Nits Quiting Durrind a set and refuse to pay????

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Nits Quiting Durring a set and refuse to pay????

Last night at Sports Break in Greenwood SC I was playing doubles nine ball for $100 a set race to five. My partner and I won the first set and had the losers pay up at the end of the set. The second set was 4-3 with my partner shooting and we had a discrepancy about whether a hit was good or not. we could not come to a resolution so I said I would do a coin flip for the decision and if they thought there were any other shots that would be close we would agree to get an outside obseber to decide the shot. They won the second set and we settled up. The third set began with a dry break by my opponent and my partner was to shoot first. While he was examining the table the guy who just broke dry went to a nearby table discussing the shot we had flipped a coin for. I was pissed as we had left this behind last match but he was still rattled. He and the guy from the other table reset the shot while my partner watched and waited to shoot. The person he showed the shot to agreed that it was a good hit and this further rattled the guy. When my partner was finally able to shot he ran out and waited at the head of the table to break. Now we never talked while they were shooting or tried to shark they only defended our position after a coin flip and they would not let it die. If anything my partner was sharked waiting for them to reset that darn shot. They quit the set saying they were rattled and did not want to play any more. I offered for them to buyout for $30 bucks each and they refused to pay.

Who quits during the middle of a set and does not pay?????? One of them told me that he knows Stevie Moore and that Stevie had done this. He even tried to call Stevie to ask him about it. Now I do not know Stevie personally but this guy JR who said this has to be full of it. Every player in there agreed that you do not quit a set except for JR and Derrick.

Derrick then shouted about playing me some with no partners for a thousand. I agreed to play after they settled the $100 per man we were still owed from where they had quit. He came back and said he would play for five hundred. He could not raise the thousand. I asked for my money up front and he kept stalling so I left.

Now if you quit because you are rattled and refuse to pay a buyout and to pay what you lost how can you try to get another game with the same person you owe money to??????

Am I out of line in being upset?????

Sorry for the long post. I just had to vent my frustration.
 
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Slate Billiards said:
Last night at Sports Break in Greenwood SC I was playing doubles nine ball for $100 a set race to five. My partner and I won the first set and had the losers pay up at the end of the set. The second set was 4-3 with my partner shooting and we had a discrepancy about whether a hit was good or not. we could not come to a resolution so I said I would do a coin flip for the decision and if they thought there were any other shots that would be close we would agree to get an outside obseber to decide the shot. They won the second set and we settled up. The third set began with a dry break by my opponent and my partner was to shoot first. While he was examining the table the guy who just broke dry went to a nearby table discussing the shot we had flipped a coin for. I was pissed as we had left this behind last match but he was still rattled. He and the guy from the other table reset the shot while my partner watched and waited to shoot. The person he showed the shot to agreed that it was a good hit and this further rattled the guy. When my partner was finally able to shot he ran out and waited at the head of the table to break. Now we never talked while they were shooting or tried to shark they only defended our position after a coin flip and they would not let it die. If anything my partner was sharked waiting for them to reset that darn shot. They quit the set saying they were rattled and did not want to play any more. I offered for them to buyout for $30 bucks each and they refused to pay.

Who quits during the middle of a set and does not pay?????? One of them told me that he knows Stevie Moore and that Stevie had done this. He even tried to call Stevie to ask him about it. Now I do not know Stevie personally but this guy JR who said this has to be full of it. Every player in there agreed that you do not quit a set except for JR and Derrick.

Derrick then shouted about playing me some with no partners for a thousand. I agreed to play after they settled the $100 per man we were still owed from where they had quit. He came back and said he would play for five hundred. He could not raise the thousand. I asked for my money up front and he kept stalling so I left.

Now if you quit because you are rattled and refuse to pay a buyout and to pay what you lost how can you try to get another game with the same person you owe money to??????

Am I out of line in being upset?????

Sorry for the long post. I just had to vent my frustration.
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I never understand why people apologize for long posts. That is what the forum is for...discussion...lengthy or otherwise.

You are not at all out of line. I am always sadly reminded of the moves people try to pull to get over on their opponents, especially in pool.

Don't ever play those fools again.
 
Thanks,
I will not ever play them again. My brother played Derrick after all of this for 500 a set and lost the first set. He was not able to play any more as Derrick then Quit winner and left.

It would have been funny as heck if my brother had quit when Derrick was on the hill. But he has more class than to do something like that.
 
You should have played him and if you got a little behind you should have quit the set. Then lets see if it is ok to quit in the middle of a set from thier perspective...
 
I had a few people tell me to start playing him and then quit durring the set. I just could not do it. I had already shown my but as alocal buisness owner I had to let it roll off my back. Had this happened ten years ago I would have been put in jail for my actions. I am much older and calm than I was and this is my way of dealing with the situation.
 
Slate Billiards said:
Last night at Sports Break in Greenwood SC I was playing doubles nine ball for $100 a set race to five. My partner and I won the first set and had the losers pay up at the end of the set. The second set was 4-3 with my partner shooting and we had a discrepancy about whether a hit was good or not. we could not come to a resolution so I said I would do a coin flip for the decision and if they thought there were any other shots that would be close we would agree to get an outside obseber to decide the shot. They won the second set and we settled up. The third set began with a dry break by my opponent and my partner was to shoot first. While he was examining the table the guy who just broke dry went to a nearby table discussing the shot we had flipped a coin for. I was pissed as we had left this behind last match but he was still rattled. He and the guy from the other table reset the shot while my partner watched and waited to shoot. The person he showed the shot to agreed that it was a good hit and this further rattled the guy. When my partner was finally able to shot he ran out and waited at the head of the table to break. Now we never talked while they were shooting or tried to shark they only defended our position after a coin flip and they would not let it die. If anything my partner was sharked waiting for them to reset that darn shot. They quit the set saying they were rattled and did not want to play any more. I offered for them to buyout for $30 bucks each and they refused to pay.

Who quits during the middle of a set and does not pay?????? One of them told me that he knows Stevie Moore and that Stevie had done this. He even tried to call Stevie to ask him about it. Now I do not know Stevie personally but this guy JR who said this has to be full of it. Every player in there agreed that you do not quit a set except for JR and Derrick.

Derrick then shouted about playing me some with no partners for a thousand. I agreed to play after they settled the $100 per man we were still owed from where they had quit. He came back and said he would play for five hundred. He could not raise the thousand. I asked for my money up front and he kept stalling so I left.

Now if you quit because you are rattled and refuse to pay a buyout and to pay what you lost how can you try to get another game with the same person you owe money to??????

Am I out of line in being upset?????

Sorry for the long post. I just had to vent my frustration.
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Devil's advocate

Shouldn't the call go to the shooter?

you are very vague concerning the root of this argument.

It kinda sounds like you agree that your opponent got a bad call? If you were arguing against what you knew to be a good/bad hit, then Im on his side no matter what else occurred. There was only one shot taken in the 'set' they quit right?
 
I was vague about the shot because we agreed to a coin flip to put the shot behind us. I know that my partner made a good hit but we were at a standoff on the issue. My guy was shooting so if it were to go to the shooter as you said than we would have easily won the game and been hill/hill. I do not think that they got a bad call and I believe that I tried my best to come up with a good comprimise. we were the ones that got the bad call / coin flip.

The set that they quit was the next set after Derrick broke dry and imediately went to another table to talk about the disagreement that we had durring the previous set that they won.

My partner followed derricks break and ran out. Derrick then quit durring the set saying he did not want to play anymore. So no there was more than one one shot taken when he quit. We were up one-0 in a race to five. It was our break and he quit.

The person Derrick asked about the shot set the shot up by Derrick and JR and he shot it and agreed That my partner made a good hit. Like I said this was over and I had already argeed to a coin flip so this was just him continuing to rant about a shot that was from the previous set that they won????????
 
Slate Billiards said:
I was vague about the shot because we agreed to a coin flip to put the shot behind us. I know that my partner made a good hit but we were at a standoff on the issue. My guy was shooting so if it were to go to the shooter as you said than we would have easily won the game and been hill/hill. I do not think that they got a bad call and I believe that I tried my best to come up with a good comprimise. we were the ones that got the bad call / coin flip.

The set that they quit was the next set after Derrick broke dry and imediately went to another table to talk about the disagreement that we had durring the previous set that they won.

My partner followed derricks break and ran out. Derrick then quit durring the set saying he did not want to play anymore. So no there was more than one one shot taken when he quit. We were up one-0 in a race to five. It was our break and he quit.

The person Derrick asked about the shot set the shot up by Derrick and JR and he shot it and agreed That my partner made a good hit. Like I said this was over and I had already argeed to a coin flip so this was just him continuing to rant about a shot that was from the previous set that they won????????
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Ok Im 100% with you. Some of the key facts I was confused on are now clear! Lots of jerks in the pool room-just dont make the same mistake twice!
 
you didn't handle it very well

Are you out of line being upset? Yeah, I'd say you are out of line being upset to this level. It really wasn't a big deal that they quit one game into a third set.

Not clear if y'all were playing fifty dollars a head or a hundred a head but either way that meets expenses and makes a little cash. You get pissed, they get pissed, you cut yourself off from some action. Seems everybody across the country is whining about a lack of action and you have so much that you can get in a hissy over one game into a set and blow off some OK action.

It doesn't sound like the guys were scamming so I would have simply let them take down their money and told them another time. I often took a lot of money off of the same person, a bit at a time over years. Almost nothing makes me get mad at a paycheck.

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Slate Billiards said:
Last night at Sports Break in Greenwood SC I was playing doubles nine ball for $100 a set race to five. My partner and I won the first set and had the losers pay up at the end of the set. The second set was 4-3 with my partner shooting and we had a discrepancy about whether a hit was good or not. we could not come to a resolution so I said I would do a coin flip for the decision and if they thought there were any other shots that would be close we would agree to get an outside obseber to decide the shot. They won the second set and we settled up. The third set began with a dry break by my opponent and my partner was to shoot first. While he was examining the table the guy who just broke dry went to a nearby table discussing the shot we had flipped a coin for. I was pissed as we had left this behind last match but he was still rattled. He and the guy from the other table reset the shot while my partner watched and waited to shoot. The person he showed the shot to agreed that it was a good hit and this further rattled the guy. When my partner was finally able to shot he ran out and waited at the head of the table to break. Now we never talked while they were shooting or tried to shark they only defended our position after a coin flip and they would not let it die. If anything my partner was sharked waiting for them to reset that darn shot. They quit the set saying they were rattled and did not want to play any more. I offered for them to buyout for $30 bucks each and they refused to pay.

Who quits during the middle of a set and does not pay?????? One of them told me that he knows Stevie Moore and that Stevie had done this. He even tried to call Stevie to ask him about it. Now I do not know Stevie personally but this guy JR who said this has to be full of it. Every player in there agreed that you do not quit a set except for JR and Derrick.

Derrick then shouted about playing me some with no partners for a thousand. I agreed to play after they settled the $100 per man we were still owed from where they had quit. He came back and said he would play for five hundred. He could not raise the thousand. I asked for my money up front and he kept stalling so I left.

Now if you quit because you are rattled and refuse to pay a buyout and to pay what you lost how can you try to get another game with the same person you owe money to??????

Am I out of line in being upset?????

Sorry for the long post. I just had to vent my frustration.
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alstl said:
Post the money ahead of time.
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I have said this over and over, and this nonsense would never happen.

Sometimes people need to touch the stove and get burned to believe that the fire is really hot.

The fool is the one who didnt insist on posting.

UGH!

Ken
 
tigerseye said:
You should have played him and if you got a little behind you should have quit the set. Then lets see if it is ok to quit in the middle of a set from thier perspective...
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My friend did that to a guy at my school he did not like and they almost got in a fight. The guy owed my friend money from gambling and I guess they were playing for it and my friend lost on purpose and gave him the finger.
 
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