New production cues vs old
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Two companies come to mind.......maybe there are others? And of course, I might be mistaken.....this is just my opinion.
Joss Cues and Schon Cues........the older models seem to be superior to the more recent versions......naturally, most folks think of Schon.
Whether Bob Runde really did make cues any different from his successors at Schon is a matter of opinion.
Whether Dan Janes cues made 30 years ago play any differently than current versions is also a matter of opinion.
I submit that with both of the aforementioned cue-makers, there is a difference that's noticeable and worth mentioning.
Some may disagree with me so let's see how others feel & whether there's any other brand cues or cue-makers noted.
Matt B.
Joss Cues and Schon Cues........the older models seem to be superior to the more recent versions......naturally, most folks think of Schon.
Whether Bob Runde really did make cues any different from his successors at Schon is a matter of opinion.
Whether Dan Janes cues made 30 years ago play any differently than current versions is also a matter of opinion.
I submit that with both of the aforementioned cue-makers, there is a difference that's noticeable and worth mentioning.
Some may disagree with me so let's see how others feel & whether there's any other brand cues or cue-makers noted.
Matt B.
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I'll take a Mezz cue not only over any other production cue but several custom makers also
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and you're more than welcome to them...
Well thank you but I already have 2 , SP and power breaker 2 ,, SP plays as good as any of my 500 to 3500 dollar cues and I haven't even considerd another break cue
Thier Joints are second to none after all they cut thier teeth on cue components and thier are reknown for thier play ability ,,
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I think that in terms of manufacturing processes and technology the modern production cues are in general a better produced product than those made 10, 20, and 30+ years ago. The modern production is a more precision made product. When issues of playability come into the debate then we are dealing with the differences in assembly techniques that may have changed between then and now. And the differences in quality of shaft wood and construction can effect differences in play and feel from one era's cues to another.
I have always felt that what distinguished the quality feel one gets from an older made cue was that the original shaft and its interior wood fibers get used enough over time that the shaft becomes more responsive in the feel u get from the cue. I may be totally wrong on that issue scientifically, but its how I feel based on my own experience.
I have always felt that what distinguished the quality feel one gets from an older made cue was that the original shaft and its interior wood fibers get used enough over time that the shaft becomes more responsive in the feel u get from the cue. I may be totally wrong on that issue scientifically, but its how I feel based on my own experience.
I think the older cues are definitely better. I think the general craftsmanship was far better. I think the business even just 25 years ago were somehow more personal to the manufacturer, the pride in product was a greater factor. I think customer satisfaction was much more important. The advent of mass production of a piece of art has the the dollar much more important than any customer could ever hope to be.
I think back that far they were pretty much custom cue companies. They only real production companies 40 years ago were, Palmer, Viking, Meucci was pretty new. These American companies made pretty nice cues back then.
At the higher price point ($250/then - $500/now) there's probably not much difference.
But there's a big difference at the lower price point. Improved manufacturing techniques enable cuemakers to turn out a quality cue for less than $100 today. (I just bought a Schmelke as a back-up cue for $90 and it might become my regular cue).
Internet communication is another factor. If you turn out junk today, everyone will know it real fast.
Everyone likes to think that things were better in "the good old days." Not true, especially in manufacturing. During the 1970s inflation was so bad that everyone was doing crazy things to cut costs to keep their products at a reasonable cost. See Detroit carmakers.
But there's a big difference at the lower price point. Improved manufacturing techniques enable cuemakers to turn out a quality cue for less than $100 today. (I just bought a Schmelke as a back-up cue for $90 and it might become my regular cue).
Internet communication is another factor. If you turn out junk today, everyone will know it real fast.
Everyone likes to think that things were better in "the good old days." Not true, especially in manufacturing. During the 1970s inflation was so bad that everyone was doing crazy things to cut costs to keep their products at a reasonable cost. See Detroit carmakers.
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Since a lot of cues made today are cored the balance should. Be better. To me a stick is like a pair of shoes, what feels good to you, I might not like the way they feel. Also, I wouldn't buy a shooting cue without shooting a few balls. I talked to a violin maker, he told me he could make 2 fiddles using the wood from the same tree and one could sound good and the other not so good. That's when you have to have the experience to know what to do to the fiddle to make it sound good.
It's a wooden stick divided for convenience. The shafts behavior will have the greatest impact on the table. Maybe you'll have a preference of joint. Everything else is labor on making the stick look fancy. Don't get had by "woo-woo."
In your mind.
Dale(who thinks playability is not only highly subjective<can you say Moooochie> but also one word)
