I spend very little time on AZ now . Nothing of interest any more . Jim:thumbup:
NEW RULES IN THE Wanted/For Sale section???
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Actually there are a few billiard sale sections, they are the opposite of this one. To much bumping. I joined a few weeks ago and have yet to post anything.
BTW your referenced group is actually closed.... just to set the facts straight.
I am surprised there is not a Cue Collectors Discussion sub forum. It would actually be a good place to discuss cues.
JV
BTW your referenced group is actually closed.... just to set the facts straight.
I am surprised there is not a Cue Collectors Discussion sub forum. It would actually be a good place to discuss cues.
JV
The 'friends helping friends with nice cue, cue was mine and it plays jam up, what kind of tip is on it was BS.
I only came on a year and a half ago but it was so obvious to me and am sure to other respected member's that shill bumps were prevalent and unfair to those with any scruples.. I purchased a few and sold a few here and it was amazing how fast my cue wen't from the front to the back. Not a flipper just moving things around.
Allot of potential buyers as well as window shoppers scan the first few pages and do not go back to page 12. In a few hours your cue was buried due to all of the 'Friends helping friends' bumping within the 48 hour rule. Is that Cortland ? Is that Ivory ? to the top she goes.
PM's then phone calls are the proper way to go. I like many others always handled any of our questions, comments or remarks this way. Takes a few seconds. I believe the only members here that are not in favor of the new rule are the ones that miss the free rides and shills increasing the value of their cue..
Plenty of beautiful cues as well as conversation, things to learn in other places here than in the FS section. I love this place even though it probably has areas where they could improve.
-My 2c
Davekat
I only came on a year and a half ago but it was so obvious to me and am sure to other respected member's that shill bumps were prevalent and unfair to those with any scruples.. I purchased a few and sold a few here and it was amazing how fast my cue wen't from the front to the back. Not a flipper just moving things around.
Allot of potential buyers as well as window shoppers scan the first few pages and do not go back to page 12. In a few hours your cue was buried due to all of the 'Friends helping friends' bumping within the 48 hour rule. Is that Cortland ? Is that Ivory ? to the top she goes.
PM's then phone calls are the proper way to go. I like many others always handled any of our questions, comments or remarks this way. Takes a few seconds. I believe the only members here that are not in favor of the new rule are the ones that miss the free rides and shills increasing the value of their cue..
Plenty of beautiful cues as well as conversation, things to learn in other places here than in the FS section. I love this place even though it probably has areas where they could improve.
-My 2c
Davekat
Couldn't / shouldn't that be done in the Cue Gallery? Show them off, learn new things, etc...
I think there are valid complaints/reasoning from both sides.
I personally hated the excessive bumping but also enjoyed the knowledge that came from legitimately informative posts that actually added something.
I don't claim to have all the answers but I think my ideas bring together the best of both sides.
1. Cue flippers, cue sellers, dealers and cue makers should be afforded their own subsection to advertise independently from the For Sale Forum. IE - for 200 bucks a year you'll have your own subsection to post your items for sale, share your current work and post to your own gallery. This could be customized in many different ways. These "pay for" subforums have been successful on many other forums. Your own little retail/advert area.
In the For Sale forum -
2. Install a mod that allows posts but prohibits the posts from bumping the thread.
3. Install an autobump feature. Each thread will autobump every 72 hours for a limit of 90 days or until sold. Gold members and "pay for" subforum members will receive autobumps at every 48 hours.
4. If you wish to pay for your listing (a dollar or two a listing) it will autobump every 24 hours for a limit of 90 days or until sold.
5. Install a mod that allows the OP to change the thread to "SOLD".
These few changes will control the bumping without stifling the conversation. The subforums open up a stream of revenue and allow those who want to pay a place to showcase their work. I know I would pay for one.
I personally hated the excessive bumping but also enjoyed the knowledge that came from legitimately informative posts that actually added something.
I don't claim to have all the answers but I think my ideas bring together the best of both sides.
1. Cue flippers, cue sellers, dealers and cue makers should be afforded their own subsection to advertise independently from the For Sale Forum. IE - for 200 bucks a year you'll have your own subsection to post your items for sale, share your current work and post to your own gallery. This could be customized in many different ways. These "pay for" subforums have been successful on many other forums. Your own little retail/advert area.
In the For Sale forum -
2. Install a mod that allows posts but prohibits the posts from bumping the thread.
3. Install an autobump feature. Each thread will autobump every 72 hours for a limit of 90 days or until sold. Gold members and "pay for" subforum members will receive autobumps at every 48 hours.
4. If you wish to pay for your listing (a dollar or two a listing) it will autobump every 24 hours for a limit of 90 days or until sold.
5. Install a mod that allows the OP to change the thread to "SOLD".
These few changes will control the bumping without stifling the conversation. The subforums open up a stream of revenue and allow those who want to pay a place to showcase their work. I know I would pay for one.
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I have for the most part quit spending any time on the for sale section. Since it was the main reason I visited the site, I've quit spending much time here at all. I understand the reasons behind the change, but I don't like them at all. I never minded posts getting down on the list quick, or people bumping up their thread the next day. Just meant there was a lot of traffic, and never had a problem selling a cue here.
I also find it annoying when people won't use the pm system here, I prefer it over email. I know where to look to find past deals quickly with the pm's.
I also find it annoying when people won't use the pm system here, I prefer it over email. I know where to look to find past deals quickly with the pm's.
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It's not the same, and I don't spend nearly as much time as I used to..
It used to me a great place.
I believe mortuarymike-nv is onto something.. Pretty sad
I prefer email myself..
With all of the B.S. related to buying/selling/trading unfortunately you have to cover yourself.. Email allows me to save every conversation..
PM's have a limit, and it's a pain in the ass going back and forth from PM'S to the Forum..