I don't think they wanted to quit using dymondwood. I believe they had a fire and never started producing the size of material Diamond needed.
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I may be way wrong, my memory fades awful bad now. But I thought Dymondwood was the actual wood type that was impregnated with a high density plastic under pressure and heat. Not really a laminate. Anyway this could relate to the "size of material " that TrxR refers too.
Dymondwood was a laminate of thin plies of birch impregnated with resin. The different colors like cocobolo,etc were from the stains used. The factory in Vermont burned down back in '14 iirc. There is anothe co. that makes a similar product, https://webbwood.com/.
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That's roughly $8500 which is about what Diamond charges for a ProAm.
Burned to the ground. Game over.
That WebbWood link i posted is basically the same stuff as Dymondwood. I msg'd Diamond about them and if they've ever thought about using it. Haven't heard back yet. The phenolic WebbWood ain't cheap. An 18x26" piece is about 70bux.
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Correct. One would think that if making Dymondwood was profitable that the company would have rebuilt or someone else would have started producing it. I cant believe that there is a viable option out there and Diamond simply chooses not to use it. The Dymondwood tables seemed like they were virtually indestructible yet beautiful at the same time. I cant honestly say that the composite Diamonds are a nice looking table.
There's a lot to that Dymondwood deal. Supposedly an employee was embezzling funds among other strange goings on. The plant was a 100% loss. Rumors at the time was it may have been a torch job. Who knows. Look at that WebbWood link. Basically the same product.
Honestly, it a somewhat poor choice to put themselves in a situation where their output is based on a single supplier again.
I think the place that makes the PRC is a one supplier deal too. That WebbWood oufit seems to be way more well run than Rutland ever was.
Didnt know that there was shenanigans involved with the fire/business. At any rate its unfortunate that Diamond no longer makes a Dymondwood type table, they were gorgeous. I suppose I will have to find a used Cherry Dymondwood bar box when Im ready for a good little table.
It would be interesting to know how large WebbWood could make their material. The forms for the rails for the Diamond tables must be quite a bit larger than the 18x26" largest size listed on WebbWood's site. The Rosewood color on WW's site would work for me.
How long ago did you give Diamond this info?
Yesterday. I would imagine they could make it to D's specs.
If I remember correctly, the long delay before Dymalux could produce rails was because of recreating the forms.
Hopefully Diamond will respond to you. If they've done their due diligence, they should have already known about WebbWood. Hell, I even posted a link to WW on December 23rd of last year kicking around this subject.
What happened to Heath Manning? He used to post on these forums. He was/is a good conduit to Diamond.
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I didn't know about the shenanigans. I heard dymalux or whatever its called had q/c issues and would chip and it just wasn't the same. Dymondwood is some really strong stuff. I would pay for these rails if I could get them. I love the charcoal rails. I do believe the compound is stronger than my PRC rails. The dymondwood can really take a beating and the rails just feel super solid. Hopefully someone comes along that can make these rails again I am not familiar with webbwood.
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With you 100% on this. This is one thing diamond nailed. I love being able to shoot off the pockets zero risk in denting or stuffing up my cues. I hit my knuckle one time on a bally corner when breaking hurt like hell.