New Billiard Product On The Market

Roger Long

Roger Long

Sonoran Cue Creations
Silver Member
They say that "necessity is the mother of invention." Well, out of necessity, my partner and I came up with a new invention: it's called Cue Dockit. Now this little item won't make your aim any better, or your stroke any straighter, but it just might make your time spent in the pool room a little more hassle-free. You can check it out here, http://accessories.maestrosproshop.com/
 
So far I am liking it...can you please explain how it holds the weight of a cue case?

Also...there is no padding where the cues rest...leaves me concerned about dingers.

Lisa
 
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Good grief I was just thinking about the almost exact thing about two weeks ago.

A friend sells these purse holders for ladies and it got me thinking.

Even though they are kind of tacky I think I like the plastic cue holder things that you have to force your cue into. I dont like leaving my cue where it can be so simply knocked out of a holder without the clips or foam or something to hold it in.


Good thing I also thought of another holder idea that I like as well. Might make one within a couple weeks to see how it does. One need is to make sure that it works on a straight edge as well as a curved one.

Good luck with your sales Roger.
 
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Nice...Just Protect your idea! I know from experience...I invented Billiard FingerSlides.

I am dealing with someone in Europe that has copied my product. There are a lot of thieves out there...Beware!!

www.cuezctc.com
 
ridewiththewind said:
So far I am liking it...can you please explain how it holds the weight of a cue case?

Also...there is no padding where the cues rest...leaves me concerned about dingers.

Lisa
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I am no scientist and dont know the name but it basically holds or secures itself with its own weight.

The mass exerts a force straight down. You just need to figure out where to make the pressure point at the surface that the objext hangs below.

As a female I am surprised that you have not seen the purse holders. They work in the same fashion.
Look Here http://www.localhardwear.com/guide.aspx

Theres a graphic that shows the basics of how it works
 
This/that is a cool invention. In order to address the dings question, you could round off the 'cups' that hold the cue shaft (round in the vertical direction so there is no edge to ding the shaft with.)
 
javi2 said:
That looks pretty cool......how much weight will it hold?
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Good question, thanks for asking. The brass rod is 3/16" dia., so the max. weight is dictated by that, and by how much weight the table or shelf that the Cue Dockit is sitting on will hold.

Roger
 
frankncali said:
I am no scientist and dont know the name but it basically holds or secures itself with its own weight.

The mass exerts a force straight down. You just need to figure out where to make the pressure point at the surface that the objext hangs below.

As a female I am surprised that you have not seen the purse holders. They work in the same fashion.
Look Here http://www.localhardwear.com/guide.aspx

Theres a graphic that shows the basics of how it works
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Well, after many years of riding motorcycles, you learn to compact your needs...in other words, if it doesn't fit in your jacket pockets, you don't need it...LoL. I am not a big purse type person...I have one, but it is small, and usually carries my pool 'ditty' bag when I am carrying one cue and a case without pockets. Needless to say...I have only glanced at the purse holders, and I think it was while looking for something else.

I like the basic concept of this product, as it would allow me to hang my larger case or my jacket off of it during league play. My questions were purely out of curiosity and certainly not meant to be critical.

Lisa
 
ridewiththewind said:
So far I am liking it...can you please explain how it holds the weight of a cue case?

Also...there is no padding where the cues rest...leaves me concerned about dingers.

Lisa
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The cue case, purse, or other hanging item is suspended directly beneath the base of the Cue Dockit so that the force of the weight is directly downward. So the weight is actually supported by the table or shelf that the unit is resting on. The Dockit also has a rubber-backed base to keep it from sliding around.

As for the non-cushioned cue slots, we've considered lining those, but so far it hasn't seemed to be a big concern with too many people. The edges of the slots are well rounded and sanded, so dinging the shaft of a cue would require a pretty good hit. If this does prove to be an issue in the future, however, we will line the slots.

Thanks for checking it out, Lisa.

Roger
 
Roger Long said:
The cue case, purse, or other hanging item is suspended directly beneath the base of the Cue Dockit so that the force of the weight is directly downward. So the weight is actually supported by the table or shelf that the unit is resting on. The Dockit also has a rubber-backed base to keep it from sliding around.

As for the non-cushioned cue slots, we've considered lining those, but so far it hasn't seemed to be a big concern with too many people. The edges of the slots are well rounded and sanded, so dinging the shaft of a cue would require a pretty good hit. If this does prove to be an issue in the future, however, we will line the slots.

Thanks for checking it out, Lisa.

Roger
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Thanks Roger for explaining that for me...makes more sense to me now. I am a bit of a cue holder 'whore'...LoL...so am always looking for something new that works better than what is already out there. I may have to pick one up to check out. :smile:

Lisa
 
Roger Long said:
They say that "necessity is the mother of invention." Well, out of necessity, my partner and I came up with a new invention: it's called Cue Dockit. Now this little item won't make your aim any better, or your stroke any straighter, but it just might make your time spent in the pool room a little more hassle-free. You can check it out here, http://accessories.maestrosproshop.com/
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Very nice Roger! I was wondering if it had a slip resistant surface on the bottom of the item until I read your other post.
Thanks,

JoeyA
 
Roger Long said:
Good question, thanks for asking. The brass rod is 3/16" dia., so the max. weight is dictated by that, and by how much weight the table or shelf that the Cue Dockit is sitting on will hold.

Roger
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Seems like 3/16" would hold quite a bit. Looks small enough to fit into most case pockets.
Purse holders are just too small and weak for pool cue cases.

Nice job. I forwarded the link to some friends (about 50) and hopefully someone will give it a try.
 
hllwnmagic said:
Nice...Just Protect your idea! I know from experience...I invented Billiard FingerSlides.

I am dealing with someone in Europe that has copied my product. There are a lot of thieves out there...Beware!!

www.cuezctc.com
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I sincerely appreciate your concern, but we already thought about that and decided that if someone wants to copy our product, they're going to do so whether we have it patented, or not. I think all they would have to do to get around a patent is to make one little change in the design, and then call it by a different name. Besides, we didn't originate the idea: purse holders have been around for a while, cue holders have been around for a while, and all we did was combine the two.

BTW, I like your FingerSlides.:smile:

Roger
 
My wife invented the cuetip covers a few years ago when we bought our table ... made them out of leftover cloth.

LWW
 
Roger Long said:
I sincerely appreciate your concern, but we already thought about that and decided that if someone wants to copy our product, they're going to do so whether we have it patented, or not. I think all they would have to do to get around a patent is to make one little change in the design, and then call it by a different name. Besides, we didn't originate the idea: purse holders have been around for a while, cue holders have been around for a while, and all we did was combine the two.

BTW, I like your FingerSlides.:smile:

Roger
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Thanks Roger, About changing one thing and the Patent is useless...Well...All possible variables are covered in the scope of my patent. A good Patent Lawyer is an absolute must because everything needs to be covered. As for the slight name change...This is also a "no go" for the thief, as a good Lawyer would tell you. When confusion about "Name" of the product, from a customer arises....ahhhh....You have them Legally!!
Good Luck with this Great idea!! Have you ever thought about sponsoring the Mike Zuglan Joss Tour? This will get you product noticed in the "Pool Community".
 
I like the style of this so I ordered a couple. We'll dee how they go over at the pool hall.
 
Dockit

Why wouldn't you get these made with injection molded plastic type material. It could be made in different colors. It would increase the profit margin.

Problem - Using these on a table, most tables are too low for the cue case to hang properly beneath it.
 
Snapshot9 said:
Why wouldn't you get these made with injection molded plastic type material. It could be made in different colors. It would increase the profit margin.

Problem - Using these on a table, most tables are too low for the cue case to hang properly beneath it.
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Snapshot,

Thank you very much for the input, but there are several reasons we do not make these out of plastic: 1. It would be very expensive to have an injection mold built, 2. We love wood, 3. We aren't as concerned with increasing our profit margin as we are with supplying an American-made, hand-crafted product, built out of natural materials, 4. We can (and will) be offering these in different colors, although we personally believe we will be hiding the natural beauty of the wood when we do so.

As for using these on tables; the standard height for most pub tables ("high-stands"), bars, and shelves, is 42-inches which gives plenty of height for a cue case to hang without touching the floor. When the Cue Dockit is used on a seating table, a cue case will definitely hang at an angle because the bottom is resting on the floor, but it will still not be cluttering up the top of the table or lying on the floor where it can be kicked or stepped on. :smile:

Interesting note: I was doing cue repairs at a tournament this past weekend and some player screwed the shafts onto the butts of his cues while leaving them in his case, and then he leaned the whole rig up against a shelf right next to a cue case that was hanging from a Cue Dockit. It was almost as if he was defiantly showing everyone the cheap and easy way to go. Well, his cues and case didn't stay there for even ten minutes before his own buddy accidentally bumped it and sent the whole works crashing to the floor. :o

Roger
 
Roger Long said:
As for the non-cushioned cue slots, we've considered lining those,
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I think that would be a selling point, and Felt, or Stick Back Rubber Door Insulation could do the job.

Are you going to go the PVC/Plastic Injection Molding Route, as that would bring down the production cost/unit?
 
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