imaginable.

I feel that restructured alkaline water can benefit everyone."



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Felicia Drury Climent,
Author of The Acid Alkaline Balance Diet,
Adjunct Professor, City College, New York

"After years of very positive continuous clinical experiments that I am conducting with hundreds of clients using electronically restructured alkaline water, it is my opinion that this technology will change the way in which all health providers and the public will approach their health in the coming years...My suggestion is to drink restructured alkaline water whenever possible."


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Dr Sherry Rogers.

"Alkaline water rids the body of acid waste... After carefully evaluating the results of my advice to hundreds of individuals, I'm convinced that toxicity in the form of acidic waste is the primary cause of degenerative disease."




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Dr. Susan Lark,
University lecturer, Author of The Chemistry Of Success, says:

"Drinking four to six glasses of alkaline water a day will help to neutralize over acidity and over time will help to restore your buffering ability. Alkaline water should be used when conditions of over acidity develop, such as cold, flu or bronchitis. Like vitamins C, E and Beta Carotene, alkaline water acts as an antioxidant because of its excess supply of free electrons. This can help the body against the development of heart disease, strokes, immune dysfunctions, and other common ailments."


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Daniel Reid,,
Author of The Tao of Detox says:

"Drinking alkaline water is a great way to neutralize and flush out all of the toxins and acids that drain from the tissues and bodily fluids, and to quickly rehydrate the body and keep the blood alkaline."



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David Niven Miller,,
Anti-aging expert and author of Grow Youthful.

"Increasing your consumption of good quality tap water or filtered water can transform your health and play a central role in the healing of virtually all degenerative diseases. However, alkaline water has profound long-term effects because it alkalizes your body and provides an effective antioxidant."


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Harald Tietze,
Author of Youthing says that:

"By drinking alkaline water, the aging process can be reversed and the wastes can be reduced in the long-term to a level of a much younger person. The functions of the organs can be revived."




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Dr. Ingfreid Hobert MD

"You do not need expensive medicine with all the negative side effects to regain health.

Alkaline water has profound long term effects because it alkalizes your body and provides an effective antioxidant."



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Dr. Robert O. Young, PhD
Author of The pH Miracle.

"Those willing to look again, and with clear eyes, will be rewarded with the secrets to permanent health. We can heal ourselves by changing the environment inside our bodies. Potentially harmful invaders, then, will have nowhere to grow and will become harmless."


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Dr Hidemitsu Hayashi,
Director of the Water Institute, Tokyo,

"Bad diets such as meat and potatoes, fried foods, soft drink colas, and sugars build up acid salts in the body. Often these deposits, by having to be stored away from the blood flow, can remain in the body for decades. I recommend the consumption of ionized alkaline water, which will slowly and gently wash these salts away."


"The top 4 causes of poor health, chronic disease and aging and how they apply to YOU.

1. Dehydration. The average person, in an average climate needs 2.5 liters of liquid intake per day to remain fully hydrated. We also need to factor in the different weights and type of activities people do, so a good guide for your daily water intake is to drink half your body weight in ounces of water each day. Add to that if you are doing strong physical activity.

Water absorption
Water from drinks 1.2
Water from foods 1.0
Metabolic fluid 0.3
Total 2.5

Water elimination
urine 1.5
sweat 0.5
through the lungs 0.4
through the intestines 0.1
Total 2.5

To remain in balance, you simply must intake 2.5 liters of fluid a day. When your body is dehydrated, the first signs are headaches and fatigue.. To make matters worse, your body will draw the water from other sources such as the colon, which provides some extra water, but leaves you constipated. Does any of this ring true for you?

I also used to think the water in coffee, soda, beer, etc, would count as part of my water intake.

Packaged drinks are made using distilled water. The more distilled water a person drinks, the more acidic the body becomes. The drinks themselves are diuretics and will only make you more dehydrated by flushing water from your system. Drinking more and better quality water is the key. Carbonated and distilled water are both acidic and are the wrong kinds of water.

If you are not having to use the restroom frequently -- to the point -- where it becomes annoying, then you aren't hydrated. Your urine should also be clear to dilute the toxins being flushed from your system.

2. Free Radicals.

We've all heard about free radicals and the damage they can do. Unstable atoms that bounce around inside our bodies, they destroy healthy cells as they search for 2 more electrons. Free radicals have an oxidizing effect on the body and the billion dollar anti-oxidant market exists solely to try and curb some of the damage they do. We know they account for 70% of diseases such as cancer and diabetes and help to accelerate the aging process.

Free radicals come from everything we ingest - foods, drinks, smoking, alcohol and pollution. In fact, 2% of every breath you take ends up as free radicals, which blows out to 20% during heavy exercise. (Pun intended!) At times of rest, our bodies can handle the load to some extent, but in times of stress and fatigue, the body just can't keep up. Getting rid of these oxidizing free radicals is key to being healthy.

3. Acidosis.

You know what the top selling medication is in the US? Antacid. We are an acidic nation and acidosis is simply the name for having an acidic body caused by diet and lifestyle.

Probably the most acidic food is any cooked meat, followed by simple sugars, processed dairy, coffee and alcohol. But they are also the staples of most diets. The alkaline foods such as fruits, vegetables and nuts and high pH water are not the staples of most diets. Over acid makes us sick, tired and overweight, maintaining a healthy pH gives us health and wellness.

We're not over weight, we're over ACID. It's not a fat problem, it's an over acid problem. If our body doesn't eliminate acidic waste, it gets parked on hips, thighs, buttocks and bellies. Being acidic is what makes us fat. What you eat and what you drink affects the alkaline/acid balance of the fluids in the body. We all need to focus more on alkalizing foods and high pH drinking water to counteract some of the acid.

Alkalinity and Weight Loss

Forget calories, protein, carbs and fat. The only thing you need to worry about is whether what you ingest is alkalizing or acidifying to the fluids of the body.

4. Intestinal Disorders.

We all know that most of what we ingest is absorbed via the intestinal tract. The vitamins, minerals, and nutrients we need in order to survive are extracted and absorbed from what we consume.

The intestines also have to handle the toxins, pesticides, heavy metals, chemicals, preservatives, hormones and carcinogens we find in modern day, processed foods.

Not surprisingly, the intestines require water to flush these toxins away. When working properly and hydrated, this process of food waste flows smoothly, but when the body is dehydrated, the intestines become cess pools of fetid matter. This matter sticks to the intestinal walls, resulting in a double whammy for our health. It becomes more difficult for the body to absorb nutrients and for the toxins to be flushed out.

This in turn affects the blood, and when the blood is toxic, so too are the organs it supplies. We know the average person has between 5 and 22 pounds of caked, rancid, decaying, fecal matter stuck inside their intestines. We know about the compromised absorption of nutrients, but this build up also creates free radicals.

We know that almost all diseases originate in the colon, or the toxic cesspool of fetid, fecal matter as the case may be. It is solely for this reason that colonoscopies are recommended yearly after the age of 40. They need to see just how bad your toxic waste dump really is.

Robin Williams has a great insight into what having a colonoscopy is like, but needless to say it is an unpleasant experience. The easiest way to ensure your colon remains healthy is to stay alkaline and hydrated."
 
JC51534 said:
I thought it would be nice to start up my fireplace tonight and I had no newspapers so I used my Natural Cures book - the one I bought as my half hearted indirect gesture at supporting the IPT.

And low and behold as soon as that sucker started flaming I felt much better.

Now I think I know what everyones been doing with the book !!

I want to tell a true story. A friend of mine who I grew up with was diagnosed (at age 47) with a brain tumor, inoperable, that grew very quickly. There was not much they could do except use the typical chemo and radiation. It stopped the growth for awhile and it came back.

When I saw him for the last time, he was telling me about this stuff he found on the internet, how the government and big business doesn't want people to know about, that involved natural plants. It sounded just like this same rhetoric "they" use.

My first thought was that it was pathetic and outrageous that there would be someone who would lie and con a dying man, his wife and children, so they can sell some BS books on the internet.

He died 5 months after that, believing he found a secret cure, that the big bad government and business was keeping the cure a secret.

True story #2 - Now I have a relative who spent a fortune at a clinic in Mexico where they did banned, illegal and ill advised treatments on him for advanced cancer when he needed radiation and chemo. Fortunately, this only took a month before it was obvious it didn't work.

There are other stories, far more dangerous, one almost cost me my wonderful wife. I don't want to get into it, let's just say that even the smartest people can get taken in. Especially the smartest people. Somehow they are able to rationalize what the less gifted cannot.

As far as I'm concerned, these are modern snake oil salesmen feeding on the dying. Nobody with any conscious at all could do this.


Chris
 
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TATE said:
There are other stories, far more dangerous, one almost cost me my wonderful wife. I don't want to get into it, let's just say that even the smartest people can get taken in. Especially the smartest people. Somehow they are able to rationalize what the less gifted cannot.

Indeed, it is not a matter of intelligence, but rather one of values. If a person values "being in on the secret" or "belonging to the 'in the know group'" more than they value critical reasoning and hard proof, they can get sucked into elaborate fairy tales that less astute people can't follow. KT's stock in trade is creating fancy fantasy/conspiracy tales, and getting "buy in" from smart, but predominantly emotionally-driven people. Some, unfortunately, value "buying in" more than they value truth.

TATE said:
As far as I'm concerned, these are modern snake oil salesmen feeding on the dying. Nobody with any conscious at all could do this.


Chris
This is the tragedy of seeing people defend KT. His money is filthy and his lack of conscience is a human disgrace. He provides absolutely nothing of redeeming value, and in fact, leads people to phony beliefs that are dangerous, not the fantastic cure-alls he claims. The guy is NOTHING but a dangerous fraud. If you can't see that, you need to do a serious values inventory on yourself.
 
You Win...

rackmsuckr said:
Yes, I had read that before. Also, that article does document the fact that calcium is leached from the bones. Many MD's also endorse drinking alkaline water as attested to in the video in my previous post.... "

The inmates really are running the Asylum...
 
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