New Shaft Technology

iusedtoberich said:
Pigcarver: Have you ever played with a Predator? If so, which one (314 or Z)? How does the McDermot shaft compare to the Predator as far as deflection and action on the cue ball?

Thanks.
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Hey. I've played with both of them. I've been much happier with the "feel" of the shaft. My biggest problem with both of the predator shafts is that I didn't have a certain type of responsiveness from the shaft. With the McDermott I get it.

As far as deflection goes, my test to see how much deflection I have to allowa for goes as this....Object ball against the rail 2 diamonds down from corner pocket, Cueball on the same side of the table, 2 diamonds up, one diamond over. (I hope I describe this right, this is all off the long rail). I hit the ball with extreme high left english with a speed to make the cueball travel 3-4 rails (playing shape back to where the cueball started). With my stroke, on a regular predator, I have to give about an 1/4 ball for deflection. With a z shaft, it's a little bit less, I would almost call it an 1/8 ball. With the Mc Dermott, it's fairly negligible (dare I say a 1/32 of a ball?). As far as action goes, the shaft has a fairly long taper (almost meucciesque if you will) so it moves the rock pretty good.

I've found so far (the last 2 days) that the shaft is pretty much built for my stroke (maybe it won't be so hot for you). I'm going to give it about 2 weeks, to see if it's just me being excited about having a new toy, and I am just hitting the balls really good (you know, all about the subconscious), or if the shaft is making a difference....we shall see.
 
drivermaker said:
What is the composition of the outer layer on the shaft. Is it wood...is it like wood...or is it that sticky crap that's on a Cue-Tec?
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It is wood. It appears (could be wrong) that they took a shaft dowel, and ran the carbon fiber insert through it... The shaft is not sticky at all.
 
drivermaker said:
The shaft that is used is an all wood shaft, the same as what is on all of their cues. What they do is bore it out and insert the carbon fiber etc. inside of the shaft. So it is NOT carbon fiber which is then rolled or coated with a lamination or faux coating of woodlike material on a Cue-Tec. The weight will vary depending on the different tip sizes and tapers as well as the joint type. The 11.75mm tip weighs the least, the 12.75mm tip is in the middle, and the 13mm tip is the same weight as their normal shaft without the new technology, which is a 3/8-10 pin. On a 5/16-14 joint, it comes out heavier due to a brass pin that's inside. :)
However, I think they still may be lighter if you're looking for an heavier shaft, and I can only guess in saying that they might not be over 4 oz. I could be wrong.
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My ice2 weighs in at 3.5oz....
 
Thanks for the info Pigcarver. I'm going to order myself the smallest diameter McDermot as I've gotten quite used to the Predator Z shaft's small diameter and cue action. I'll post in this thread when I get it to compare to yours and my Z and 314 shafts.
 
iusedtoberich said:
Thanks for the info Pigcarver. I'm going to order myself the smallest diameter McDermot as I've gotten quite used to the Predator Z shaft's small diameter and cue action. I'll post in this thread when I get it to compare to yours and my Z and 314 shafts.
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My biggest problem with the z shaft was getting used to the taper....the ice 2 has a much more traditional "pro taper" if you will, and it's been very comfortable...and I don't get that hollow blah feeling like I get with the 314...but, you be the judge, everybody is going to like a different feel.
 
Hello Pigcarver, Seems like you are the only one to play this new shaft, besides Blud. What is the ferrule material? Do you think the shaft would be any different with ivory or ivor-x ferrules? Would changing the ferrule void the warranty??
I also have 3/8x10 joints on all my cues and play with moori med tips. My 314 shaft has warped slightly and according to predator it is an acceptable amount.. The idea of no warping is very attractive indeed.
Dan
 
quedup said:
My 314 shaft has warped slightly and according to predator it is an acceptable amount.. The idea of no warping is very attractive indeed.
Dan
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How about the idea of "Lifetime Warranty"? Now that's strong!!
 
racer rx said:
Anyone know what the ferulle is like on the ICE2...?
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I would assume the ICE2 is like the ICE1. It's not a short ferrule like a Predator. It's longer than most playing cues but shorter than a Meucci ferrule by just a small bit.
 
blud said:
I know nothing about the Easton company.

McDermott however, has the carbine fiber blanks built to there spec's, from what I understand.

I didn't go into detail. { none of my affair }..

I do know they have hit a home run,[McDermott]...with this new shaft concept...

The shafts are clear maple, [ looks like a standard shaft], with a hole drilled down the center of it, with a the tube inserted inside of it..

Stay tuned, for big, "NEWS" coming from them and me, very soon.

blud
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Blud,

I agree with drivermaker...If you've seen it and like it, it must be on par...now is the big news that your going to be the 'Custom Cue' Maker in partnership with McD- for their new high end customs?...if so, YAHOO and what a score for McD-!
 
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Jersey,

Not exactly.
From what i understand, McDermott is taking over the "Bludworth" line.
And Blud is going to concentrate on the one-of-a-kind customs, training and his machinery.
 
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