New online videos from Dr. Dave and Tom Ross

[dr_dave]

keep it going

Great videos!

Thanks.

Keep it going!

Everytime I finish a batch like this, I usually think: never again! It's a bunch of work ... especially the editing, file creation, and web posting (YouTube and my website). However, usually after a few weeks, I'm excited to do more.

Regards,
Dave

 

[Bob Jewett]

... Coriolis masse shot aiming method with a large-curve example ...

I'm surprised that the Coriolis masse aiming technique is a surprise to so many. It was published in Bob Byrne's column in Billiards Digest in the 1980's and appears in the cover illustration of his "Advanced Technique" book which was published in 1990. That is one of the books that belongs in any pool student's library.

The technique is also described here: http://www.sfbilliards.com/articles/1997-12.pdf

 

[dr_dave]

reading is fun ... videos are funner

I'm surprised that the Coriolis masse aiming technique is a surprise to so many. It was published in Bob Byrne's column in Billiards Digest in the 1980's and appears in the cover illustration of his "Advanced Technique" book which was published in 1990. That is one of the books that belongs in any pool student's library.

The technique is also described here: http://www.sfbilliards.com/articles/1997-12.pdf

I agree. I also thought most people knew about this; but I guess not all people like reading magazine articles and books. Most people seem to like videos.

Regards,
Dave

PS: Thanks for the link. I've added it to my masse FAQ page.

 

[dr_dave]

What did you like, and what do you want to see?

Now that the audio is working, I was curious which clips most people found the most interesting or useful (or the least interesting or useful). Please let me know what you think?

Also, Bob Jewett and I are doing some video sessions this weekend. Is there anything you would like to see?

Thanks,
Dave

FYI, Tom Ross and I did a long video session last week. Here's all of our new stuff:

NV B.38 - After-collision masse example with a nearly straight-in shots, with Tom Ross

NV B.39 - After-collision masse example to avoid an obstacle ball, with Tom Ross

NV B.40 - Masse-draw billiard (carom) trick shot from the movie "The Hustler"

NV B.41 - Coriolis masse shot aiming method with a large-curve example

NV B.42 - Coriolis masse shot aiming method small-curve example

NV B.43 - Cue ball position control stun, roll, and draw reference lines

NV B.44 - Dr. Dave 30-degree-rule peace-sign hand calibration

NV B.45 - Cue ball path speed effects

NV B.46 - Cue ball path scratch avoid, cluster break-out, and billiard (carom) examples

NV B.47 - Draw shot off a rail requiring slower speed for position, with Tom Ross

NV B.48 - Frozen cue ball position control options

HSV B.36 - various miscues with double-hit rule interpretation

HSV B.37 - jump shot over-cut effect and examples

HSV B.38 - precision jump into a cluster of balls to avoid a foul

HSV B.39 - kiss-back shot with difficult secondary cushion contact​

FYI, all of my online instructional videos (NV and HSV) can be found here:

http://billiards.colostate.edu
​

I hope you enjoy the clips. I think this is our best batch so far. I look forward to your comments, questions, and suggestions for the future.

Regards,
Dave

 

[billyjack]

Thank you Dr. Dave, Bob and Tom. Every bit you publish moves me a little further up that never-ending learning curve. I especially liked the masse' articles and videos. Every time I re-watch one of my ESPN Legends broadcasts from the 80's, I usually see someone get out of a safety with a well executed masse'. Call me old school (cause I am!), but the game just looks better to me when it's played in two dimensions only. I gotta practice some of this and amaze my jumpin' buddies with an old-time safety escape. Thanks again.

Bill

 

[okinawa77]

I'd like to see...

Now that the audio is working, I was curious which clips most people found the most interesting or useful (or the least interesting or useful). Please let me know what you think?

Also, Bob Jewett and I are doing some video sessions this weekend. Is there anything you would like to see?

Thanks,
Dave

Hi Dave,

I'd like to see you and Bob show more examples of the 30 degree concept.

I am wondering if you have any feed back from players that duplicated the 30 degree concept shots in your videos.

BTW: The audio helped me to understand your 30 degree concept a little better.

I'd like to know if you are using center highball or inside highball. In the videos, it looks like inside highball.

Thanks in advance,
Mathew

 

[okinawa77]

Bar

The desired final cue ball direction determines the required contact point on the cloth. This aim point defines the cue elevation within a fairly small range. For a fixed aim point, elevation varies a little with tip offset, but not by much. Stroke speed is what requires the most judgment and intuition/feel. For more info, see my Novemebr '05 article.

Regards,
Dave

Thanks for the reply.

Since I have always performed masse by feel, it's a little hard for me to grasp the concepts. Your article does give me something to think about.

I am wondering how varying the B (CB contact point)...while maintaining the same RA will affect the curvature of the shot.

When I first performed masse shots, I had no problems getting to the OB, but the spin would throw the OB way off.

Nowadays, I try to have the CB come out of the masse spin and go into it's natural roll before contacting the OB. It's seems to increase my odds on pocketing the ball, and easier for me than trying to adjust the CB to OB contact point with spin transfer factored in.

I would like to see you and Bob show examples of how varying the B will or will not affect the masse shot.

-Mathew

 

[okinawa77]

Sorry, Dave...

But I have another request...

On the aiming adjustment for the jump/cut shots, could you explain the reason for the aim adjustment in a little more detail?

BTW: I really liked the high speed video of the extreme jump/cut shot.

Thanks again,
Mathew

 

[okinawa77]

While I'm at it....

2 or more rail shots with english:

There are plenty of examples of track lines for single rail kicks or banks using measured english. Some examples in Banking with the Beard...I loaned it out and never got it back.
I saw your 2 rail kick video, and I've seen Bob's diagram for C-O=F (CB rail# minus OB rail# equals First rail#), but this involves litte to no side english.

Is the 2nd or 3rd rail track line consistently predictable when using measured english?

I've noticed the ball reversing or coming out of the spin after contacting the 2nd rail, and it seems to make a big difference in the final destination of the ball.

I'd be interested in seeing some videos about it, and with Bob being a big fan of 3 cushion....I'm sure he can help a lot with this one.
I am curious about the use of "hold up" or "extra helping" english on 2+ rail shots, and predicting the path of the ball after contacting the 2nd or 3rd rail.

 

[dr_dave]

30-degree rule resources and examples

Hi Dave,

I'd like to see you and Bob show more examples of the 30 degree concept.

Check out the stuff here:

http://billiards.colostate.edu/threads/30_and_90_degree_rule.html​

I can't imagine anything else I can add. There are many examples in the articles and videos.

I am wondering if you have any feed back from players that duplicated the 30 degree concept shots in your videos.

I'm not sure what you mean here.

BTW: The audio helped me to understand your 30 degree concept a little better.

Check out some of the articles if you want a deeper understanding.

I'd like to know if you are using center highball or inside highball. In the videos, it looks like inside highball.

I think I aimed high-center on all of the 30-degree rule examples. English (sidespin) has almost no effect on the rule (see my May '05 article for more info).

Thanks in advance,
Mathew

You're welcome.

Regards,
Dave

 

[dr_dave]

masse elevation and speed effects

Thanks for the reply.

Since I have always performed masse by feel, it's a little hard for me to grasp the concepts. Your article does give me something to think about.

I am wondering how varying the B (CB contact point)...while maintaining the same RA will affect the curvature of the shot.

Varying "B" varies the cue elevation slightly. This affects the speed of the CB ... more elevation results in less speed ... less speed results in the CB curving sooner. For more info, see the second half of the article.

I would like to see you and Bob show examples of how varying the B will or will not affect the masse shot.

Thanks for the suggestion.

Regards,
Dave

 

[dr_dave]

jump shot overcut

On the aiming adjustment for the jump/cut shots, could you explain the reason for the aim adjustment in a little more detail?

Probably the best way to see this is with balls at the table. Hold the CB up against an OB, and visualize a aiming line for the CB which creates a cut angle. Now move the CB up along the OB while keeping the CB in the same aiming-line vertical plane. You will see how the cut angle changes.

Imagine if the CB lands on the back side of the OB vs. the front side. The cut is radically different.

BTW: I really liked the high speed video of the extreme jump/cut shot.

Me too; although, it took many "takes" to get that shot to work.

Regards,
Dave