New Aramith Cue Ball??

mnorwood

mnorwood

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At home I have a red circle cue ball that I can draw long distances on my 4 year old worn out simonis.

I was at a friends house the other day who has new faster cloth and a newer cue ball. This cue ball has the black aramith logo on it from the Aramith tournament set. I had a much harder time drawing that cue ball than my own cue ball. Is this cue ball heavier like the measle ball? Is it more of a follow cue ball? Below is a link to the set I am talking about.

http://www.ozonebilliards.com/artoset.html
 
How red is the red circle on your cue ball? Is it faded and more of a pink color?

Sometimes after much use, the cue ball becomes smaller and lighter from friction.

The most important thing is that the cue ball and all the other balls in your set are the same weight. The weight of the cue ball causes it to react differently from one to another...
 
so he has a cue ball "FROM" the tournament set.. and is trying to use it with other balls.. and surprise... things don't go as expected..

play the tournament ball with the rest of the tournament set on the same equipment.. and see if you have the same problem..

don't buy "A" ball... buy a "SET" of balls...size, weight, and wear matter

then again it could just be the weather ;).. most likely a little of both
 
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The red circle will draw better than any other cb, including the measle. Now I like the measle because I can see what transpiring with the cb. As for the cb than comes standard in the set (black label), they put an inferior ball there. So if you are a discriminating buyer, you will spend more money.

"Keep your feet on the ground and keep reaching for the stars." ---Casey Kasem
 
I agree with Southern, the red circle is just a better ball....easier to draw.
 
Wheaties

Marcus, Be sure that when you wake up you eat a large bowl of "Wheaties", goes real good with bananas!!!!! That should improve your draw stroke, and if that doesn't work at least you'll be regular! ---------- Maybe you should play more 3-cushion!, less draw strokes!

'SHOOT STRAIGHT WITH ANGLES"
Dan

THE ANSWER IS --- NEW FASTER CLOTH-- SLICKER-- CUE BALL SPINS-- DOES NOT GRAB THE NEW FASTER CLOTH AS WELL!!!!!!
 
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New Aramith Cue Ball

Bambu said:
I agree with Southern, the red circle is just a better ball....easier to draw.
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Im far from expert on cueballs but for some strange reason i can tell the difference in weights of many cueballs..recently pt109 showed me a worn 'measle' cueball & it actually sits flat where its worn onthe dots! I sure won't be using them any more.. i can draw the red dot further than the black dot & vica versa if I use follows on those 2 ..
 
Bambu said:
I agree with Southern, the red circle is just a better ball....easier to draw.
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Just because it's easier to draw does not make it a better cue ball. If the cue ball is lighter than it should be it will not react correctly after colliding with other balls.



dan bennicas said:
THE ANSWER IS --- NEW FASTER CLOTH-- SLICKER-- CUE BALL SPINS-- DOES NOT GRAB THE NEW FASTER CLOTH AS WELL!!!!!!
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This is ridiculous. Do you even play?


lortee said:
Im far from expert on cueballs but for some strange reason i can tell the difference in weights of many cueballs..recently pt109 showed me a worn 'measle' cueball & it actually sits flat where its worn onthe dots! I sure won't be using them any more..
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You don't have to be an expert, it's fairly easy to judge when a cue ball isn't the right weight.


lortee said:
i can draw the red dot further than the black dot & vica versa if I use follows on those 2 ..
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That just means the black dot weighs more, it's probably not a good idea to just mix and match cue balls from different sets. All the balls should weigh the same.

Also "further" refers to metaphysical distance, "farther" refers to physical distance.
 
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dan bennicas said:
Marcus, Be sure that when you wake up you eat a large bowl of "Wheaties", goes real good with bananas!!!!! That should improve your draw stroke, and if that doesn't work at least you'll be regular! ---------- Maybe you should play more 3-cushion!, less draw strokes!

'SHOOT STRAIGHT WITH ANGLES"
Dan

THE ANSWER IS --- NEW FASTER CLOTH-- SLICKER-- CUE BALL SPINS-- DOES NOT GRAB THE NEW FASTER CLOTH AS WELL!!!!!!
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Hey Dan,
I have been hitting pool balls better than ever. I am going to play some 3c on a heated Gabriels this week.

Hope all is well in S.C.

Cheers,
Marcus
 
Bambu said:
I agree with Southern, the red circle is just a better ball....easier to draw.
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I used to think that too, until I bought a new set of Aramiths and a new Aramith Red Circle. The new RC plays pretty much the same as a new Measles Ball.

The thing is that CBs get worn down pretty quickly, to a surprising degree. I think that's why everyone believes the RC is easier to draw.

So no matter what, get a new CB to go with the new set of balls.

Lou Figueroa
 
lfigueroa said:
... So no matter what, get a new CB to go with the new set of balls.
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Unless, that is, you want to draw like a champ. There's nothing that helps draw so much as 5-ounce cue ball with 6-ounce object balls.

We had the other case in league when the LO proudly brought in his shiny new measles cue ball. The problem was that the owner hadn't changed out the object balls since the room had opened a decade or so before. Of course draw didn't work. When we surrounded the cue ball with object balls, there was nearly a quarter-inch gap in the ring of object balls.
 
would it not make sense that the cue ball would wear out faster than the other balls in a set since the cue ball is used on every shot and the object balls are put in action during a game very seldom relative to the cue ball? if this is true the cue ball in most sets would be lighter than object balls unless your using a relativley new set
 
that set reminds me and looks like the old set that was issued for the IPT tournaments and in the rooms that were supposed to hold qualifiers etc.....i remember them seeming a little harder to move around, OB and CB alike.....same pattern on balls but i cant remember what the logo on the CB was but the ball set looks just the same. Centennials played better imop w/blue circle or red circle

G.G.
 
SouthernDraw said:
... As for the cb than comes standard in the set (black label), they put an inferior ball there. ...
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Are you talking about the cue ball that comes with the Aramith Tournament set -- the one with a black Aramith logo surrounded by a split black circle? If so, I disagree with your assessment. I think that ball is made from the same resin, and with the same Duramith technology, and to the same specifications as all the other ball in that set. So it is the best-matched ball for the Tournament set. And the Tournament set is the top of the line for Aramith pool balls.
 
Surprising to me that no one posting these opinions of these various cue balls has a scale to verify their opinions.

I've got a plain red circle cueball and a "squiggly" red circle cue ball and they are 3 hundredths of an ounce different in weight.
 
red circle is a p.o.s. You can draw it further because it is the lightest cueball. It is lighter than the object balls as well.
 
Bob Jewett said:
Unless, that is, you want to draw like a champ. There's nothing that helps draw so much as 5-ounce cue ball with 6-ounce object balls.

We had the other case in league when the LO proudly brought in his shiny new measles cue ball. The problem was that the owner hadn't changed out the object balls since the room had opened a decade or so before. Of course draw didn't work. When we surrounded the cue ball with object balls, there was nearly a quarter-inch gap in the ring of object balls.
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It's also funny about the object balls and how much they shrink.

The table I play on, at the same pool hall, has a rack with a certain set of markings on it to help get a tight rack. So I know it's always the same rack. When I introduced the new set of Aramiths it was almost shocking to see how much less wiggle room there was at the back of the rack when trying to rack. AND this was in comparison to my own previous personal set (as opposed to a house set with considerably more miles on them) which relatively speaking, had low miles on them after about perhaps five years of play for just a few hours several days a week.

Lou Figueroa
 
thommy said:
Surprising to me that no one posting these opinions of these various cue balls has a scale to verify their opinions.

I've got a plain red circle cueball and a "squiggly" red circle cue ball and they are 3 hundredths of an ounce different in weight.
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My personal belief is that the tolerances coming out of the factory are pretty tight. The issue then becomes how many hours of play the balls have when measured. Brand new, it's hard to tell any difference, IMO.

Lou Figueroa
 
I don't have any of the wts. but I can post this:



The different kinds of ARAMITH cue balls are :

Set using that cue ball Phenolic resin used

Cue ball with red Aramith logo
Super Aramith Pro
Super Aramith Pro
Pro Cup cue ball (with 6 red dots) Super Aramith Pro Cup TV; Super Aramith Pro Cup Value Pack Super Aramith Pro
Cue ball with red Aramith logo Super Aramith Pro Super Aramith Pro
Cue ball with red triangle : does not exist anymore. Replaced by the red Aramith logo
Cue ball with blue circle Brunswick Centennial Super Aramith Pro
Cue ball with blue Aramith logo Aramith Premium Aramith Premium
Cue ball with red circle - Super Aramith
Cue ball with black circle - Super Aramith
Cue ball with red dot - Aramith Premier
Cue ball with blue dot - Aramith Premier
Cue ball – no logo Aramith Premier, Standard Aramith Premier



The different kinds of ARAMITH cue balls are :

Set using that cue ball Phenolic resin used

Cue ball with red Aramith logo
Super Aramith Pro
Super Aramith Pro
Pro Cup cue ball (with 6 red dots) Super Aramith Pro Cup TV; Super Aramith Pro Cup Value Pack Super Aramith Pro
Cue ball with red Aramith logo Super Aramith Pro Super Aramith Pro
Cue ball with red triangle : does not exist anymore. Replaced by the red Aramith logo
Cue ball with blue circle Brunswick Centennial Super Aramith Pro
Cue ball with blue Aramith logo Aramith Premium Aramith Premium
Cue ball with red circle - Super Aramith
Cue ball with black circle - Super Aramith
Cue ball with red dot - Aramith Premier
Cue ball with blue dot - Aramith Premier
Cue ball – no logo Aramith Premier, Standard Aramith Premier
 
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