New joss cues opinions

Curly Howard said:
Danny Janes is a stand up guy, first class, and I frankly dont believe this BS story, sorry, gong.

He stands behind his cues, period, end of story. That is the problem with the net, and fourms, one guy can come on and make a totally unproven attack and do great damage to a cue maker. If they tried to answer every attack, they would get nothing done or made. Joss, has its reputation, they dont have to defend anything.

If the story stinks, and does not fly, then its a stinky fish.

You learn in time, on the net, not to believe everything you see posted.
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I've known Buckzapper for many years and if he says it happened, it did. I've never had a problem with Dan Janes and have spoken with him a couple of times since he made my custom for me in the mid or late '70s. I've only owned one production model, a sneaky pete that I bought from a friend before moving to SC. I bought a predator shaft for it but it was lousy playing so I sold the cue and both shafts. I don't care for the production models but I don't like Schons, either. I'd like to try a Joss with the wood to wood joint that I see they are making now but haven't had the chance.
 
poolplayer2093 said:
Wow!!!!! that's pretty bad man. i've known a lot of people with joss cues and never heard of a warp that bad happening. i'd figure he'd want to take care of that.

another thing i've always wondered is their shafts seem to come way too thick,imo. the thing is i can appreciate that they do it to let people customize it to their liking but who is supposed to do the work? and how are their cues going to hit with random people taking the shaft down in different manners. doesn't that mean the cues could hit way different from cue to cue?
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he will provide you with whatevever thickness and taper you want.

i mis-typed about the pic i posted, those are 12.375 mm shafts.
 
Miller said:
there is a reason why he is a hof builder.

i called mr. janes about building a semi-custom. i told him right off the bat that i was only looking for a relatively plain, four point player and pretty much knew what i wanted. he didn't care that i was not interested in breaking the bank, the man spent 45 minutes talking to me about the finer points of cue construction and materials.

i don't think that you can go wrong with a joss. quite frankly, i can't believe his layered tips haven't generated more attention.

this happy customer ended up with: ebony butt and points, real black lizard wrap, 13.375 mm shafts with 12" taper, ivory ferrules, and he even signed it.

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I love it! What design is on the joint collar?
 
Miller said:
he will provide you with whatevever thickness and taper you want.

i mis-typed about the pic i posted, those are 12.375 mm shafts.
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Yeah i noticed a lot of sites that offer them offer to take them down to what ever size you want. but they charge you like $35 to do it. why not just offer shafts that aren't bigger than 13mm?
 
Buckzapper said:
I do. It happened to me. 1994. The butt did jump up and down 1/2" at the joint. It was stored in my locker at the poolroom, not the trunk of a car. The dealer was from Baltimore and all he sold was Joss Cues. He said to contact Joss directly. I sold the cue for $300 and they were very much aware of the severe warp. The hit was still fine. As someone pasted the warranty, note is says "at our discretion." I told Danny James I would gladly badmouth his cues and I have and will continue to do that. I told him this face to face at Turningstone Casino at a Joss Tour event. I have talked many people out of buying a Joss since then.
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I will definitely look the other way and not buy Joss. Thank you for sharing your experiences.

I guess there is a reason why people want a Joss West rather than a Joss cue.
 
joss cues hit good....i would not buy one for over $350 though....personally i think his points in the forarms are too narrow at the base (no presence), i also dont mind inlayd points, but i do not like the way he does his..inlaying the sharp veneers with the rounded outer point, the miter at the point tip has a noticable gaps in it....

i hate the fact that Joss never uses ring work above and below the wrap....

his cues alot of times can have some flaws, but usually cosmetic and minor. i have one, its strait, hits good. but has flaws and should not have left
shop that way....Broken inlay, Saw dust under the clear coat

if you want a much better looking cue go Schon.

I emailed dan janes about how to identify a joss shaft 2 or 3 yrs ago,
and he told me that there were no real ways to tell.
I told him he should start scribing a logo on them,
because you never know if somebody bought some china made shaft with a black collar
and sold it with a joss butt as a Joss cue. that the shaft was 3/4ths of the hit of the cue,
and not long after they started puting out Joss logo shafts...so people would no that their shit is authentic .
True story
 
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ACA Hall of Fame...Nuff Said

The following cuemakers are currently members of the Hall of Fame: George Balabushka - February, 1993
Herman Rambow - October, 1993
Burton Spain - October, 1993
Ernie Gutierrez - July, 1994
Harvey Martin - March, 1995
Gus Szamboti - March, 1997
Frank Paradise - June, 1998
Eugene and Ilona Balner - July, 1999
Dan Janes - July, 2003
Jerry Franklin - March, 2005
Bill Schick - March, 2007
 
I purchased a Joss around 1990. Solid hit and a very nice cue. Since then I bought a couple of customs and sold it to a young guy I know at the hall about a year ago. At the time of sale I didn't realize he was a moron known for losing his temper when gambling (he couldn't play dead, much less a decent game of nine ball). Sure enough the idiot gets mad and breaks the cue. Wouldn't have sold him the cue had I known he was ate up with stupid. I really liked that cue.
 
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