need NICE weightbolts for bumperless hoppe

dave sutton

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anyone have a source. i want the allen key style or something along them lines. something prettier then out standard weightbolts from prather or atlas
 
My local Ace hardware has some nice black ones that use an Allen head. Real cheap too. Look nicer to me than the shiny ones from Atlas. :wink:
 
My local Ace hardware has some nice black ones that use an Allen head. Real cheap too. Look nicer to me than the shiny ones from Atlas. :wink:

They polish up real nice, too...if black isn't your style.
 

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I polish My weight bolts too. I didn't start out doing that, but found that I had to turn the head diameters down anyway to use the bumpers I wanted, so I started polishing them up after machining. I usually only do that part though, and don't really focus on the thread part as much, because I feel they grip the threads in the cue the best when in their raw state, but the threads can be polished too if so desired. You would be surprised how much even a standard bolt will shine up with the right technique.

Greg
 
thanks guys i emailed atlas and prather to see if they offered different styles then dont but then eric from atlas emailed me this

http://www.mcmaster.com/#socket-head-cap-screws/=16uf2z

you have to make them up by clicking specs...

perfrect. now the question is 18-8 stainless steel or 316 stainless steel

82deg angled head SS 2'' long and 3/8-16 looks just like bobs above

18-8 cost per bolt is 7$ per 5
316 cost per bolt is 3.50$

what do you guys think?

thanks eric
 
My local Ace hardware has some nice black ones that use an Allen head. Real cheap too. Look nicer to me than the shiny ones from Atlas. :wink:

So these can be bought as a 3/8 -16 x ?"? Assuming I just add the length of my 2 bolts, the 1/8" or so of the empty bore, and the depth the bumper fills to come up with the length I need? Will the head fit snug inside the bore where my bumper was or will I have to modify it? Does anyone know the weight of these Im looking to bump up my cue a little in weight. More than 25g? My Capone butt weighs 15.20137 oz. with (2) 3/8 16 weight bolts 1 is 1 ½ " long and is 15 g or 0. 52905 oz the second is 1" long and 10g or 0,3527 oz.
 
So these can be bought as a 3/8 -16 x ?"? Assuming I just add the length of my 2 bolts, the 1/8" or so of the empty bore, and the depth the bumper fills to come up with the length I need? Will the head fit snug inside the bore where my bumper was or will I have to modify it? Does anyone know the weight of these Im looking to bump up my cue a little in weight. More than 25g? My Capone butt weighs 15.20137 oz. with (2) 3/8 16 weight bolts 1 is 1 ½ " long and is 15 g or 0. 52905 oz the second is 1" long and 10g or 0,3527 oz.

in my last post the website i posted asks for a desired legnth. you can get anything you want. so if a standard 3'' weightbolt is 1.3oz and a 5'' is 1.9oz

3/10 per inch i think my 2'' bolts will be around 1oz. i can grind off some if needed.

i usually buy the long ones and adjust them as i need too
 
Stainless steel...

Dave,

In the environment that a cue will see either 18-8 or 316, will work just fine. Due to the higher amounts of molybdenum in 18-8 increases the price. Also the grain structure of 18-8 does not lead itself to chip formation in turning operations, thus will not machine as well. 316 is an austenitic stainless steel, which will be much easier to machine than the martensitic 18-8. And unless you plan on playing pool on a sandy beach with salt spray, neither one will oxidize that much. Such is the beauty of the adherent ceramic oxide that forms on stainless. Sorry I can't help it, I'm a metallurgist.

Tony
 
Dave,

In the environment that a cue will see either 18-8 or 316, will work just fine. Due to the higher amounts of molybdenum in 18-8 increases the price. Also the grain structure of 18-8 does not lead itself to chip formation in turning operations, thus will not machine as well. 316 is an austenitic stainless steel, which will be much easier to machine than the martensitic 18-8. And unless you plan on playing pool on a sandy beach with salt spray, neither one will oxidize that much. Such is the beauty of the adherent ceramic oxide that forms on stainless. Sorry I can't help it, I'm a metallurgist.

Tony
so which will shine up better like bobs. also which will be heavier all being equal
 
My local Ace hardware has some nice black ones that use an Allen head. Real cheap too. Look nicer to me than the shiny ones from Atlas. :wink:

What does the hardware store call them? Weightbolts? Im not sure what they are used for besides maknig the cue heavier and looking bad ass lol.
 
What does the hardware store call them? Weightbolts? Im not sure what they are used for besides maknig the cue heavier and looking bad ass lol.

Flathead socket cap screws. But anything over 2 inch probably wont be threaded all the way.At least all the ones I have at work are like that.
 
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Dave,

In the environment that a cue will see either 18-8 or 316, will work just fine. Due to the higher amounts of molybdenum in 18-8 increases the price. Also the grain structure of 18-8 does not lead itself to chip formation in turning operations, thus will not machine as well. 316 is an austenitic stainless steel, which will be much easier to machine than the martensitic 18-8. And unless you plan on playing pool on a sandy beach with salt spray, neither one will oxidize that much. Such is the beauty of the adherent ceramic oxide that forms on stainless. Sorry I can't help it, I'm a metallurgist.

Tony


Excellent post!
 
If you order from the site I posted you have the option threaded all the way or not.

I am looking through the McMaster-Carr catalog I have at home and I cant find it. Do you have a parts number.
They do have socket set screws(no head) that you could put in first for more weight if you want.Then finish with the flat head.
McMaster used to have their warehouse in Dayton and I could just pick stuff up on the way home after work. Now they moved to South Jersey and its to far to drive
 
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