Nitty or not?

laserbrn said:
Back in 1991 wasn't the USPPA big? I remember people always talking about their "speed" back in the day. It was understood that if you are over 100 you're not to be played with (not by me...). I personally LOVED USPPA tournaments and found that handicapping system to be the best, but haven't seen it in use in a long time.
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Guess it is where you hang out at , 89 or 90 was the first i heard of league pool , a poker playing buddies wife played in a league , he told me i should check it out . I played at a couple of Clicks pool rooms and CJ's in Dallas and occasionally a bar. They had about 14 7 foot bar tables there and i never saw a league pool game in there and i was there about 4 nights a week for a year or so .


Maybe league pool was bigger in some parts of the country than others .
 
Oh no, USPPA then was just about tournaments. I don't recall much popularity in league play back in the day. I just remember everyone talking about their "speed" when setting up games and it was generally a reference to their USPPA handicap used while playing in tourneys.
 
I guess $10 or $20 is serious business to some people. If its that big a deal, say "only loser quits" up front.

I think most of the real gamblers would probably consider the $20 seed money anyways.
 
Woof Biscuit said:
Yesterday I walked into the pool hall around 2:00 (just when it opens). There was only one other guy in the room that was playing. I went in to play the ghost some during off hours when it is usually pretty peaceful. I start to take my cues out of the case and put them together when the guy asks me if I want to play some. I say, "sure, I will play. Did you want to play for fun or bet something?" I know the guy plays really well and will be almost like playing the ghost (which I have a shot at if I'm playing well). He says we can play $10 a game. I say OK. We play about 8 games and it's an absolute runout contest. He is up 3 games and I put down a 2 pack to pull within one. At that point, he says, my back is starting to hurt and I can only play one more game. We had only been playing for about 45 minutes and for some reason that really pissed me off. So I can break even or lose $20. I played the next game. I broke dry and he ran out. I paid off and that was that.

I have a really hard time quitting when I'm ahead after a short period of time. If it's been a long session, that's one thing. I guess he gave me a shot to get even but I'm not sure if I will play him again. Am I out of line here? I really want honest opinions and I am listening. It just didn't seem right to me. Maybe, that's because I was really enjoying the competition and didn't want to quit, but I don't know?
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This is kinda par for the course nowadays. So you can't be surprised or pissed when it happens. I used to play a guy who would only play for $10 a game 1pocket. He'd always get three or four games up on me right out of the gate and as soon as I won one would unscrew and say, "I have to go catch my bus."

Hated it, but couldn't show it.

Lou Figueroa
 
lfigueroa said:
This is kinda par for the course nowadays. So you can't be surprised or pissed when it happens. I used to play a guy who would only play for $10 a game 1pocket. He'd always get three or four games up on me right out of the gate and as soon as I won one would unscrew and say, "I have to go catch my bus."

Hated it, but couldn't show it.

Lou Figueroa
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See...THAT's a guy you don't want to play with. But that lesson comes quickly. I think if it happens once, it's not a big deal.
 
There's one factor that I haven't considered. There ARE people whose back starts to hurt when they've sat in the electric chair for more than a rack or two. :D
 
laserbrn said:
See...THAT's a guy you don't want to play with. But that lesson comes quickly. I think if it happens once, it's not a big deal.
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Well, funny thing is I didn't play him for quite a while, but do now.

I've gotten quite a bit better in the interim, so those three or four games... doesn't happen anymore :-)

Lou Figueroa
 
Bigtruck said:
If he took the $20 he's a nit. If he said, " we'll play again sometime and I'll start off up $20" His excuse was valid.

My guess is he thought he was stealing and had no money. When it became apparent he was in a tougher game than he thought, he made up a quick excuse and bailed.

Ray[/QUO

LMAO,,,, it's only $20!! maybe the guy has back problems.
i had a gut wuit me Houston fearing his tires freezing to the ground. I could understand though it was nearing 75 degrees out side.
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This is exactly why

I usually don't play by the game (except on a challenge table sometimes), I usually only play race sets, and have a 1 hour or 2 set notification before quiting.
 
wow, I don't care if his back hurts, his dog just died, or the President of the United States is calling him.....he wants to quit, so be it. I'm a BIG boy, I knew at the beginning that I might walk out lighter in the wallet than when I started. Why is it that I have to decide just how much lighter that is? Besides, if the bad back is true, why would I want to get back to even on someone who is in agony?? Maybe I'll try to the next time I see him, maybe he won't want to....WHO CARES. Unless this is your sole or primary source of income, it's just a friendly wager....chalk up the loss, and win next time.....
 
How bout:

My back hurts but instead of just quitting lets play one more game of $20 if i win and "0" if i lose? I still say nitty if he takes the 20.

Ray
 
Bigtruck said:
How bout:

My back hurts but instead of just quitting lets play one more game of $20 if i win and "0" if i lose? I still say nitty if he takes the 20.

Ray
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but, that is totally on him Ray....if most see it as nitty, and he doesn't mind being seen that way, I don't care if he is either.

I've seen some REALLY crappy ways that guys have quit winner; this just doesn't seem to be one of them.
 
laserbrn said:
Really? To me if I'm playing with a guy for $10/game, we're just playing for fun. If he wants to quit after 45 min. I'm perfectly okay with that.

I hate that everyone feels that I need to give everyone a chance to get back to even. What the hell is that anyway? If we play 10 racks and you're down and I don't feel like playing anymore why should I have to? We didn't specify how many racks we were going to play in the beginning.

If a guy wants to quit while he's ahead it really doesn't bother me at all. Especially if we're talking about $10 games. So you are upset because you lost $20 or what? What did you want the outcome to be? You play for hours and hours on end just because he wanted to play a few games?

I'm not a marathon player and I don't feel obligated to play until the losing party is satisfied.
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I haven't read the entire thread so I am posting blind here (something I rarely do). Here is my opinion on the matter because it is a subject I feel strong about. Woof was approached to play a game. Obviously the nit felt like he had way the better of it or he would not have quit after 45 minutes. It is not about letting a loser chase their money all night because I'm not about that either. BUT when I approach a guy for a game and only have a limited time to play I tell him upfront. But I don't ask for a game and make the announcement that it's do or die from here because I'm quiting after next game....that's just a shitty way to do someone.

Their used to be a guy like that here. He would ask to play then maybe win the first few games and then quit. I put up with that a few times then I quit him. I made him put up at least $20 playing $5/game and play until it was gone. I hate for someone to just quit without any warning.


Gary
 
Woof Biscuit said:
Laser, I certainly see your point. I guess I shouldn't have broke dry. For the record, it is not about the money, that's for sure. It's the principle of winning or losing to me. It just stung. Maybe I'm a sore loser? Having said that, I never let him or anyone else think that I was pissed. I shook his hand and said something to the effect of, "Wow! That was a shoot out. Nice playing.".

I think the moral of the story may be, to get all of that out in the open before the first break.
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when he said one more,you should have said i am done now.let him have the ten and not give him the shot at twenty.catch you later and thanks,then walked off.manage him different the next time.

bill
 
You got action--be happy. Ask him next time to play same as before. His answer will tell you everything you need to know. Consider it a compliment if he doesnt want to play you anymore. If he does the same move with you another time thats just the type of player he is. Just sounds like the type of player you can win a bet or two, probably nothing more. Its still gambling, you just have to get ahead because that person will never loose money once they get up on you.
 
trustyrusty said:
wow, I don't care if his back hurts, his dog just died, or the President of the United States is calling him.....he wants to quit, so be it. I'm a BIG boy, I knew at the beginning that I might walk out lighter in the wallet than when I started. Why is it that I have to decide just how much lighter that is? Besides, if the bad back is true, why would I want to get back to even on someone who is in agony?? Maybe I'll try to the next time I see him, maybe he won't want to....WHO CARES. Unless this is your sole or primary source of income, it's just a friendly wager....chalk up the loss, and win next time.....
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I kinda learned the same lesson from playing several of the Chicago players. Occasionally they'd come down to St. Louis and here we usually play sets. You'd ask them to race to 4 for two or three and they'd just look at you in disbelief and say, "I ain't signin' no contract." So you get used to it.

One time Mean Charlie Green came down and, on my home track, blew my doors off the first four games at $50 with these incredible up and down two railers. I cut that off and win three in a row.

He says, "You run too many balls and quits." It is the way of the world.

Lou Figueroa
 
How do you get his back pain out in the open or an emergency out in the open, it just happens.

Woof Biscuit said:
Laser, I certainly see your point. I guess I shouldn't have broke dry. For the record, it is not about the money, that's for sure. It's the principle of winning or losing to me. It just stung. Maybe I'm a sore loser? Having said that, I never let him or anyone else think that I was pissed. I shook his hand and said something to the effect of, "Wow! That was a shoot out. Nice playing.".

I think the moral of the story may be, to get all of that out in the open before the first break.
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