Nelsonite and Pentacryl (Wood Juice)

DBK said:
There are two products, Nelsonite and Pentacryl (Wood Juice).
http://www.preservation-solutions.com/product.php?product_id=1003&category_id=1000
They have similar purpose "a wood stabilizer" and similar effects from application.
Question - somebody used Pentacryl (Wood Juice)? Can it carry out the same function as Nelsonite?
Can somebody prompt - are analogues of a wood stabilizers in Europe?
Thanks
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I don't know if this helps or not. I've been using Nelsonite since the mid nineties. A fellow I used to get my shaft wood from in Northern Michigan turned me on to it. I know that it works as far as stabilizing wood. I have very little trouble with shaft wood moving on me. A number of cue-makers on this and other forums, believe that the use of a Stabilizer affects the playability of a shaft. I certainly can't argue with that statement as I have never run tests, myself. I do know that the saw dust that is produced when working is different between stabilized and non-stabilized wood. I would like to run some tests but that is a expensive and time consuming operation. I figure to get a good test you would need to use at least 200 blanks, (100 with stabilizer and 100 without) to get a reliable test result. This is so that the other variables in the shaft make up can be equalized. If the non-stabilized shafts turn out not to play any better then you have wasted quite a bit of money as many of these will end up going south. Of coarse though, if it turns out the other way and the non-stabilized shafts play better, I could then put out a better playing product although the shafts integrity would not be quite as reliable.

Dick
 
we have been using resolute it seems to work well and hardly any smell nelsonite stinks
 
rhncue said:
I don't know if this helps or not. I've been using Nelsonite since the mid nineties. A fellow I used to get my shaft wood from in Northern Michigan turned me on to it. I know that it works as far as stabilizing wood. I have very little trouble with shaft wood moving on me. A number of cue-makers on this and other forums, believe that the use of a Stabilizer affects the playability of a shaft. I certainly can't argue with that statement as I have never run tests, myself. I do know that the saw dust that is produced when working is different between stabilized and non-stabilized wood. I would like to run some tests but that is a expensive and time consuming operation. I figure to get a good test you would need to use at least 200 blanks, (100 with stabilizer and 100 without) to get a reliable test result. This is so that the other variables in the shaft make up can be equalized. If the non-stabilized shafts turn out not to play any better then you have wasted quite a bit of money as many of these will end up going south. Of coarse though, if it turns out the other way and the non-stabilized shafts play better, I could then put out a better playing product although the shafts integrity would not be quite as reliable.

Dick
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Great points. I would like to hear the results of a test like this. Maybe on 20 shafts of each type. Meucci is about the only one around that could reasonablly do it. No small guys would build that many shafts and none have the robot to test them either. I would really to see a robot be set up to use the same butt for all 40 shafts and see if the draw and side spin decreased among the stabilized cues. Then set up a cue ball on bungee cord and hit it with one shaft of each type over and over a few thousand times each. Then put on new tips and see how much of that action each lost. This would tell if one breaks down faster than the other.
 
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