I was wrong. The mid sized cuesmith is $1450, not $1500. And $1595 with the larger bore headstock. My apologies Mr. Hightower.
Joe
Joe
New Taig based Carriage and Headstock
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You are correct, i did have buyers remorse, but not because of the price of Chris's lathes. I didnt even see that special price until months after i bought my lathe from Bassel. My remorse was that sinking feeling you get when you realize you just got ripped off. And actually, i never asked for a new headstock, he offered it because he said those 1/2hp motors were junk, and he wasnt going to use them anymore. Its funny to me that you are here fighting for him to the end, yet when he screwed those people on the sanding mandrels you never said a word? Are you an investor? Exactly what do you have to gain by defending him and calling me names? If you just dont like me thats fine, but you havent even asked me what happened, so obviously you dont care about the other side of the story. In your mind, Bassel can do no wrong.
Joe
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case and point the products do not work, and after eric's post and about him using his customers to do product research and his field testing i cant understand how anyone disputes this stuff......
anymore when it comes to cue related products i think of the old phrase "when in dought, throw it out"
joe look at it like this you got hosed as a newb and paid 3X what you should for a sanding lathe lol
ive saved you plenty from advice to make up for the lathe now so the best thing to do is let it weed it self out just like geoff i warned everyone the mods deleted it and BAM look at his status now. it will work out in the end.
anymore when it comes to cue related products i think of the old phrase "when in dought, throw it out"
joe look at it like this you got hosed as a newb and paid 3X what you should for a sanding lathe lol
ive saved you plenty from advice to make up for the lathe now so the best thing to do is let it weed it self out just like geoff i warned everyone the mods deleted it and BAM look at his status now. it will work out in the end.
You are right Trent. I never intended on it going this far, i just want what i am owed. You have been a big help to me and i appreciate it. I cant just stand by and let people that have no idea who i am call me a liar and a hippicrite though. Especially when he has nothing at stake. I will take your advice and drop it though man. Ill talk to you soon.
Joe
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I see now why you are so upset. Because you helped make and design these parts, it offended you when i called them junk. Its becoming clearer now. Maybe you should just come out and say how involved with Bassel you are.
Joe
Joe
Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you be like him yourself. Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own eyes.
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DARN
:withstupid: geez i really was intresyed in your and bassels lathe
and especially an opinion on a renowned cuebuilder such as yourself:yikes::groucho:
so should he blame you for the stuff not working and send you the bill for refunds:rotflmao1::help:
well have fun defending your amazing product:lmao:
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I never said i was a cuemaker bud. If you are tryin to scare me, you better try harder slick. It will be a cold day in hell before you ever enter my world and do what i have done, so maybe you better watch what you say. If i feel like you are threatening me, we will have a problem. Its funny how i hit the nail on the head and you got all offended and started popping off. I dont give a damn who designed it, or who built it, the bottom line is that its junk, and i got ripped off. If you feel so strongly about it, why dont you just refund my money and you and Bassel can work it out between you two? And if you want my address, Bassel has it. Ill leave the door open for you.
Joe
is your ignore button broke???:yikes:
cue assembling...... right:thumbup:
i sure wish i could build PJ.s like you instead of half splices with inlays
This thread really has got off track.
I do not know the individuals with problems with Bassels equipment.
I have made a lathe up using parts from Bassel and other suppliers.
The various combinations from different sources all work fine for me.
I have one carriage from Bassel and another from Taig.They both work
on the Taig bed and the Brianna Steel dovetail.
I do not have any binding issues or problems with carriages.
Mine have the brass gibs .
I just do not see how people are having issues with the Taig stuff from Bassel.
I see that Bassel has now made a new style and design headstock and carriage assembly.
I have never had any problems dealing with Bassel and the parts he is selling.
I do not know the individuals with problems with Bassels equipment.
I have made a lathe up using parts from Bassel and other suppliers.
The various combinations from different sources all work fine for me.
I have one carriage from Bassel and another from Taig.They both work
on the Taig bed and the Brianna Steel dovetail.
I do not have any binding issues or problems with carriages.
Mine have the brass gibs .
I just do not see how people are having issues with the Taig stuff from Bassel.
I see that Bassel has now made a new style and design headstock and carriage assembly.
I have never had any problems dealing with Bassel and the parts he is selling.
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I bought an upgraded repair lathe about a year ago from Bassel and IT IS NOT JUNK. It's a well made and put together machine. Sure, any machine like this needs to be adjusted and maintained. And you MUST learn how to use it. This ain't my first rodeo, I've had experience with other cue repair lathes. In my real profession I work with machinery that requires more precision than any lathe can deliver. I KNOW precision!
I don't know why you are having problems because my Bassel lathe accurately does any repair job it is designed to do. But it did take some learning and experimenting on my part. Maybe you're right on some of the things you have posted, but I would have to see it to believe it. I don't mean any disrespect to you... I'm just giving my opinion.
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And it is time for everyone to understand that if someone is having problems with carriage on a lathe from Bassel they would potentially be having the problem with any Taig based lathe. It is not a piece of proprietary equipment.
I am completely uninvolved in this situation but damn this is getting ridiculous. A Taig carriage part #1260, is a Taig carriage part #1260 no matter who the middle man is. I tried to help by offering a solution in the last thread which still was never tried. What really is the problem here? A personality conflict between buyer and seller? A lack of patience dealing with the "problem" between the two? Who knows and frankly no one should really care anymore except them.
Charles and Neil, I also don't get what all this is about. I see it started with pics of a Chuck that Bassel did NOT provide. There is newer rust (looks like drops of water) which only takes a day or so to form. Cleans up with oil and Scotch Brite in 30 seconds. The older rust in the bore and the groves has been their for quite a while. I saw the pics and thought there is no way Bassel sold him that chuck as new, its obviously been well used and frankly doesn't seem to have been well taken care of.
Another thing I don't understand is "Filing down the Delrin"? I guess he's talking about the new Delrin Gibs. I just don't know why anyoine would take a file to a precision machined part? I am pretty damned good with my hands and I seriously doubt I'd do that. Done incorrectly and your carriage might have problems cutting a true face.
Not sure about the gear falling off. Guess I'll see when I get mine.
Bassel is pretty easy to get along with, he may even be a little too easy. From everything I've seen he makes good products and has a lot of happy customers. Yeah some of those Mandrels were bad but he owned up to it and as far I know everyone who asked for their money back, got it. I bet the next batch goes much smoother. I also see the comments on how great the Hightower lathe is. Don't get me wrong, I am NOT unhappy with my Deluxe Hightower and if I had it to do all over I would still buy it but it is not the epitomy of accuracy or rigidity. None of these small lathes are, nor are they advertised to be. I'm fairly sure I would not have been happy if I bought the Mid-Size. Its simple economics, the less you spend the less you get. It is not a design flaw nor someone "trying to get over on you" its simply just the way it is. You can only do so much with a given amount of cash. Drop the price range to $300 and see what you get on Ebay. Or better yet, go out and search the net for all the parts then start totalling them all up and don't forget shipping and any machining you'd need done like boring out those Taig Chucks to 1-3/8". I bet you'll find you got a fair deal even if everything isn't perfect. I spent over $3k and mine isn't perfect.
I dont care how good you are, if the motor malfunctions and doesnt work, then its junk. And like i said, my new carriage already has issues with the brass gear that moves it along the leadscrew, it fell off! It has nothing to do with ability on my end, it has to do with me paying good money for bad equipement. Im truly glad your lathe works good man, i just wish mine was the same.
Joe
Joe
you are truly a sad case, 3 days ago, you email me thanking me for the carraige and motor swap and you stated that its working great, and you took over yet again one of my threads, cause you think you deserve $80. I did the mistake once trying to make it right with you by sending you the new carriage, you clearly still dont know what you are doing, so you blam me for your poor lathe operating skills, i guess even if 50 customers post that they have my lathe and it works great, you would still argue otherwise. I strongly recommend you sell your lathe cause clearly you aren't handy enough to operate it properly or simply have some unrealistic expectations. you are too stubern to listen to anyone's advise or help, in the last thread, both Matt and John offered to help and you turned them down, you have created this image in your head that my lathe is junk and there is nothing anyone could do to change that. you figured I was stupid enough to send you a new carriage, so why not try to get more from me. you blame me for the rust on you headstock chuck, when all I did was only swap the motor and controller out. every one knows the truth and its all on you, I tried to help and went above and beyond to make it right, but that does not matter. The hardest part about my job is dealing with idiots like you, thankfully, you are one of a kind. I am done with this thread and with you, I have waisted enough time on you.
to John, Matt, Charlie, Neil, & Bryan
thank you for stating the obvious truth, which joe is too stuburn to admit.
like they say, you cant please everyone, some people are just impossible to deal with.
As for Trent
You are not in any position to comment on my lathe, you have never owned one, used one, or seen one, which makes your opinion pathetically biased towards Hightower machines only. It's funny when you needed some parts and didn't want to pay hightowers' prices, you came to me. But on an open forum you go back to being nothing but a Hightower brown noser. You are pathetic.
I have very high respect to Hightower and his machines, but I have absolutely no respect to guys like you and a handful of other AZ members that blindly and ignorantly post their biased opinions, without ever have seen or used my machines.
With everything else put aside for anyone to argue that my H-channel that I designed and produced is not 10 x better than the standard U-channel would be lying, that can be easily concluded just by looking at the 2 channels side by side.
I don't need to explain my self any more, I am sure everyone knows the truth and I will leave it at that.
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You just proved what a liar you are. I have every email, txt, and pm we have ever exchanged and nowher in any email did i say it worked great. You twist words around and make it seem like you are the victim, when in reality, you are only out to make a quick buck. I really dont understand how you can sit there and say its my inability which caused you to ship a lathe with a junk motor on it to me. Very funny. Then, you said in the other thread that you would reimburse me for the shipping. Another lie. Im sure those who got screwed by your sanding mandrels must have not know what they were doing too. You are right about one thing, some people are impossible to deal with, which you are proving with every keystroke. My case is sad, but your business is pathetic. I have recieved pm's from others on here who got screwed by you, but are sitting patiently hoping you will make it right. Well, i waited 6 months and i give up. I think everyone in the market should know how you operate. Good luck with your sales.
Joe