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bubsbug

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I glued an incert into a shaft. I have been having difficult putting to much glue in because most of the time its hard to screw the butt on the first couple of times until I clear it out with the butt. (should probably get a tap for this, Huh) Anyways the incert today actually came back out when I removed the butt. It was pretty tight because of the 2 ton apoxy glue.
I tried to re-tap but I did more damage then good. Threads are now gone. The actual incert is still a press fit with the tailstock, I can't put it in by hand. Would it be safe to just glue it back in. Or do I clean up the hole, drill a little larger, glue in a phonolic core, re-drill and tap for new incert and make a test cue out of it for myself. It was by best taper thus far as I do it mostly by hand and measuring every inch to get where I want. I have a taper that the saw makes but I hate it. Dang the luck! Also its a self centering incert from atlas!
Thanks.
 
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I have seen several of your posts in the last few months, I think you would really benifit from chris hightowers book on cuebuilding. Many of the things you ask about are covered there.
As for your shaft I would recomend you bore the hole oversize and plug it with something of your preference (wood, phenolic, plastic, ect...) and start your insert install over again. Chris.
 
Chris Byrne said:
I have seen several of your posts in the last few months, I think you would really benifit from chris hightowers book on cuebuilding. Many of the things you ask about are covered there.
As for your shaft I would recomend you bore the hole oversize and plug it with something of your preference (wood, phenolic, plastic, ect...) and start your insert install over again. Chris.
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Good advice, but...

Have you heard the one about horses and water and drinking...?

You have a better chance of nailing jello to a wall.

Dale
 
Bubs, bubs, bubs, You know to test this stuff on junk first, and not your good cues. It's been mentioned enough.
The only inserts I have ever had issues with coming loose were self centering inserts, due to the small lenth of finer threads at the bottom. I learned to bore and thread for those after I bored for the shoulder, that way the threads were cleaner, and grab better. There's more to it then that though, like boring the hole for the tap the correct size.
I saw the other post, and can't help when it comes to glueing a pin to the insert though LOL. That one I have never done Myself, but There is a method to everything, and IMO getting glue in the insert ID is not a good way to go. I'm sure You realize that now. Uhh I don't Know, Maybe try putting more glue on the insert It'self, and not as much in the bore of the shaft. The more you load the shaft side up the more It's going load the ID threads of the insert up with glue when you screw It into the the shaft. I Personally would rather not have to chase the threads afterwards to clean them out. That only risks loosening the fit up anyhow. I also never screw the butt to the shaft until the epoxy is well cured.
Greg
 
bubsbug said:
I glued an incert into a shaft. I have been having difficult putting to much glue in because most of the time its hard to screw the butt on the first couple of times until I clear it out with the butt. (should probably get a tap for this, Huh) Anyways the incert today actually came back out when I removed the butt. It was pretty tight because of the 2 ton apoxy glue.
I tried to re-tap but I did more damage then good. Threads are now gone. The actual incert is still a press fit with the tailstock, I can't put it in by hand. Would it be safe to just glue it back in. Or do I clean up the hole, drill a little larger, glue in a phonolic core, re-drill and tap for new incert and make a test cue out of it for myself. It was by best taper thus far as I do it mostly by hand and measuring every inch to get where I want. I have a taper that the saw makes but I hate it. Dang the luck! Also its a self centering incert from atlas!
Thanks.
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Before you glue up the bushing, file 1 or 2 flats on the side of the threads. When the glue drys , theflats will hold the bushing in place & it won't unscrew...JER
 
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