New Lucasi already broke !!!

Maniac

Maniac

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I bought a new Lucasi (#LE-66) from Ozone Billiards last week to use in my Monday night 8-ball league. It is a great looking cue with a pretty decent hit. But this afternoon while shooting on the home table, the hit started feeling soft like the shaft was coming unscrewed. I kept trying to tighten the shaft, but that wasn't the problem:confused: . I wiggled the tip to see if it was loose, and the ferrule broke off in my hand about 1/4" from the tip:eek: . I guess they just don't make things like they used to. It was only the third time I've played with it and I only used it for shooting, not breaking. Anyway, I called Ozone and sent it back for replacement. I'm sure glad it didn't break during league play. My teammates would've never let me hear the end of it:o !!!

Maniac
 
They should have never let you hear the end of it for just owning one......
 
ive seen pictures of a broken lucasi that separated in the middle of the forearm. the points were decals:rolleyes:
 
Everything made has the chance to have defects in manufacturing. I had a shaft break on my new Black Boar after hitting about 10 balls, and no, I wasn't breaking or flexing it. Does that mean Black Boars are junk?......uhhh, if so, I'll take em all from you!:D

One of my playing cues is a Lucasi LE27. The fit and finish are great, it plays very well, and at $208 it's dollar for dollar the best cue I've ever purchased. I'm not sure why people like to slam Lucasi? I have owned more than 1 "custom" with worse quality control.

Gerry
 
Tap tap tap...

i own a Luccasi with a predetor 314 shaft and i have beat the breaks off of people with custom cues...i even had some ask to hit with my cue and say damn this thing hits better than my cutom..but to each his own.. I have a good friend who went to the Biliard Expo this year and was mopping up at the challenge table...and he shots really strong.. he came back and lauged, he said he heard some one in the crowd ..go "Damn that guy can shoot..he is ...wait is that a cuetec ,,,my god that guy is using a Cuetec and kicking the sh*&t out of people... your cue is only as good as your are
 
Don't know about that. But if he does, its made to a lot higher standard than their regular production cues and the shaft is most defiantly a higher standard.

Here is my complete thought. For the $200 your spent, you could have spent maybe a little less or maybe a little more and guaranteed yourself a great playing cue from a local cuemaker (or maybe one across the country with a good rep). Sure it might be a plain jane or a sneaky pete, but the quality would have been there.

Yes, there are custom cuemakers who turn out the dog cue now and then. If they have any standards, they will work with you to replace or repair. Do a little investigation into the cuemaker.

My point is with a cheap production cue (mind you I am NOT say all production cues) you are for sure starting out with a cue built to lower standards.

Why take the chance for the money? Your gonna invest time in the game, why not invest time in the choice of cues?


Edit to add: My apologies to Maniac for coming off so harsh. I ment the comment more in line as a joke and I failed in that respect. Again, my apologies to Maniac.
 
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I currently play with a Schon, but I've owned several Lucassi's in the past. I loved every one of them. Point in fact for a nice hitting cue that won't break the bank, I'd recomend them anytime. I think when they 1st started out, the veneers where in fact decals though.. I don't believe they are anymore.

BTW, I bought a nice Joss once that I played with for about 3 days.. I broke and the forearm literally came apart. It didn't "snap" persay like what you would think of if you hit something.. And to answer the next question, no I didn't hit the table with it by accident. (Never have and never will) I called Billiards and barstools about it, and they told me to call Joss, but didn't think I'd have any luck with it so I picked up what was left of that cue and threw it in the trash..

To prove what others have stated though, that with "wood" sometimes you can just get a bad one.. I bought my g/f a very nice Joss, and one of my playing cues is an old Joss sneaky (not sure why they call it that becuase it's not exactly sneaky.)

RD
 
For starters, as production cues go, you have to realize that what you are playing with is of a lesser quality than many of the custom cues that a lot of us talk about on these threads. HOWEVER, that being said, Lucasi cues are generally decent hitting cues. They are built well and they play well. For the player on a budget or the player just starting out with the game, they are decent cues.

That being said, all cue makers, both production and custom, from bottom of the barrell to top of the line, will likely have one bad cue out of a batch. You just happened to be the unlucky guy who got it. Still, there is an answer to this. If I'm not mistaken, Lucasi has a lifetime guarantee on all their cues. Several years ago when I was playing with one, I broke the butt section because I got mad and slammed it on the floor. I sent it back and they replaced it for free. So don't be discouraged. Its likely a freak occurrence and won't happen again.

And yes. Thorsten plays with a Lucasi as does Jeremy Jones.
 
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PlynSets said:
BTW, I bought a nice Joss once that I played with for about 3 days.. I broke and the forearm literally came apart. It didn't "snap" persay like what you would think of if you hit something.. And to answer the next question, no I didn't hit the table with it by accident. (Never have and never will) I called Billiards and barstools about it, and they told me to call Joss, but didn't think I'd have any luck with it so I picked up what was left of that cue and threw it in the trash..

RD
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I've had a Joss do the same thing, the grain was diagonal just below the joint, and it creaked for a while, then cracked in half.

I convinced the store I bought it from to give me the $$ back in exchange as I'd only had it for a week or two. Nothing beats a $400 piece of firewood...

-s
 
pharaoh68 said:
For starters, as production cues go, you have to realize that what you are playing with is of a lesser quality than many of the custom cues that a lot of us talk about on these threads. HOWEVER, that being said, Lucasi cues are generally decent hitting cues. They are built well and they play well. For the player on a budget or the player just starting out with the game, they are decent cues.

That being said, all cue makers, both production and custom, from bottom of the barrell to top of the line, will likely have one bad cue out of a batch. You just happened to be the unlucky guy who got it. Still, there is an answer to this. If I'm not mistaken, Lucasi has a lifetime guarantee on all their cues. Several years ago when I was playing with one, I broke the butt section because I got mad and slammed it on the floor. I sent it back and they replaced it for free. So don't be discouraged. Its likely a freak occurrence and won't happen again.

And yes. Thorsten plays with a Lucasi as does Jeremy Jones.
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As a guy that machines manually, and with CNC (for metal etc..) I'd like for you to explain to me how a "custom" cue is better then a production cue..

The only thing that might be possible is the custom cue makers are buying higher quality woods.. But even then you have to ask, just becuase the wood is more expensive, does that mean it's "better?" Or more rare?

I've owned a few custom ques, and I gotta tell you I'll put my Schon up (which is "production" by the standards set forth before on this board) against any one of them. Most the customs I owned I was less then impressed with to be honest.. I might end up buying a Pechauer (sp?) here pretty quick that I like..

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I'm not saying custom ques are bad, I'm just saying that just becuase it's "custom" doesn't mean it's good.

DJ
 
PlynSets said:
As a guy that machines manually, and with CNC (for metal etc..) I'd like for you to explain to me how a "custom" cue is better then a production cue..

The only thing that might be possible is the custom cue makers are buying higher quality woods.. But even then you have to ask, just becuase the wood is more expensive, does that mean it's "better?" Or more rare?

I've owned a few custom ques, and I gotta tell you I'll put my Schon up (which is "production" by the standards set forth before on this board) against any one of them. Most the customs I owned I was less then impressed with to be honest.. I might end up buying a Pechauer (sp?) here pretty quick that I like..

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I'm not saying custom ques are bad, I'm just saying that just becuase it's "custom" doesn't mean it's good.

DJ
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Hey DJ-
Maybe you should go back and read what I posted. I never said that all custom cues are better than all prduction cues. I would take a Joss production cue over 75% of the custom makers out there. In fact, there are a few custom cue makers whose product is so bad, I wouldn't even classify them as custom bue makers... just guys with a woodworking hobby.
If you want to to qualify or validate my statement, I will do so using specific examples. I personally find that cuemakers like Paul Mottey, Ernie Gutierrez, the people at South West, Tim Scruggs, James White, Dennis Searing, Pete Tascarella, john Showman, Barry Szamboti (I could go on) make FAR better cues than say, Players or Mali. You have superior craftsmanship in which an individual painstakingly slaved over a cue for months on end to get it to look and feel just right. The woods are of the best quality. The construction technique is taken into consideration by the cuemaker for optimal playability. Every aspect from balance to taper to building materials is taken into consideration. The result? A cue that (with the elite cuemakers anyway) looks as stunning as it plays.

Now, flip to some of the lower end production cues and what you get are cues that are churned out by the hundreds every day. The focus is on putting out massive amounts of the product at the cheapest cost to the company to maximize profits.

That's why many of the custom cues on the market are better than many of the production cues you see.
 
love my lucasi

i have the same model as gerry does and have had no problems with it.hits good and looks good.
 
pharaoh68 said:
Hey DJ-
I would take a Joss production cue over 75% of the custom makers out there. In fact, there are a few custom cue makers whose product is so bad, I wouldn't even classify them as custom bue makers... just guys with a woodworking hobby.
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You got that right buddy.
I will take my Joss over most cues and if I may be so bold, add Mike Webb, Joel Hercek, and Eric Crisp to your list of custom makers.
They are ALL topnotch.

Regards,
Koop
 
Ring said:
Don't know about that. But if he does, its made to a lot higher standard than their regular production cues and the shaft is most defiantly a higher standard.

My point is with a cheap production cue (mind you I am NOT say all production cues) you are for sure starting out with a cue built to lower standards.
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The first part, in reference to Thorsten playing with a Lucasi...yes he does, with a Universal Smart Shaft. To suggest that his personal cue is made to a higher standard than the rest of their cues is doubtful. He might have had his pick of the bunch, but I highly doubt they went through their production line and said "Well, this one is for Thorsten, so it better be damn good." What evidence is there to suggest that Thorsten's Lucasi is any better than any other?

I wouldn't call a Lucasi a cheap production cue. There are many other cheaper brands of production cues. People on this board, as well as lots of people I know, have Lucasi cues and like them.

I used to have one and thought it was pretty good. The reason I'm not using it now is because I am fickle and like to change things all the time. But there certainly wasn't anything wrong with it.
 
suckershot said:
The first part, in reference to Thorsten playing with a Lucasi...yes he does, with a Universal Smart Shaft. To suggest that his personal cue is made to a higher standard than the rest of their cues is doubtful. He might have had his pick of the bunch, but I highly doubt they went through their production line and said "Well, this one is for Thorsten, so it better be damn good." What evidence is there to suggest that Thorsten's Lucasi is any better than any other?
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Not to be to much of a smart ass, but what evidence do you have to suggest that he, as their player representative, didn't receive a cue that had some one in the factory pay special attention to his cue as it was being made?

I am sure Lucasi didn't want their cue falling apart on him at a tournament in front of a crowed, as has been evidenced by others stating that their productions cues fallen apart. Its only a wise business move.
 
Ring said:
Not to be to much of a smart ass, but what evidence do you have to suggest that he, as their player representative, didn't receive a cue that had some one in the factory pay special attention to his cue as it was being made?

I am sure Lucasi didn't want their cue falling apart on him at a tournament in front of a crowed, as has been evidenced by others stating that their productions cues fallen apart. Its only a wise business move.
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I don't have to have evidence of what I said since I did not make a statement as fact, as you did with your statement claiming that his cue is of a higher standard and that the shaft is definitely of a higher standard. I simply said it was doubtful. Your claim was unsubstantiated in the first place; have you held his cue in your hands, and can you say with absolute certainty that his cue and shaft have been built to higher standards (and can you qualify this statement)? I doubt it.

Every company and cuemaker has made a cue that has problems with it. There are no exceptions here. People have complained on this board about both productions and customs. There is no reason for anyone who makes cues to believe that any one cue they produce is to be better or worse than the rest.

And what exactly do you mean by his cue being of a higher "standard"? That is an ambiguous term.
 
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