Need some help with this question plz....

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TheGaintKiller

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I was playing a ring game with a couple of buddies. Someone broke and miss cued, the cueball never made contact with another ball in the rack (the balls are still racked up).

Now my question is, does the cue ball stay where its is and the person following gets the opition to shoot or have them shoot from where the cueball is? or Do you get to move the cue ball back in the kitchen and get the opition to take it or let them break???

I think i asked this before but i never really got a straight answer. So if someone could plz tell me i would really appreciate it...
 
had something similar happen to me in a 9-ball tournament. here was the gist of the ruling by the TO. Since the rack was not struck, the action was not underway. My opponent got to re-break. even tho yours occurred in a ring game, I can't see the outcome being much different.
 
My vote would be that the next guy in line would have an option to break or give the break back to the original breaker. This seems fair to me, but then again, i have never seen an official ring game rule book.
 
greenlight said:
My vote would be that the next guy in line would have an option to break or give the break back to the original breaker. This seems fair to me, but then again, i have never seen an official ring game rule book.
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Thats what i was thinking but there was a couple of guys that thought different. I wish there was an official ruling on this cause this has happend more than once...
 
Bring it up before the first break. Decide on a rule and that should do it.
I've been playing for 50 years and i have no idea if there is an official rule for a ring game. But if the rack is not struck the game has not begun so i would think the player that mis cued should break.
 
In order to avoid confusion, it needs to be established if the game begins when the cue tip strikes the cueball or does it begin when the cueball strikes the rack.
 
Big_H515 said:
had something similar happen to me in a 9-ball tournament. here was the gist of the ruling by the TO. Since the rack was not struck, the action was not underway. My opponent got to re-break. even tho yours occurred in a ring game, I can't see the outcome being much different.
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I didn't know there were 'mulligans" in pool.

No harm no foul


3railkick
 
Game doesn't start til the balls have been broken...therefore player gets to break again.
 
Thanks for all your help guys. Also what if the cueball does hit the rack and the balls barely move??? Do you have to rerack or does the rack stay like it is and the next player gets the option of shooting it or letting the breaker take a shot at the messed up rack???
 
TheGaintKiller said:
Thanks for all your help guys. Also what if the cueball does hit the rack and the balls barely move??? Do you have to rerack or does the rack stay like it is and the next player gets the option of shooting it or letting the breaker take a shot at the messed up rack???
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Anyone know???:confused:
 
According to BCA World Standardized rules, the game begins wher the tip strikes the cue ball.

CUE BALL ON OPENING BREAK
The opening break shot is taken with cue ball in hand behind the head string. The object balls are positioned according to specific game rules. On the opening break, the game is considered to have commenced once the cue ball has been struck by the cue tip

To be a legal break, in 9 ball, must strike the 1 ball first, then either pocket a ball or drive 4 object balls to the rails

If break not legal, incoming player has 3 choices. Can accept table as is and play, or rerack and either break himself or require original breaker to break again.

I think WPA rules are the same. No such thing as an automatic "do over"
 
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GADawg said:
According to BCA World Standardized rules, the game begins wher the tip strikes the cue ball.

CUE BALL ON OPENING BREAK
The opening break shot is taken with cue ball in hand behind the head string. The object balls are positioned according to specific game rules. On the opening break, the game is considered to have commenced once the cue ball has been struck by the cue tip

To be a legal break, in 9 ball, must strike the 1 ball first, then either pocket a ball or drive 4 object balls to the rails

If break not legal, incoming player has 3 choices. Can accept table as is and play, or rerack and either break himself or require original breaker to break again.

I think WPA rules are the same. No such thing as an automatic "do over"
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Yes this makes much more sence. Thanks alot GADawg this is going to be very useful....
 
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